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Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Date: September 18, 2023 13:24

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Wikipedia says Keith Richards also on Bass.

Classic Keith, but with a new (almost distorted) sound. Love that bass thumbs up

If someone would have told us 40 years ago that this was going to happen, we wouldn't believe it .smiling smiley

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: September 18, 2023 13:46

40 years ... well Yeah sorta
but I kinda knew theyd never let us down ...



ROCKMAN

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: September 18, 2023 15:40

Well, I haven't really had much time to loop the YT video since Thursday last around noon. But I'm back home now, and it's been on loop since 7:30am EST. I'll contribute all I can to get this one up to 20MM!!!! What's their highest most streamed song on YT?

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: FrogSugar ()
Date: September 18, 2023 16:43

Haven't read through the 16 pages, is there any significance to the HOTOM80 license plate on the car?

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: September 18, 2023 17:00

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VoodooLounge13
Well, I haven't really had much time to loop the YT video since Thursday last around noon. But I'm back home now, and it's been on loop since 7:30am EST. I'll contribute all I can to get this one up to 20MM!!!! What's their highest most streamed song on YT?

Probably one of the official Paint it, Black videos.

Anyway, keep up the good work! thumbs up

ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: bye bye johnny ()
Date: September 18, 2023 18:20

The truth about Mick Jagger’s autotune in The Rolling Stones’ new song

The band’s latest track ‘Angry’ has sparked debate about whether the singer’s vocals have been modified, and what that says about the classic rock group

Carlos Marcos
Madrid - Sep 18, 2023


David M. Benett

[english.elpais.com]

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Date: September 18, 2023 18:40

And why not ? Makes it a bit more slick. It suits the song.grinning smiley Technically there's nothing new under the sun, long before the article says, 1996??. The Synclavier, the sampled horns, for guitar, famous on "This is not America" sung by Bowie had autotune in 1985 already. Of course the guitar is a different instrument, but WTF.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: snoopy2 ()
Date: September 18, 2023 18:46

If autotune enhances a song I don’t care if it’s used, I remember being intrigued when I first would listen to how the Beatles and Stones would double their own vocals, or come in on only certain words as an effect and thought it was pretty cool..

Question is does it work to enhance Angry? For me it does when I listen on good headphones or stereo cuz I hear different layers, the initial listen on laptop speakers it stood out a bit to me at first but now I don’t pay attention cuz the song has grown on me

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: MonkeyMan2000 ()
Date: September 18, 2023 18:53

I find the autotune and vocal production not very well done on Angry. Not because I don't like autotune: It can be used artistically in many different ways and I think Ghost Town is a good example where it fits because that kind of dub sound carries a long tradition of effects and sound manipulation.
On a Rock'n'Roll-tune like Angry it sounds cheesy and I get Angry because I know Mick doesn't need it. That's the main reason I'm looking forward to hearing a live version.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: snoopy2 ()
Date: September 18, 2023 19:19

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I find the autotune and vocal production not very well done on Angry. Not because I don't like autotune: It can be used artistically in many different ways and I think Ghost Town is a good example where it fits because that kind of dub sound carries a long tradition of effects and sound manipulation.
On a Rock'n'Roll-tune like Angry it sounds cheesy and I get Angry because I know Mick doesn't need it. That's the main reason I'm looking forward to hearing a live version.

Ya I’d love to hear it live as well.. Agree he doesn’t need it and ultimately would’ve preferred this song without it but more I listen the more I hear it for what it is and not with my own history of hearing Mick all these years.. Kind of a leap of faith in a way.. And personally it’s my favorite new thing I’ve heard from them since the Undercover album, personally

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: September 18, 2023 23:02

Question for those in the know........is the cover artwork for the CD single the same on the cheaper version as it is on the Japanese-only SHM CD Single?

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: September 19, 2023 00:30

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VoodooLounge13

Question for those in the know........is the cover artwork for the CD single the same on the cheaper version as it is on the Japanese-only SHM CD Single?

'Angry' - comparison of the artwork pictures: Japanese SHM-CD (UICY-5138) - [www.Universal-Music.co.jp] . Other releases - [www.Discogs.com] , [www.45worlds.com] .

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: September 19, 2023 01:06

OK so it's the same 'round the world. Well, that's one less thing I need to buy! LOL Thanks Irix!

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: September 19, 2023 02:27

It's been going around in my head for a week. First I heard a Start Me Up similarity. Then a snippet kept repeating. Finally I figured it out. Angry also has a bit of Marvin Gaye's That's the Way Love Is.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: September 19, 2023 02:35

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maumau
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whatever, genius of a line like: "I'm still taking the pills and I'm off to Brazil"

That is - my reading - Mick having fun rhyming and not giving a sh*t about writing deep meaning stuff.

"Still taking the pills" may refer to the bloodthinners and other medications he will have to take for the rest of his life after the transapical aortic valve implantation he underwent in 2019. "Off to brazil" may mean that he's nevertheless back to business as usual. Maybe his doctors are angry with him?

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: September 19, 2023 14:34

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doitywoik
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maumau
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whatever, genius of a line like: "I'm still taking the pills and I'm off to Brazil"

That is - my reading - Mick having fun rhyming and not giving a sh*t about writing deep meaning stuff.

"Still taking the pills" may refer to the bloodthinners and other medications he will have to take for the rest of his life after the transapical aortic valve implantation he underwent in 2019. "Off to brazil" may mean that he's nevertheless back to business as usual. Maybe his doctors are angry with him?


Despite the presumptuous erudite ramblings on the meaning of this one, it seems clear to me...
Mick is ranting about an affair. The jilted lover is angry about the STD he left her with and he says, hey sorry. "I'm still taking the pills and I'm off to Brazil". He knows that they will both be fine. Clear it up, clean it up and move on. Experience talking, you know?!

Simple. Brash. Kick Ass Rock N' Roll.
Don't overthink it and just enjoy the hell out of it.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: September 19, 2023 15:15

I saw it mostly like that myself, Kurt, though I didn't see any reference to a STD......

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 19, 2023 16:10

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Kurt
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doitywoik
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maumau
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whatever, genius of a line like: "I'm still taking the pills and I'm off to Brazil"

That is - my reading - Mick having fun rhyming and not giving a sh*t about writing deep meaning stuff.

"Still taking the pills" may refer to the bloodthinners and other medications he will have to take for the rest of his life after the transapical aortic valve implantation he underwent in 2019. "Off to brazil" may mean that he's nevertheless back to business as usual. Maybe his doctors are angry with him?


Despite the presumptuous erudite ramblings on the meaning of this one, it seems clear to me...
Mick is ranting about an affair. The jilted lover is angry about the STD he left her with and he says, hey sorry. "I'm still taking the pills and I'm off to Brazil". He knows that they will both be fine. Clear it up, clean it up and move on. Experience talking, you know?!

Simple. Brash. Kick Ass Rock N' Roll.
Don't overthink it and just enjoy the hell out of it.


The way I read it is I am still using Viagra pills (meaning he is still active) and in fact, I am off to Brazil

C

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: September 19, 2023 16:50

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liddas
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Kurt
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doitywoik
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maumau
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whatever, genius of a line like: "I'm still taking the pills and I'm off to Brazil"

That is - my reading - Mick having fun rhyming and not giving a sh*t about writing deep meaning stuff.

"Still taking the pills" may refer to the bloodthinners and other medications he will have to take for the rest of his life after the transapical aortic valve implantation he underwent in 2019. "Off to brazil" may mean that he's nevertheless back to business as usual. Maybe his doctors are angry with him?


Despite the presumptuous erudite ramblings on the meaning of this one, it seems clear to me...
Mick is ranting about an affair. The jilted lover is angry about the STD he left her with and he says, hey sorry. "I'm still taking the pills and I'm off to Brazil". He knows that they will both be fine. Clear it up, clean it up and move on. Experience talking, you know?!

Simple. Brash. Kick Ass Rock N' Roll.
Don't overthink it and just enjoy the hell out of it.


The way I read it is I am still using Viagra pills (meaning he is still active) and in fact, I am off to Brazil

C


NOW we're on to something...
He's still taking the blue pills and all she needs to do is take the STD pills.
Long Live The Rolling Stones!

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: September 19, 2023 17:23

There is an interesting contrast between the private nature of Jagger's lyrics and his refusal to talk about anything private in other media.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: September 19, 2023 17:49

First complete week for Angry in the US charts, the song already debuted last week on some charts with only 2 days of airplay/sales.

The Billboard 200
TW LW WoC Artist Title
188 168 422 The Rolling Stones - Hot Rocks 1964-1971

Adult Alternative Airplay
TW LW WoC Artist Title
25 new 1 The Rolling Stones - Angry

Rock & Alternative Airplay
TW LW WoC Artist Title
44 42 2 The Rolling Stones - Angry

Digital Song Sales
TW LW WoC Artist Title
28 49 2 The Rolling Stones - Angry

Hot Rock & Alternative Songs
TW LW WoC Artist Title
32 44 2 The Rolling Stones - Angry

Hot Rock Songs
TW LW WoC Artist Title
22 new 1 The Rolling Stones - Angry

Rock Digital Song Sales
TW LW WoC Artist Title
7 20 2 The Rolling Stones - Angry

"ANGRY" has a way bigger impact in the UK than in the US so far.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: stanlove ()
Date: September 19, 2023 18:03

One thing I noticed is the official Youtube video had 13 million views the day sfter it was released and now only 15 million. People are not going back to listen to it again because it’s not a good song.

Still makes no sense to push the media blitz 6 weeks before the album is released.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: September 19, 2023 18:13

I'm still looping it! It's a great tune actually. I really enjoy it. And I try to limit my listenings so I don't become bored with it, and I refuse to listen to any other songs until the album comes out, even if they release a 2nd single ahead of time. I want to take time and immerse myself in the album.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Date: September 19, 2023 18:53

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stanlove
One thing I noticed is the official Youtube video had 13 million views the day sfter it was released and now only 15 million. People are not going back to listen to it again because it’s not a good song.

Still makes no sense to push the media blitz 6 weeks before the album is released.

Looking back through this thread, around page 6, one poster reports it has had "9.8 million YouTube views in less than two days" - not 13m. So since those first few days of peak viewership, it's added another 5.2 million views, which isn't too shabby....!
Today I bought some new headphones which are a considerable upgrade on my old ones, and to me it sounds brilliant. When you get to the first guitar solo, and when the handclaps come in, it just hits overdrive to become a pure peak Stones on a mega roll - hitting all seven of the rock n roll chakras, from crown to root - it's the kind of noise that has you racing round the room like a demented cat.
OK I'll get me hat.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: September 19, 2023 19:36

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stanlove
One thing I noticed is the official Youtube video had 13 million views the day sfter it was released and now only 15 million. People are not going back to listen to it again because it’s not a good song.

Still makes no sense to push the media blitz 6 weeks before the album is released.

This, or, more likely, one or two views of the video and you are done with it, then you continue listening from your streaming service. Of course, if you like the song. At least this is me.

C

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: stanlove ()
Date: September 19, 2023 19:40

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stanlove
One thing I noticed is the official Youtube video had 13 million views the day sfter it was released and now only 15 million. People are not going back to listen to it again because it’s not a good song.

Still makes no sense to push the media blitz 6 weeks before the album is released.

Looking back through this thread, around page 6, one poster reports it has had "9.8 million YouTube views in less than two days" - not 13m. So since those first few days of peak viewership, it's added another 5.2 million views, which isn't too shabby....!
Today I bought some new headphones which are a considerable upgrade on my old ones, and to me it sounds brilliant. When you get to the first guitar solo, and when the handclaps come in, it just hits overdrive to become a pure peak Stones on a mega roll - hitting all seven of the rock n roll chakras, from crown to root - it's the kind of noise that has you racing round the room like a demented cat.
OK I'll get me hat.

Wrong. It had 13 million after 2 days. It doesn’t matter what ut had in less than 2 days.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: stanlove ()
Date: September 19, 2023 19:42

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liddas
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stanlove
One thing I noticed is the official Youtube video had 13 million views the day sfter it was released and now only 15 million. People are not going back to listen to it again because it’s not a good song.

Still makes no sense to push the media blitz 6 weeks before the album is released.

This, or, more likely, one or two views of the video and you are done with it, then you continue listening from your streaming service. Of course, if you like the song. At least this is me.

C

That is not happening with popular songs. Popular songs have huge numbers of views.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: September 19, 2023 19:44

I'm already tired of Angry, I'm desperate to get my hands on Sweet Sounds of Heaven.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: September 19, 2023 19:46

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Stoneage
There is an interesting contrast between the private nature of Jagger's lyrics and his refusal to talk about anything private in other media.

I don't think his lyrics are ever actually private, he always makes up a character when he writes a song. It's almost never actually about his own life.

Re: ANGRY - new Stones single and video
Posted by: stanlove ()
Date: September 19, 2023 20:01

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NilsHolgersson
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Stoneage
There is an interesting contrast between the private nature of Jagger's lyrics and his refusal to talk about anything private in other media.

I don't think his lyrics are ever actually private, he always makes up a character when he writes a song. It's almost never actually about his own life.

Jagger has pretty much made it clear that he doesn’t often write about himself yet people always try to figure out whst he is saying about himself when he writes songs. Half a century and counting.

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