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I'm happy for Mick, it's nice to see him with his extended family, he's a lucky guy or more simply I think he's a fantastic and generous person but it's nice to see them! I don't care how old everyone is and what clothes they're wearing, I don't care to count how much hair Mick has lost, I leave that to frivolous people and there's just too much for my liking.

Yes i look at it the same way, it doesn't bother me what wig he has or how old and ravaged he looks, it just makes it more fascinating they still tour and best of all while Mick looks so old but he and Keith still do their gig, well it means I'M NOT OLD.

Day Three of England and Australia cricket series at The Kia Oval:

With Richard Thompson, chairman of the England Cricket Board

Mick Jagger is 80. Let’s pay tribute to his greatest gift to the world

Donald Clarke: Mick Jagger and his peers liberated young men from requirement to dress like their dad


The Rolling Stones in 1968: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Brian Jones. Photograph: Camera PRes/JBA

Donald Clarke
Sun Jul 30 2023

As Michael Jagger reaches an impossible 80th birthday, let us ponder his greatest gift to the world.

In 1967, William Rees-Mogg, then editor of the London Times, but not yet father of Jacob, dragged Alexander Pope into an editorial on the recent drugs bust (as he almost certainly wouldn’t have called it) at Keith Richards’s house in rural Sussex. Both the householder and his pal Mick were slung into the nick for a night while the commentarial pondered the consequences. Perhaps surprisingly, it was Rees-Mogg’s piece in the Thunderer, rather than any hand-wringing in the Guardian, that is remembered as the most potent defence. “Who Breaks a Butterfly on a Wheel?,” he asked, quoting from Pope’s Epistle to Dr Arbuthnot. The editor went on to air a suspicion “that Mr Jagger received a more severe sentence than would have been thought proper for any purely anonymous young man”. Mick eventually got away with a conditional discharge.

Rees-Mogg was just the right side of 40 at the time of the arrest. Contemporaneous photographs show a sober-looking, grey-suited individual wearing the sort of heavy glasses that have since passed through a style revolution and become vaguely trendy. A high forehead is topped by a straggled parting. He looks, in short, as all everyday men were once supposed to look when they passed the age of 25. You wore a suit and tie from Monday to Friday. You only ever wore denim if you worked on the railways. Hair and collar were never in contact. The trouser fly was the only place a zip was found on your clothing.

This wasn’t entirely a class thing. Look at photographs of British football crowds in 1960 and you will see quite a few dressed as if for a formal appointment. There is little colour to the garments. “Ladies” encountered a more complex series of informal regulations, but, to a certain point in history, they were still expected to dress for the village fete when 30 loomed. Rees-Mogg was, in 1967, well over a decade younger than Jade Jagger, daughter of Mick and Bianca, is at time of writing. Happily, she does not yet feel the need to pull on sober formal prints when presenting her latest jewellery collection.

Anyway, Mick Jagger was 80 on Wednesday. This scarcely seems possible. It is like learning Bosco or Paddington is 80. As with those fictional characters, Sir Michael seems – let’s not look too close – forever manacled to the age at which the wider world first met him. The same year as of the drugs bust, the Sunday Times Magazine asked artist Michael Leonard to create an impression of what Jagger would look like 30 years hence. At this stage the notion of the Beatles and the Stones reaching middle age was the stuff of science fiction. Most everyone assumed their music would soon be as unfashionable as George Formby’s then was. Leonard delivers something between a Belle Époque roué and a rougher Noël Coward. His hair receding (as if), black cigarette in a silver holder, Jagger scowls downwards in an apparent state of imperial regret. He wears a white polo neck and an odd furry high collar. One could imagine this version, alone in a gothic castle, sadly reliving that brief dawn when he ruled the world. Like Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard. Only a dead monkey for company.

That was not how things worked out. At the age of 54, Jagger was a marginally more creased variation on the 1967 edition. He was still touring with the Stones. Rather than dressing like a faded silent star, he sported lurid tracksuits while leaping explosively round the world’s great stadiums. Twenty-six years later there isn’t much to add. It is less than 12 months since the Stones worked through their hits on the 60th anniversary tour. The face still looked like a friendly old saddle.

What else would you expect? By the time William Rees-Mogg had written that editorial, Jagger and his generation had liberated young men from the requirement to dress like their dad the minute they attained voting age. Jagger more than anyone else. The Beatles began in their nice little suits. The Stones frontman strolled before the camera in a polo shirt, checked slacks and desert boots. The world noticed and did the same. Manners altered accordingly. Not everyone could live Jagger’s extravagant life, but you needn’t adopt the tweedy bristle of a golf club bore either. Jagger and crewri. It was not a change to compare with the great social liberations of the 1960s, but it mattered for those who chose to get on board.

Not everyone did. Jacob Rees-Mogg was born in 1969. But that’s a story for another day.

[www.irishtimes.com]

....here we go again .......



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bye bye johnny
Mick Jagger is 80. Let’s pay tribute to his greatest gift to the world

Donald Clarke: Mick Jagger and his peers liberated young men from requirement to dress like their dad


The Rolling Stones in 1968: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Brian Jones. Photograph: Camera PRes/JBA

Donald Clarke
Sun Jul 30 2023

As Michael Jagger reaches an impossible 80th birthday, let us ponder his greatest gift to the world.

In 1967, William Rees-Mogg, then editor of the London Times, but not yet father of Jacob, dragged Alexander Pope into an editorial on the recent drugs bust (as he almost certainly wouldn’t have called it) at Keith Richards’s house in rural Sussex. Both the householder and his pal Mick were slung into the nick for a night while the commentarial pondered the consequences. Perhaps surprisingly, it was Rees-Mogg’s piece in the Thunderer, rather than any hand-wringing in the Guardian, that is remembered as the most potent defence. “Who Breaks a Butterfly on a Wheel?,” he asked, quoting from Pope’s Epistle to Dr Arbuthnot. The editor went on to air a suspicion “that Mr Jagger received a more severe sentence than would have been thought proper for any purely anonymous young man”. Mick eventually got away with a conditional discharge.

Rees-Mogg was just the right side of 40 at the time of the arrest. Contemporaneous photographs show a sober-looking, grey-suited individual wearing the sort of heavy glasses that have since passed through a style revolution and become vaguely trendy. A high forehead is topped by a straggled parting. He looks, in short, as all everyday men were once supposed to look when they passed the age of 25. You wore a suit and tie from Monday to Friday. You only ever wore denim if you worked on the railways. Hair and collar were never in contact. The trouser fly was the only place a zip was found on your clothing.

This wasn’t entirely a class thing. Look at photographs of British football crowds in 1960 and you will see quite a few dressed as if for a formal appointment. There is little colour to the garments. “Ladies” encountered a more complex series of informal regulations, but, to a certain point in history, they were still expected to dress for the village fete when 30 loomed. Rees-Mogg was, in 1967, well over a decade younger than Jade Jagger, daughter of Mick and Bianca, is at time of writing. Happily, she does not yet feel the need to pull on sober formal prints when presenting her latest jewellery collection.

Anyway, Mick Jagger was 80 on Wednesday. This scarcely seems possible. It is like learning Bosco or Paddington is 80. As with those fictional characters, Sir Michael seems – let’s not look too close – forever manacled to the age at which the wider world first met him. The same year as of the drugs bust, the Sunday Times Magazine asked artist Michael Leonard to create an impression of what Jagger would look like 30 years hence. At this stage the notion of the Beatles and the Stones reaching middle age was the stuff of science fiction. Most everyone assumed their music would soon be as unfashionable as George Formby’s then was. Leonard delivers something between a Belle Époque roué and a rougher Noël Coward. His hair receding (as if), black cigarette in a silver holder, Jagger scowls downwards in an apparent state of imperial regret. He wears a white polo neck and an odd furry high collar. One could imagine this version, alone in a gothic castle, sadly reliving that brief dawn when he ruled the world. Like Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard. Only a dead monkey for company.

That was not how things worked out. At the age of 54, Jagger was a marginally more creased variation on the 1967 edition. He was still touring with the Stones. Rather than dressing like a faded silent star, he sported lurid tracksuits while leaping explosively round the world’s great stadiums. Twenty-six years later there isn’t much to add. It is less than 12 months since the Stones worked through their hits on the 60th anniversary tour. The face still looked like a friendly old saddle.

What else would you expect? By the time William Rees-Mogg had written that editorial, Jagger and his generation had liberated young men from the requirement to dress like their dad the minute they attained voting age. Jagger more than anyone else. The Beatles began in their nice little suits. The Stones frontman strolled before the camera in a polo shirt, checked slacks and desert boots. The world noticed and did the same. Manners altered accordingly. Not everyone could live Jagger’s extravagant life, but you needn’t adopt the tweedy bristle of a golf club bore either. Jagger and crewri. It was not a change to compare with the great social liberations of the 1960s, but it mattered for those who chose to get on board.

Not everyone did. Jacob Rees-Mogg was born in 1969. But that’s a story for another day.

[www.irishtimes.com]

Ironically, William's son Jacob (mentioned above near the end) does dress exactly like his own father. And doubly ironically (and actually rather creepy "mini-me") his son (name unkown to me), who is hardly in his teens, ALSO dresses in the same early 20th century style. (Perhaps more accurately... is dressed by his parents in the same early 20th century style).. 3 piece suit (incl waistcoat).

Stones pedants may care to count the hands in the above photo, and then explain. :-)

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Hello!

I hereby share a posta made in Facebook by Stephen Stills, regarding Mick’s birthday:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0FFUeXCKqjperKPpugKKgrf8g3NSSXnXy3v6JimT1VQRaadGdx6zF8Dj39Jc9wa1Ml&id=100065244590553]Stephen Stills 1970[/url]

Fixed your linka: [www.facebook.com]



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bye bye johnny
Mick Jagger is 80. Let’s pay tribute to his greatest gift to the world

Donald Clarke: Mick Jagger and his peers liberated young men from requirement to dress like their dad


The Rolling Stones in 1968: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Brian Jones. Photograph: Camera PRes/JBA

Stones pedants may care to count the hands in the above photo, and then explain. :-)

ELEVEN!?!?
Clearly, the extra creepy extra hand must belong to Matt Clifford.

I thought that was Piers Morgan's hand.

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Isn't that also his eldest, Karis, in the bottom left.

And also his son James in front of her.

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Isn't that also his eldest, Karis, in the bottom left.

And also his son James in front of her.

And Karis' children, Mick's grandchildren, Maisie (next to Karis) and Zak (next to James). Happy family times!

Great to see Mick with so many of his children and grandchildren. A big measure of success in life is if your children are happy, well-adjusted, and close to the family. Mick and Keith have done surprisingly well in this regard.

Is there any guest list around?

Happy belated birthday Mick .

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Isn't that also his eldest, Karis, in the bottom left.

And also his son James in front of her.

And Karis' children, Mick's grandchildren, Maisie (next to Karis) and Zak (next to James). Happy family times!

And brother Chris next to Mick

Mick's personal assistant Dom Faccini on the right.

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Isn't that also his eldest, Karis, in the bottom left.

And also his son James in front of her.

And Karis' children, Mick's grandchildren, Maisie (next to Karis) and Zak (next to James). Happy family times!

And brother Chris next to Mick

Stop and think about this for a second: Just about everyone on this board at one time or another via purchase of albums, CDs, concert tickets, various merchandise (t shirts, jackets, hats, etc) has contributed to making Sir Mick (a very successful) man of wealth and taste. Let's give ourselves a round applause!



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Does anyone else think that the bearded guy next to Matt Clifford looks like film director Sam Mendes? Especially in the pic without his sunglasses on.

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Does anyone else think that the bearded guy next to Matt Clifford looks like film director Sam Mendes? Especially in the pic without his sunglasses on.

It is Sam Mendes. He's a massive cricket fan.

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Isn't that also his eldest, Karis, in the bottom left.

I'm with your there, Sighunt



And also his son James in front of her.

And Karis' children, Mick's grandchildren, Maisie (next to Karis) and Zak (next to James). Happy family times!

And brother Chris next to Mick

Stop and think about this for a second: Just about everyone on this board at one time or another via purchase of albums, CDs, concert tickets, various merchandise (t shirts, jackets, hats, etc) has contributed to making Sir Mick (a very successful) man of wealth and taste. Let's give ourselves a round applause!

I'm with you there Sighunt



I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

And again no Keith in attendance.

I don't think Keith goes to a whole lot of cricket matches to begin with.



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I don't think Keith goes to a whole lot of cricket matches to begin with.

And he lives across the Atlantic, of course I hardly think flying all that way, aged 79, only to attend a party until the early hours, is the 'thing' to do for an elderly gentleman. 30 years ago, perhaps. Besides: hasn't Keith said before that he hates night clubs?

edit: oh, we're referencing the cricket here, aren't we? Not Mick's birthday bash. Yes, I can't see Keith at a cricket match, either. That's a Mick and Bill Wyman thing.

Mick's joined Leonardo Di Caprio, on the latter's extended summer break.

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Sorry, I didn't spot your post!

I hope Toby Maguire doesn't get too jealous, with Mick stealing Leonardo's time!

Even for a gossip magazine I must say that The Daily Mail is quite unflattering. They are not exactly piling up flatter on a platter, to quote a famous Jagger song...

Glanced through the gossip mag: Seems to be the usual mix of young fashion models and older male celebrities. One thing I noticed though: Seems like Jagger's ankle problem is either gone or much better.

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Glanced through the gossip mag: Seems to be the usual mix of young fashion models and older male celebrities. One thing I noticed though: Seems like Jagger's ankle problem is either gone or much better.

You could diagnose that from glancing through a gossip mag?

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Glanced through the gossip mag: Seems to be the usual mix of young fashion models and older male celebrities. One thing I noticed though: Seems like Jagger's ankle problem is either gone or much better.

You could diagnose that from glancing through a gossip mag?

Yep, if you look at the pictures he's stepping on and off boats and climbing ladders. With some assistance but nevertheless - that is not something you'll do with a severe injury.