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It's been quite a long while since I last listened to 40 Licks, though I do recollect that it contained a quite nice stereo-mix of It's All Over Now. I no-longer have this compilation in my current collection, and the only version of this song I normally listen to now, is the mono-mix from the Singles Collection. I don't recall whether the 1980's CD of 12x5 features the track in mono or stereo.
However, It's All Over Now is in stereo on 12x5 SACD-hibryd CD from 2002. Also it is present on:
More Hot Rocks 1 [London 820 515-2], West Germany and [London P25L 25049] or [London POCD 1929], Japan
Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass), UK version. [London P33L 25016], [London P25L 25039] and [London POCD 1919], Japan only.
Very insightful, ironbelly!
I think the stereo-mix is great, personally. You can really hear Brian's guitar.
Don't know if this helps, but on Apple music I read
Street Fighting Man - 50th Anniversary Edition / Remastered 2018
Shelter - Nothing
Satisfaction - Mono Version
Last Time - Mono Version
JJF - Mono Version
You Can't - Nothing
19th / Thumb / Fade Away / Shadow - Mono Version
Devil / Mother's Little Helper - Nothing
Rainbow - full version with intro
Cloud - Mono Version
Horses / Ruby / Paint it Black - Nothing
HTW - Mono Version
It's All Over Now - Mono Version (although it sounds if it is the stereo version)
Night Together - Nothing
C
Your tricks with popsicles, was kinda cute...
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And they mess the things up in description (as usual). See detailed post below.
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-28 03:21 by ironbelly.
I listened but I thought it was my pc ram or ethernet connection...
Dont think the vinyl had that issue.
So, can anyone who ordered vinyl check please?
No problems on my vinyl.
Don't worry, there won't be enough demand for a 21st year anniversary of a 40th Anniversary career retrospective. If you have the patience Black Friday or post Christmas will be the timing on this.
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Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: July 27, 2023 14:21
Quote
ironbelly
The situation with CD1 is a bit more complex. It seems that they utilized 2016 mono versions for many tracks. I am not sure about stereo, need to dig a bit more. It is quite possible they used versions that were prepared for 50th anniversary editions of TMSR, BB, LIB and related singles.
It's been quite a long while since I last listened to 40 Licks, though I do recollect that it contained a quite nice stereo-mix of It's All Over Now. I no-longer have this compilation in my current collection, and the only version of this song I normally listen to now, is the mono-mix from the Singles Collection. I don't recall whether the 1980's CD of 12x5 features the track in mono or stereo.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: July 27, 2023 15:07
No, both ABKCO and London (West German) CDs 12x5 from early/mid 80's are all mono.Quote
Big AlQuote
ironbelly
The situation with CD1 is a bit more complex. It seems that they utilized 2016 mono versions for many tracks. I am not sure about stereo, need to dig a bit more. It is quite possible they used versions that were prepared for 50th anniversary editions of TMSR, BB, LIB and related singles.
It's been quite a long while since I last listened to 40 Licks, though I do recollect that it contained a quite nice stereo-mix of It's All Over Now. I no-longer have this compilation in my current collection, and the only version of this song I normally listen to now, is the mono-mix from the Singles Collection. I don't recall whether the 1980's CD of 12x5 features the track in mono or stereo.
However, It's All Over Now is in stereo on 12x5 SACD-hibryd CD from 2002. Also it is present on:
More Hot Rocks 1 [London 820 515-2], West Germany and [London P25L 25049] or [London POCD 1929], Japan
Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass), UK version. [London P33L 25016], [London P25L 25039] and [London POCD 1919], Japan only.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: July 27, 2023 15:30
Quote
ironbellyNo, both ABKCO and London (West German) CDs 12x5 from early/mid 80's are all mono.Quote
Big AlQuote
ironbelly
The situation with CD1 is a bit more complex. It seems that they utilized 2016 mono versions for many tracks. I am not sure about stereo, need to dig a bit more. It is quite possible they used versions that were prepared for 50th anniversary editions of TMSR, BB, LIB and related singles.
It's been quite a long while since I last listened to 40 Licks, though I do recollect that it contained a quite nice stereo-mix of It's All Over Now. I no-longer have this compilation in my current collection, and the only version of this song I normally listen to now, is the mono-mix from the Singles Collection. I don't recall whether the 1980's CD of 12x5 features the track in mono or stereo.
However, It's All Over Now is in stereo on 12x5 SACD-hibryd CD from 2002. Also it is present on:
More Hot Rocks 1 [London 820 515-2], West Germany and [London P25L 25049] or [London POCD 1929], Japan
Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass), UK version. [London P33L 25016], [London P25L 25039] and [London POCD 1919], Japan only.
Very insightful, ironbelly!
I think the stereo-mix is great, personally. You can really hear Brian's guitar.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
rockerparis
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Date: July 27, 2023 17:43
THE ROLLING STONES Commemorative Ice Cream Van Tours London To Mark 'Forty Licks' Digital Release
Ice cxream 40 licks van
Ice cxream 40 licks van
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
liddas
()
Date: July 27, 2023 19:56
Quote
ironbelly
The situation with CD1 is a bit more complex. It seems that they utilized 2016 mono versions for many tracks. I am not sure about stereo, need to dig a bit more. It is quite possible they used versions that were prepared for 50th anniversary editions of TMSR, BB, LIB and related singles.
Don't know if this helps, but on Apple music I read
Street Fighting Man - 50th Anniversary Edition / Remastered 2018
Shelter - Nothing
Satisfaction - Mono Version
Last Time - Mono Version
JJF - Mono Version
You Can't - Nothing
19th / Thumb / Fade Away / Shadow - Mono Version
Devil / Mother's Little Helper - Nothing
Rainbow - full version with intro
Cloud - Mono Version
Horses / Ruby / Paint it Black - Nothing
HTW - Mono Version
It's All Over Now - Mono Version (although it sounds if it is the stereo version)
Night Together - Nothing
C
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 27, 2023 20:16
Your tricks with popsicles, was kinda cute...
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: July 27, 2023 20:19
The point is that it is hard to compare tracks in HD with tracks in 44kHz/16bit CDDA format using audacity or similar software. It is necessary to put everything on the same page. Or to trust your earsQuote
liddasQuote
ironbelly
The situation with CD1 is a bit more complex. It seems that they utilized 2016 mono versions for many tracks. I am not sure about stereo, need to dig a bit more. It is quite possible they used versions that were prepared for 50th anniversary editions of TMSR, BB, LIB and related singles.
Don't know if this helps, but on Apple music I read
Street Fighting Man - 50th Anniversary Edition / Remastered 2018
Shelter - Nothing
Satisfaction - Mono Version
Last Time - Mono Version
JJF - Mono Version
You Can't - Nothing
19th / Thumb / Fade Away / Shadow - Mono Version
Devil / Mother's Little Helper - Nothing
Rainbow - full version with intro
Cloud - Mono Version
Horses / Ruby / Paint it Black - Nothing
HTW - Mono Version
It's All Over Now - Mono Version (although it sounds if it is the stereo version)
Night Together - Nothing
C
.And they mess the things up in description (as usual). See detailed post below.
[iorr.org]
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-28 03:21 by ironbelly.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
CrosseyedHeart
()
Date: July 27, 2023 20:44
“Stealing My Heart” is excellent!
“I thought you were dinner, but you were the shark.”
Love it!
“I thought you were dinner, but you were the shark.”
Love it!
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: July 28, 2023 00:21
OK, this is what I got for CD1. Apparently descriptions on spotify and qobuz were messed up.
01. Street Fighting Man (50th Anniversary Edition / Remastered 2018, Beggars Banquet) (3:16)
02. Gimme Shelter (50th Anniversary Edition / Remastered 2019 Let It Bleed) (4:33)
03. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (Mono Version 2016) (3:44)
04. The Last Time (Mono Version 2016) (3:42)
05. Jumpin' Jack Flash (Stereo Version, See e.q. Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022)) (3:43)
06. You Can't Always Get What You Want (Stereo Version, See e.q. Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022) or 50th Anniversary edition / Remastered 2019 Let It Bleed) (7:30)
07. 19th Nervous Breakdown (Mono Version 2016) (3:58)
08. Under My Thumb (Stereo Version, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022))(3:42)
09. Not Fade Away (Mono Version 2016) (1:50)
10. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow? (Mono Version 2016) (2:37)
11. Sympathy For The Devil (Stereo Version, See e.q. Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022) or 50th Anniversary edition / Remastered 2018, Beggars Banquet)(6:18)
12. Mother's Little Helper (Mono Version 2016) (2:48)
13. She's A Rainbow (Stereo Version, 50th Anniversary edition of The Rolling Stones - Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. 2) [UICY-79023]) WITHOUT CARNIVAL INTRO (4:13)
14. Get Off Of My Cloud (Mono Version, 2016) (2:57)
15. Wild Horses (Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022), originated from 2002 tape transfer)(5:45)
16. Ruby Tuesday (Stereo Version, Correct version with extra overdub in coda, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022)) (3:18)
17. Paint It, Black (Stereo Version, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022))(3:23)
18. Honky Tonk Women (Stereo Version, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022) ) (3:01)
19. It's All Over Now (Stereo Version, unknown source) (3:28)
20. Let's Spend The Night Together (Stereo Version, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022)) (3:36)
Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022) came with unique new remaster (as well as Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. 2) [UICY-79023]), not equivalent to 2002.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-28 03:09 by ironbelly.
01. Street Fighting Man (50th Anniversary Edition / Remastered 2018, Beggars Banquet) (3:16)
02. Gimme Shelter (50th Anniversary Edition / Remastered 2019 Let It Bleed) (4:33)
03. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (Mono Version 2016) (3:44)
04. The Last Time (Mono Version 2016) (3:42)
05. Jumpin' Jack Flash (Stereo Version, See e.q. Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022)) (3:43)
06. You Can't Always Get What You Want (Stereo Version, See e.q. Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022) or 50th Anniversary edition / Remastered 2019 Let It Bleed) (7:30)
07. 19th Nervous Breakdown (Mono Version 2016) (3:58)
08. Under My Thumb (Stereo Version, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022))(3:42)
09. Not Fade Away (Mono Version 2016) (1:50)
10. Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow? (Mono Version 2016) (2:37)
11. Sympathy For The Devil (Stereo Version, See e.q. Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022) or 50th Anniversary edition / Remastered 2018, Beggars Banquet)(6:18)
12. Mother's Little Helper (Mono Version 2016) (2:48)
13. She's A Rainbow (Stereo Version, 50th Anniversary edition of The Rolling Stones - Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. 2) [UICY-79023]) WITHOUT CARNIVAL INTRO (4:13)
14. Get Off Of My Cloud (Mono Version, 2016) (2:57)
15. Wild Horses (Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022), originated from 2002 tape transfer)(5:45)
16. Ruby Tuesday (Stereo Version, Correct version with extra overdub in coda, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022)) (3:18)
17. Paint It, Black (Stereo Version, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022))(3:23)
18. Honky Tonk Women (Stereo Version, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022) ) (3:01)
19. It's All Over Now (Stereo Version, unknown source) (3:28)
20. Let's Spend The Night Together (Stereo Version, Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022)) (3:36)
Hot Rocks 1964-1971 2CD [UICY-79767-8] (2022) came with unique new remaster (as well as Through The Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. 2) [UICY-79023]), not equivalent to 2002.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-28 03:09 by ironbelly.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: July 28, 2023 02:49
My god, all this for a rehashed Greatest Hits package. Nothing new except some tweaks around the edges.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: July 28, 2023 03:20
With the lack of an actual new album, anything from the Stones seems to appease some fans at this point - even the silly lyric videos of tunes from the distant past.
As for the 40 Licks? It was a fun theme for the 40 Licks tour, and gave them reason to tour, but otherwise didn't really offer much other than several new bland/mediocre tunes.
That being said, Losing My Touch is a genuinely classic Keith/Stones tune ...one for the ages imo...deep, and thought provoking. Hope for another one of this quality some day - whether solo or with the Stones.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
As for the 40 Licks? It was a fun theme for the 40 Licks tour, and gave them reason to tour, but otherwise didn't really offer much other than several new bland/mediocre tunes.
That being said, Losing My Touch is a genuinely classic Keith/Stones tune ...one for the ages imo...deep, and thought provoking. Hope for another one of this quality some day - whether solo or with the Stones.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Blueranger
()
Date: July 28, 2023 03:57
I think it’s noce to finally have it on vinyl.
And at a decent price.
And at a decent price.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: July 28, 2023 10:11
Was the 'early-fade' edit of Paint it, Black only initially released on the U.S. Aftermath, or the London single, also? The DECCA single clocks-in at around 3.44
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: July 28, 2023 14:05
The digital release from 26-Jul-2023 has an mastering issue with 'Losing My Touch' (Track 20 / Disc 2) - there're dropouts at positions 4m:38s, 4m:40s, 4m:47s. It's e.g. on [open.Spotify.com] and Qobuz.
You can hear these dropouts also on [www.YouTube.com] .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-28 15:20 by Irix.
You can hear these dropouts also on [www.YouTube.com] .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-28 15:20 by Irix.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 28, 2023 14:15
perhaps we got it wrong and the record is just there to promote the popsicle
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: July 28, 2023 14:28
Don't tell it to those, who ordered vinylQuote
Irix
The digital release from 26-Jul-2023 has an mastering issue with 'Losing My Touch' (Track 20 / Disc 2) - there're dropouts at positions 4m:38s, 4m:40s, 4m:47s. It's e.g. on [open.Spotify.com] and Qobuz.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
rogerriffin
()
Date: July 28, 2023 14:36
Quote
Irix
The digital release from 26-Jul-2023 has an mastering issue with 'Losing My Touch' (Track 20 / Disc 2) - there're dropouts at positions 4m:38s, 4m:40s, 4m:47s. It's e.g. on [open.Spotify.com] and Qobuz.
I listened but I thought it was my pc ram or ethernet connection...
Dont think the vinyl had that issue.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: July 28, 2023 14:40
If vinyl was cut from that digital source - it will have.Quote
rogerriffinQuote
Irix
The digital release from 26-Jul-2023 has an mastering issue with 'Losing My Touch' (Track 20 / Disc 2) - there're dropouts at positions 4m:38s, 4m:40s, 4m:47s. It's e.g. on [open.Spotify.com] and Qobuz.
I listened but I thought it was my pc ram or ethernet connection...
Dont think the vinyl had that issue.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
GivenToFly15
()
Date: July 28, 2023 17:13
Quote
ironbellyIf vinyl was cut from that digital source - it will have.Quote
rogerriffinQuote
Irix
The digital release from 26-Jul-2023 has an mastering issue with 'Losing My Touch' (Track 20 / Disc 2) - there're dropouts at positions 4m:38s, 4m:40s, 4m:47s. It's e.g. on [open.Spotify.com] and Qobuz.
I listened but I thought it was my pc ram or ethernet connection...
Dont think the vinyl had that issue.
So, can anyone who ordered vinyl check please?
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
UrbanSteel
()
Date: July 28, 2023 19:54
Quote
GivenToFly15Quote
ironbellyIf vinyl was cut from that digital source - it will have.Quote
rogerriffinQuote
Irix
The digital release from 26-Jul-2023 has an mastering issue with 'Losing My Touch' (Track 20 / Disc 2) - there're dropouts at positions 4m:38s, 4m:40s, 4m:47s. It's e.g. on [open.Spotify.com] and Qobuz.
I listened but I thought it was my pc ram or ethernet connection...
Dont think the vinyl had that issue.
So, can anyone who ordered vinyl check please?
No problems on my vinyl.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Blueranger
()
Date: July 28, 2023 20:04
Can’t hear any trouble on my vinyl either.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Monkeytonkman
()
Date: July 28, 2023 23:39
Went to Coventry today and got my copy of Licks on Vinyl.
Been a long time coming, have wanted this in my collection since its original release.
Got it on the stereo now. Happy Days
Looking forward to finally hear the new tracks on vinyl at last, over twenty years later.
Keep on Rocking, Don't Stop Rollin'
\m/
Been a long time coming, have wanted this in my collection since its original release.
Got it on the stereo now. Happy Days
Looking forward to finally hear the new tracks on vinyl at last, over twenty years later.
Keep on Rocking, Don't Stop Rollin'
\m/
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Spud
()
Date: July 31, 2023 10:55
I always lamented that it wasn't available on vinyl for so many years...but now it's too bloody expensive !
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
StonedRambler
()
Date: July 31, 2023 13:34
The '2023 Remaster' of Losing My Touch has some really obvious audio drop outs at 4:38 and 4:40.
Didn't someone listen to it before they put it out?
Edit: Was already posted by Irix above.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-31 13:35 by StonedRambler.
Didn't someone listen to it before they put it out?
Edit: Was already posted by Irix above.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-31 13:35 by StonedRambler.
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Whale
()
Date: July 31, 2023 16:01
so does the vinyl record have the audio dropout on losing my touch?
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: July 31, 2023 17:00
The Qobuz customer support says regarding the dropouts: "I reported the album to the product team. The team will ask the label for a fixed recording."
Re: Forty Licks talks
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 31, 2023 17:05
Quote
Spud
I always lamented that it wasn't available on vinyl for so many years...but now it's too bloody expensive !
Don't worry, there won't be enough demand for a 21st year anniversary of a 40th Anniversary career retrospective. If you have the patience Black Friday or post Christmas will be the timing on this.
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