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Would be great if, but what about the cash-flow?
We heard the brilliant She's Doing Her Thing from the Fully Finished Studio Outtakes. Blood Red Wine as well I'm sure there are others. I'm A Country Boy springs to mind.
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Thanks. It s a beauty.... Didn't know it..
Interesting. I wonder what could've been up for inclusion? Family and Blood Red Wine date from the Beggars Banquet sessions, don't they? I'd imagine something like 'Downtown Suzie' would've been one of those 'well-known' outtakes selected; unless that's from Beggars Banquet, too! It's been years since I've listened to any of these old outtakes.
What do you mean with tape copying? All available tapes have been transferred to digital format years ago. The issue is that many of the original master tapes are missing.
Mathijs
You mean Brian Jones instead of Rye Cooder on "Sister Morphine"?
Great post, ProfessorWolf; and I fully concur!
When it comes to outtakes, it’s the 60’s material that is definitely of the most interest, for me. I’m not sure I’d part with money for cutting-floor material from any other era, these day’s.
Regarding Tell Me: that must’ve been a contender for Out of Our Heads; that’s that album’s sound, right there. Unfortunately, it’s missing something. I suppose, generally, the Stones - unlike, say, Dylan - have always been reasonable judges in regard to selecting the best works to compile for their releases. Sure, there’s some rather excellent unreleased material, yet everything - to me, at least - sounds as if it the Stones made the correct call. There’s exceptions, I’m sure, which someone - maybe you! - will point out, probably!
Edit: ‘Try Me’!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-10-11 19:45 by Big Al.
correct!
the dirty work outtakes definitely
and lots of unused or unfinished gems from the undercover sessions too
Yes, please!
An example of Mick being too young and inexperienced to cover James Brown, or Otis Redding, Drifters, or the Temptations early on. I was impressed with his much later stage versions of I Can't Turn You Loose and That's How Strong My Love Is.
It was wonderful to get the BBC stuff. But one wonders how much of that kind of material is left. I'm always up to hear Brian play slide.
Chess Studio Chicago ----- 8 November 1964
ROCKMAN
Thanks a lot Professor! Nice goodies!
“It ruins your high range”
Without Brian.
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Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
The Joker
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Date: October 10, 2023 11:42
Like a Brian Jones-Ronnie Wood version of the Stones...
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-10-10 17:45 by bv.
Re: Any from-the-wault material with Brian Jones they could use now?
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
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Date: October 10, 2023 12:10
Quote
The Joker
Like a Brian Jones version of the Stones...
Would be great if, but what about the cash-flow?
Re: Any from-the-wault material with Brian Jones they could use
Posted by:
Scooby
()
Date: October 10, 2023 12:38
Does Klein’s company still own the rights to recordings from back then? If there were any unreleased gems you can bet ABKCO would have released them a long time ago.
Re: Any from-the-wault material with Brian Jones they could use
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 10, 2023 13:39
Quote
Scooby
Does Klein’s company still own the rights to recordings from back then? If there were any unreleased gems you can bet ABKCO would have released them a long time ago.
We heard the brilliant She's Doing Her Thing from the Fully Finished Studio Outtakes. Blood Red Wine as well I'm sure there are others. I'm A Country Boy springs to mind.
[www.youtube.com]
Re: Any from-the-wault material with Brian Jones they could use now?
Posted by:
Barkerboy2
()
Date: October 10, 2023 14:20
She's Doing Her Thing is an absolute banger. How they let that one slip through the net is beyond me!
Re: Any from-the-wault material with Brian Jones they could use
Posted by:
The Joker
()
Date: October 10, 2023 14:45
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Scooby
Does Klein’s company still own the rights to recordings from back then? If there were any unreleased gems you can bet ABKCO would have released them a long time ago.
We heard the brilliant She's Doing Her Thing from the Fully Finished Studio Outtakes. Blood Red Wine as well I'm sure there are others. I'm A Country Boy springs to mind.
[www.youtube.com]
Thanks. It s a beauty.... Didn't know it..
Re: Any from-the-wault material with Brian Jones they could use now?
Posted by:
Blueranger
()
Date: October 10, 2023 17:25
It’s up to The Stones themselves. ABKCO can’t release any vault material without the band’s approvement. The last time it was up for consideration was with the 50th anniversary of Let It Bleed, which had vault material up for release and the band gave their blessings to. However, Jody Klein backed out as he didn’t want to pay for tape-copying…
Re: Any from-the-wault material with Brian Jones they could use now?
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: October 10, 2023 17:32
Quote
Blueranger
It’s up to The Stones themselves. ABKCO can’t release any vault material without the band’s approvement. The last time it was up for consideration was with the 50th anniversary of Let It Bleed, which had vault material up for release and the band gave their blessings to. However, Jody Klein backed out as he didn’t want to pay for tape-copying
Interesting. I wonder what could've been up for inclusion? Family and Blood Red Wine date from the Beggars Banquet sessions, don't they? I'd imagine something like 'Downtown Suzie' would've been one of those 'well-known' outtakes selected; unless that's from Beggars Banquet, too! It's been years since I've listened to any of these old outtakes.
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
rbarnes00
()
Date: October 11, 2023 07:35
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 11, 2023 08:57
Downtown Suzie is officially released.
The blues version of Love In Vain could have been a contender, along with these tracks:
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-10-11 10:20 by DandelionPowderman.
The blues version of Love In Vain could have been a contender, along with these tracks:
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-10-11 10:20 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Any from-the-wault material with Brian Jones they could use now?
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: October 11, 2023 12:34
Quote
Blueranger
It’s up to The Stones themselves. ABKCO can’t release any vault material without the band’s approvement. The last time it was up for consideration was with the 50th anniversary of Let It Bleed, which had vault material up for release and the band gave their blessings to. However, Jody Klein backed out as he didn’t want to pay for tape-copying…
What do you mean with tape copying? All available tapes have been transferred to digital format years ago. The issue is that many of the original master tapes are missing.
Mathijs
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: October 11, 2023 19:11
for the brian years (sort of a personal wishlist)
there's the dozen or so show's that were professionally recorded during tours of england in 1965 and 66 for the gliywi lp and ep
the shows from the olympia theatre in paris in 65-67 (does anyone know what happened to the original tapes and who owns them now?)
oh and this
the 14 songs recorded for radio luxembourg in 1964
footage of there performance at the nme show in 1968
plus the 60th anniversary of there first two albums is next year
be nice to get some super deluxe versions of those
and who know what's still in the vaults that's not circulating
this popped out nowhere a few years ago
a thorough search through nico's website reveals a lot of unverified rumored tracks in sections on studio sessions between 1962 - 1968
and for those who believe that there's no money in releasing these recordings
well was there anymore potential money in releasing the expensive deluxe versions of keith's solo albums that happened none the less?
there's the dozen or so show's that were professionally recorded during tours of england in 1965 and 66 for the gliywi lp and ep
the shows from the olympia theatre in paris in 65-67 (does anyone know what happened to the original tapes and who owns them now?)
oh and this
the 14 songs recorded for radio luxembourg in 1964
footage of there performance at the nme show in 1968
plus the 60th anniversary of there first two albums is next year
be nice to get some super deluxe versions of those
and who know what's still in the vaults that's not circulating
this popped out nowhere a few years ago
a thorough search through nico's website reveals a lot of unverified rumored tracks in sections on studio sessions between 1962 - 1968
and for those who believe that there's no money in releasing these recordings
well was there anymore potential money in releasing the expensive deluxe versions of keith's solo albums that happened none the less?
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
()
Date: October 11, 2023 19:34
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Downtown Suzie is officially released.
The blues version of Love In Vain could have been a contender, along with these tracks:
You mean Brian Jones instead of Rye Cooder on "Sister Morphine"?
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: October 11, 2023 19:44
Quote
ProfessorWolf
for the brian years (sort of a personal wishlist)
there's the dozen or so show's that were professionally recorded during tours of england in 1965 and 66 for the gliywi lp and ep
the shows from the olympia theatre in paris in 65-67 (does anyone know what happened to the original tapes and who owns them now?)
oh and this
the 14 songs recorded for radio luxembourg in 1964
footage of there performance at the nme show in 1968
plus the 60th anniversary of there first two albums is next year
be nice to get some super deluxe versions of those
and who know what's still in the vaults that's not circulating
this popped out nowhere a few years ago
a thorough search through nico's website reveals a lot of unverified rumored tracks in sections on studio sessions between 1962 - 1968
and for those who believe that there's no money in releasing these recordings
well was there anymore potential money in releasing the expensive deluxe versions of keith's solo albums that happened none the less?
Great post, ProfessorWolf; and I fully concur!
When it comes to outtakes, it’s the 60’s material that is definitely of the most interest, for me. I’m not sure I’d part with money for cutting-floor material from any other era, these day’s.
Regarding Tell Me: that must’ve been a contender for Out of Our Heads; that’s that album’s sound, right there. Unfortunately, it’s missing something. I suppose, generally, the Stones - unlike, say, Dylan - have always been reasonable judges in regard to selecting the best works to compile for their releases. Sure, there’s some rather excellent unreleased material, yet everything - to me, at least - sounds as if it the Stones made the correct call. There’s exceptions, I’m sure, which someone - maybe you! - will point out, probably!
Edit: ‘Try Me’!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-10-11 19:45 by Big Al.
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: October 11, 2023 20:46
Quote
Big AlQuote
ProfessorWolf
for the brian years (sort of a personal wishlist)
there's the dozen or so show's that were professionally recorded during tours of england in 1965 and 66 for the gliywi lp and ep
the shows from the olympia theatre in paris in 65-67 (does anyone know what happened to the original tapes and who owns them now?)
oh and this
the 14 songs recorded for radio luxembourg in 1964
footage of there performance at the nme show in 1968
plus the 60th anniversary of there first two albums is next year
be nice to get some super deluxe versions of those
and who know what's still in the vaults that's not circulating
this popped out nowhere a few years ago
a thorough search through nico's website reveals a lot of unverified rumored tracks in sections on studio sessions between 1962 - 1968
and for those who believe that there's no money in releasing these recordings
well was there anymore potential money in releasing the expensive deluxe versions of keith's solo albums that happened none the less?
Great post, ProfessorWolf; and I fully concur!
When it comes to outtakes, it’s the 60’s material that is definitely of the most interest, for me. I’m not sure I’d part with money for cutting-floor material from any other era, these day’s.
Regarding Tell Me: that must’ve been a contender for Out of Our Heads; that’s that album’s sound, right there. Unfortunately, it’s missing something. I suppose, generally, the Stones - unlike, say, Dylan - have always been reasonable judges in regard to selecting the best works to compile for their releases. Sure, there’s some rather excellent unreleased material, yet everything - to me, at least - sounds as if it the Stones made the correct call. There’s exceptions, I’m sure, which someone - maybe you! - will point out, probably!
Edit: ‘Try Me’!
correct!
the dirty work outtakes definitely
and lots of unused or unfinished gems from the undercover sessions too
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
MononoM
()
Date: October 11, 2023 20:47
not from studio, but there are many radio shows available. Just got me this series complete [www.discogs.com] 
quality varies and all are known recordings, but very nice to have
Life's just a cocktail party on the street
quality varies and all are known recordings, but very nice to have
Life's just a cocktail party on the street
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
Cristiano Radtke
()
Date: October 11, 2023 20:54
Quote
ProfessorWolf
oh and this
Yes, please!
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: October 11, 2023 21:54
Quote
ProfessorWolf
for the brian years (sort of a personal wishlist)
there's the dozen or so show's that were professionally recorded during tours of england in 1965 and 66 for the gliywi lp and ep
the shows from the olympia theatre in paris in 65-67 (does anyone know what happened to the original tapes and who owns them now?)
oh and this
the 14 songs recorded for radio luxembourg in 1964
footage of there performance at the nme show in 1968
plus the 60th anniversary of there first two albums is next year
be nice to get some super deluxe versions of those
and who know what's still in the vaults that's not circulating
this popped out nowhere a few years ago
a thorough search through nico's website reveals a lot of unverified rumored tracks in sections on studio sessions between 1962 - 1968
and for those who believe that there's no money in releasing these recordings
well was there anymore potential money in releasing the expensive deluxe versions of keith's solo albums that happened none the less?
An example of Mick being too young and inexperienced to cover James Brown, or Otis Redding, Drifters, or the Temptations early on. I was impressed with his much later stage versions of I Can't Turn You Loose and That's How Strong My Love Is.
It was wonderful to get the BBC stuff. But one wonders how much of that kind of material is left. I'm always up to hear Brian play slide.
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
snoopy2
()
Date: October 11, 2023 22:02
Would love Mr. Oldham to chime in this thread.. Maybe something in an old shoe box?
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
sweet things
()
Date: October 11, 2023 22:44
From Interview September, 2023
He once made music with Jones, which has never been released. “I’ve been looking for the tapes,” he says. “Our music preceded Satanic Majesties and that whole direction of psychedelia the Stones went down.”
[www.theguardian.com]
He once made music with Jones, which has never been released. “I’ve been looking for the tapes,” he says. “Our music preceded Satanic Majesties and that whole direction of psychedelia the Stones went down.”
[www.theguardian.com]
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
dmay
()
Date: October 11, 2023 22:51
Wow! Try Me - what a great song - is pure James Brown. The sound, voice, pauses in the music bring to mind when Brown would stop in a song, fall to his knees, and a band member would come out seeing if he was okay, eventually placing a cape or such on Brown, which he'd shuck off and get back into the song, the crowd going wild. Such showmanship. Wouldn't you love to see Mick do similar in tribute to Brown and those TAMI show days. What a blast such a move would be in a small venue where, probably, half the crowd would be going "What the hell" not knowing squat about James Brown in his glory days and the other half (us olden ones) would be going "cool".
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: October 11, 2023 23:43
Quote
24FPSQuote
ProfessorWolf
An example of Mick being too young and inexperienced to cover James Brown, or Otis Redding, Drifters, or the Temptations early on. I was impressed with his much later stage versions of I Can't Turn You Loose and That's How Strong My Love Is.
It was wonderful to get the BBC stuff. But one wonders how much of that kind of material is left. I'm always up to hear Brian play slide.
yes i agree (though i still love there versions of those songs!) it wasn't until 68-69 that his voice was able to do real justice to these kind of songs
but there is still a certain charm to his attempts early on at them
and the band behind him is pretty good at least
also mr. pitiful
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Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
georgemcdonnell314
()
Date: October 12, 2023 00:15
I personally think anything from the Brian era will sell better than remaster/ outtakes of anything since Tattoo You.
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: October 12, 2023 00:22
Chess Studio Chicago ----- 8 November 1964
ROCKMAN
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: October 12, 2023 04:58
just off the top of my head
get yourself together
looking tired
trouble in mind (With Kazzoos!)
stewed and keefed
meet me in the bottom
hi heeled sneakers
tell me baby
goodbye girl
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-10-12 05:02 by ProfessorWolf.
get yourself together
looking tired
trouble in mind (With Kazzoos!)
stewed and keefed
meet me in the bottom
hi heeled sneakers
tell me baby
goodbye girl
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-10-12 05:02 by ProfessorWolf.
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
The Joker
()
Date: October 12, 2023 12:40
Quote
ProfessorWolf
just off the top of my head
get yourself together
looking tired
trouble in mind (With Kazzoos!)
stewed and keefed
meet me in the bottom
hi heeled sneakers
tell me baby
goodbye girl
Thanks a lot Professor! Nice goodies!
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
HardRiffin
()
Date: October 12, 2023 17:58
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
snoopy2
()
Date: October 12, 2023 18:11
Quote
sweet things
From Interview September, 2023
He once made music with Jones, which has never been released. “I’ve been looking for the tapes,” he says. “Our music preceded Satanic Majesties and that whole direction of psychedelia the Stones went down.”
[www.theguardian.com]
“It ruins your high range”
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: October 12, 2023 18:19
Isn’t this proof he could write music.Mick could have taken this and added lyrics.The music could have been worked up more into a song
Re: Any from-the-vault material with Brian Jones?
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: October 13, 2023 11:47
Quote
Rockman
Chess Studio Chicago ----- 8 November 1964
Without Brian.
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