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I never play this album. I don't even have a copy in my collection. It's a great single, UCOTN. Too bad it's on this totally meh album. Even Dirty Work is better.
Totally agree with this statement.
If you don't think tracks like Undercover, She Was Hot, Tie You Up, Too Much Blood, Pretty Beat Up, Too Tough and All The Way Down aren't good Stones tracks then you should listen to different bands. The Stones is not the band for you.
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One of my least favorite Stones albums. I Love She Was Hot, All the Way Down and Too Tough, but the title track, Feel on Baby and Too Much Blood are not my cup of tea.
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One of my least favorite Stones albums. I Love She Was Hot, All the Way Down and Too Tough, but the title track, Feel on Baby and Too Much Blood are not my cup of tea.
That's too bad...I get that Feel on Baby & Too Much Blood are a bit divisive.
Undercover of the Night, for me, is just a beautiful example of the Stones going in a direction they really haven't been, absolutely slaying it, and never really going back to it. I find that a pity.
Sort of like the handful of amazing psychedelic cuts they did in 1967, She's A Rainbow, Child Of The Moon, 2000 Light Years, We Love You...a style that they never again re-explored. Maybe Moonlight Mile would be the closest.
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If it isn´t Thief In The Night - then it is All The Way Down and Pretty Beat Up? What is it with people - always half baked two-chord songs on top of their lists...Cringe... But I really like Undercover, have lots of sweet teen memories from that period...
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I never play this album. I don't even have a copy in my collection. It's a great single, UCOTN. Too bad it's on this totally meh album. Even Dirty Work is better.
Totally agree with this statement.
If you don't think tracks like Undercover, She Was Hot, Tie You Up, Too Much Blood, Pretty Beat Up, Too Tough and All The Way Down aren't good Stones tracks then you should listen to different bands. The Stones is not the band for you.
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I never play this album. I don't even have a copy in my collection. It's a great single, UCOTN. Too bad it's on this totally meh album. Even Dirty Work is better.
Totally agree with this statement.
If you don't think tracks like Undercover, She Was Hot, Tie You Up, Too Much Blood, Pretty Beat Up, Too Tough and All The Way Down aren't good Stones tracks then you should listen to different bands. The Stones is not the band for you.
Mathijs
My stickers remain intact! A dude on my floor removed his so I got to see what it looked like underneath.Quote
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Am I the only one who spent hours trying to remove THE sticker without tearing the cover?
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I never play this album. I don't even have a copy in my collection. It's a great single, UCOTN. Too bad it's on this totally meh album. Even Dirty Work is better.
Totally agree with this statement.
If you don't think tracks like Undercover, She Was Hot, Tie You Up, Too Much Blood, Pretty Beat Up, Too Tough and All The Way Down aren't good Stones tracks then you should listen to different bands. The Stones is not the band for you.
Mathijs
Oh, you're going to tell me I'm not a Stones fan because I don't care for one particular album, which is the nadir of their recording career? Even the first three Post-Wyman albums are better, and I never listen to them either. (Except for the singles). I've only been a fan since 1964. I've listened to every album and single since. (I've even re-evaluated Her Satanic Majesties' Request recently. It's not a great psychedelic album, but it is a great experimental LP.) I only like a couple cuts on Dirty Work too. Tell me I'm not a Stones fan because I don't swallow that piece of drek in one bite.
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Am I the only one who spent hours trying to remove THE sticker without tearing the cover?
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As for the album, a nice one, the only track I have never loved is Too Much Blood. The beat & horns give it sort of a spanish party song vibe. Fingerprint File is more my cup of tea!
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The production always was a bit dated, but for the last couple of years it has aged quite well. The production of Hackney Diamonds is closer to Undercover than anything else.
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The production always was a bit dated, but for the last couple of years it has aged quite well. The production of Hackney Diamonds is closer to Undercover than anything else.
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I find this an interesting claim. But with respect, I need to disagree to an extent.
As far as production goes, I think UNDERCOVER is not very cohesive album: some of it very contemporary, the Stones most radically using the sounds of the day - "Undercover Of The Night", "Too Much Blood" and to an extent "Feel On Baby" - but the rest of - the bulk of it, that is - is pretty traditional Pathe Marconi stuff, the Stones actually sounding dated even back then in 1983. Some of it even half-arsed produced (the very retro-sounding "Must Be Hell"). I never bought the idea that the Stones actually were that experimental or re-inventive in that album. They pretty much continue from they had left in EMOTIONAL RESCUE, just adding some contemporary touches there into a couple of tunes. Like adding make-up (especially the title track). True that there were some interesting new ideas deriving from some of those Pathe Marconi-era loose jams, but not that much differing from they had already done in SOME GIRLS or EMOTIONAL RESCUE (with better and more fresh results I think) And true that there is a certain charm in all those tieyouups, allthewaydowns and prettybeatups, since the Stones would never sound so loose, dirty and sexy again (that is a retrospective insight: all that sounded obvious still back then, and it needed a few albums to really recognize its unique value - that the band and that sound was gone).
But I think in the big picture the Stones lost the touch to the contemporary music scene with that album after having enjoyed a sort of new relevance since SOME GIRLS (the one they managed to keep up with EMOTIONAL RESCUE and TATTOO YOU). They probably should have been more radical in reinventing their sound order to keep up with the times (probably using more the style of "Undercover of The Night" and "Too Much Blood"). The times they were really a-changin' rapidly at the time...
I think the contrast or assumed novelty factor is due to differing a lot from a shamelessly retro-sounding TATTOO YOU. Hell, even the idea of the flip side is like an opposite: instead of having full of slow numbers, it is full of rockers. But I think UNDERCOVER altogether is more like an end of an era type of album than that of them coming up with something novel. A kind of IT'S ONLY ROCK'N'ROLL of the 80's.
Anyway, if the production of HACKNEY DIAMONDS is compared to the past, I think it resembles more STEEL WHEELS (like I tried to argue in its thread), since that album is more cohesive in its attempt to sound contemporary than UNDERCOVER.
But hey, 40 years... Damn I still recall going to buy my first brandnew Stones studio album at its release day (after being hooked by TATTOO YOU two years earlier). And, of course, due to that fact alone, UNDERCOVER has a special place in my heart. Memories...
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I never play this album. I don't even have a copy in my collection. It's a great single, UCOTN. Too bad it's on this totally meh album. Even Dirty Work is better.
Totally agree with this statement.
If you don't think tracks like Undercover, She Was Hot, Tie You Up, Too Much Blood, Pretty Beat Up, Too Tough and All The Way Down aren't good Stones tracks then you should listen to different bands. The Stones is not the band for you.
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Oh, you're going to tell me I'm not a Stones fan because I don't care for one particular album, which is the nadir of their recording career? Even the first three Post-Wyman albums are better, and I never listen to them either. (Except for the singles). I've only been a fan since 1964. I've listened to every album and single since. (I've even re-evaluated Her Satanic Majesties' Request recently. It's not a great psychedelic album, but it is a great experimental LP.) I only like a couple cuts on Dirty Work too. Tell me I'm not a Stones fan because I don't swallow that piece of drek in one bite.
While I disagree with a lot of what your saying about Undercover, I would allow that not liking that album could still leave you eligible with fan status.
Sadly, that status has been revoked because ALL true fans know it's "Their", not "Her". COME ON TWENTY FOUR FPS!
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I never play this album. I don't even have a copy in my collection. It's a great single, UCOTN. Too bad it's on this totally meh album. Even Dirty Work is better.
Totally agree with this statement.
If you don't think tracks like Undercover, She Was Hot, Tie You Up, Too Much Blood, Pretty Beat Up, Too Tough and All The Way Down aren't good Stones tracks then you should listen to different bands. The Stones is not the band for you.
Mathijs
Oh, you're going to tell me I'm not a Stones fan because I don't care for one particular album, which is the nadir of their recording career? Even the first three Post-Wyman albums are better, and I never listen to them either. (Except for the singles). I've only been a fan since 1964. I've listened to every album and single since. (I've even re-evaluated Her Satanic Majesties' Request recently. It's not a great psychedelic album, but it is a great experimental LP.) I only like a couple cuts on Dirty Work too. Tell me I'm not a Stones fan because I don't swallow that piece of drek in one bite.
While I disagree with a lot of what your saying about Undercover, I would allow that not liking that album could still leave you eligible with fan status.
Sadly, that status has been revoked because ALL true fans know it's "Their", not "Her". COME ON TWENTY FOUR FPS!
You know I never even owned a copy of it until a couple years ago. There was something always off putting about it. I finally decided to sit down, have a couple hits, and really listen to it. There are some clunkers, but some strangely interesting moments too. I always have to check to see what the real name of that album is.
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yeah treacle ...
if ya gonna be YELLING at least get a ten-gallon hat