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Hound Dog
If you look at someone like Taylor Swift, she doesn't play one instrument on her albums. And she doesn't write songs by herself... Many will not believe this but its true see here..
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slew
The Steel Wheels tour was huge. They have never really lost relevance except after 1989 I don't think their new music resonates.
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Hound Dog
If you look at someone like Taylor Swift, she doesn't play one instrument on her albums. And she doesn't write songs by herself... Many will not believe this but its true see here..
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That’s just on this album. She writes most of her own music.
Not sure what you are trying to prove here.
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Hound Dog
If you look at someone like Taylor Swift, she doesn't play one instrument on her albums. And she doesn't write songs by herself... Many will not believe this but its true see here..
[en.wikipedia.org]
That’s just on this album. She writes most of her own music.
Not sure what you are trying to prove here.
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His Majesty
My point of view is that they are completely integrated in to mainstream culture. Their past and present influencing it, influenced by it, completely entangled in the fabric of it all. They are everywhere, in art, music, photography, film, social media etc etc.
Mainstream is the important distinction. In the past they were more part of youth culture and/or counter-culture as it was. That slowly became mainstream culture. I think this shift is what people are seeing as a move in to irrelevance, when, perhaps, it's more a case of The Rolling Stones way of doing things became more and more accepted, integrated, assimilated in to mainstream culture.
I'd say they are on the outside of current youth and counter-culture, but still influencing it somewhat simply because they are everywhere. I think most of us are just too old to have any real grasp on what youth and counter culture is now though.
In short, along with many others, The Rolling Stones are mainstream culture.
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My point of view is that they are completely integrated in to mainstream culture. Their past and present influencing it, influenced by it, completely entangled in the fabric of it all. They are everywhere, in art, music, photography, film, social media etc etc.
Mainstream is the important distinction. In the past they were more part of youth culture and/or counter-culture as it was. That slowly became mainstream culture. I think this shift is what people are seeing as a move in to irrelevance, when, perhaps, it's more a case of The Rolling Stones way of doing things became more and more accepted, integrated, assimilated in to mainstream culture.
I'd say they are on the outside of current youth and counter-culture, but still influencing it somewhat simply because they are everywhere. I think most of us are just too old to have any real grasp on what youth and counter culture is now though.
In short, along with many others, The Rolling Stones are mainstream culture.
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mickschix
Even if the Stones' recent albums did not sell millions of copies, they've already established themselves as icons with nothing left to prove. They will ALWAYS be relevant, their place in History is firmly imprinted. Everything that they've done since the 1990's is just gravy, the cherry on top of their wondrous " cake".
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mickschix
Even if the Stones' recent albums did not sell millions of copies, they've already established themselves as icons with nothing left to prove. They will ALWAYS be relevant, their place in History is firmly imprinted. Everything that they've done since the 1990's is just gravy, the cherry on top of their wondrous " cake".
I've never come across anything that the Stones themselves said they had something or anything, for that matter, to prove.
They just wanted to play music. They still do. So that hasn't changed.
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Hound Dog
If you look at someone like Taylor Swift, she doesn't play one instrument on her albums. And she doesn't write songs by herself... Many will not believe this but its true see here..
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That’s just on this album. She writes most of her own music.
Not sure what you are trying to prove here.
Looks like she wrote the tune "Vigilante Shit" by herself on the recent album, along with "Bigger Than the Whole Sky" on the 3 AM and Late Night Editions of the album.
And yes, most of her tunes from previous albums were written by her alone. Not a fan of her music, but gotta give credit where credits due.
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Hound Dog
If you look at someone like Taylor Swift, she doesn't play one instrument on her albums. And she doesn't write songs by herself... Many will not believe this but its true see here..
[en.wikipedia.org]
That’s just on this album. She writes most of her own music.
Not sure what you are trying to prove here.
Looks like she wrote the tune "Vigilante Shit" by herself on the recent album, along with "Bigger Than the Whole Sky" on the 3 AM and Late Night Editions of the album.
And yes, most of her tunes from previous albums were written by her alone. Not a fan of her music, but gotta give credit where credits due.
I mean...we are not talking about Joni Mitchell here. I do understand she writes her own songs, I just do not think that means much (does anyone think she is a great song writer?).
Best believe I'm still bejeweled
When I walk in the room
I can still make the whole place shimmer
And when I meet the band
They ask, "Do you have a man?"
I could still say, "I don't remember"
Revolutionary?
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Stoneage
When did the music of The Rolling Stones lose its relevance to mainstream culture?
I mean when did the new music of the Rolling Stones start to lose its grip on the mainstream audience?
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Hound Dog
If you look at someone like Taylor Swift, she doesn't play one instrument on her albums. And she doesn't write songs by herself... Many will not believe this but its true see here..
[en.wikipedia.org]
That’s just on this album. She writes most of her own music.
Not sure what you are trying to prove here.
Looks like she wrote the tune "Vigilante Shit" by herself on the recent album, along with "Bigger Than the Whole Sky" on the 3 AM and Late Night Editions of the album.
And yes, most of her tunes from previous albums were written by her alone. Not a fan of her music, but gotta give credit where credits due.
I mean...we are not talking about Joni Mitchell here. I do understand she writes her own songs, I just do not think that means much (does anyone think she is a great song writer?).
Best believe I'm still bejeweled
When I walk in the room
I can still make the whole place shimmer
And when I meet the band
They ask, "Do you have a man?"
I could still say, "I don't remember"
Revolutionary?
Based on the number of Grammys she's won, along with all of her chart success, not to mention her massive tours in stadiums, and her rabid fan base, I'd have to guess someone thinks she's a great songwriter. Revolutionary? Might try asking that on a Taylor Swift forum. From what little I know of her music, I'd probably say she's no Dylan, Beatles, or Stones, but again I'm not a fan of her music so cant really give an accurate opinion one way or the other.
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Hound Dog
If you look at someone like Taylor Swift, she doesn't play one instrument on her albums. And she doesn't write songs by herself... Many will not believe this but its true see here..
[en.wikipedia.org]
That’s just on this album. She writes most of her own music.
Not sure what you are trying to prove here.
Looks like she wrote the tune "Vigilante Shit" by herself on the recent album, along with "Bigger Than the Whole Sky" on the 3 AM and Late Night Editions of the album.
And yes, most of her tunes from previous albums were written by her alone. Not a fan of her music, but gotta give credit where credits due.
I mean...we are not talking about Joni Mitchell here. I do understand she writes her own songs, I just do not think that means much (does anyone think she is a great song writer?).
Best believe I'm still bejeweled
When I walk in the room
I can still make the whole place shimmer
And when I meet the band
They ask, "Do you have a man?"
I could still say, "I don't remember"
Revolutionary?
Based on the number of Grammys she's won, along with all of her chart success, not to mention her massive tours in stadiums, and her rabid fan base, I'd have to guess someone thinks she's a great songwriter. Revolutionary? Might try asking that on a Taylor Swift forum. From what little I know of her music, I'd probably say she's no Dylan, Beatles, or Stones, but again I'm not a fan of her music so cant really give an accurate opinion one way or the other.
"Someone thinks she's a great songwriter." Wow...high bar you got there. You seem to think that she is popular thus she is a great songwriter. Others require more than popularity to annoint greatness. Is your list of great writers in order of popularity? Album Sales? Commercials their songs were in? Products sold? Money made? Who is the richest, they must be the best!
Why do you hate Joni Mitchell?
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lem motlow
Taking an act that has been in the business so long that the type of music they play has gone out of style and comparing them to a modern day cultural phenomenon is a bit silly.
Taylor Swift reminds me of when I suddenly noticed a 25-0 Mike Tyson.before you know it everything has changed.
She’s finishing up her tour with 6 (six) nights at SoFi in LA.let that sink in-
If you’re not in the States look up SoFi, You’re gonna be shocked.
She currently has four records in the top ten, that hasn’t been done for decades apparently.
Again you can’t compare the Stones to anything happening now let alone Taylor Swift.to put it in context,she was born the year of Steel Wheels.
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MartinB
Not sure if relevance is the same thing as enduring importance, probably not, but regarding the latter, the key question is what will be Taylor Swift's standing in 20 years time. Anyone's guess...
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MartinB
Not sure if relevance is the same thing as enduring importance, probably not, but regarding the latter, the key question is what will be Taylor Swift's standing in 20 years time. Anyone's guess...
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Stoneage
When did the music of The Rolling Stones lose its relevance to mainstream culture?
I mean when did the new music of the Rolling Stones start to lose its grip on the mainstream audience?
Ehm. 12.000.000 views for a new song (just) on YT - I think that is relevance.
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