Honestly people, I've been a fan since 12 and I'm now 46. I started with Hotrocks, and bought every Stones album since and went to a show from every tour since 75.
A Bigger Bang is really a bore. There isn't one song I want to learn on guitar and that tells me something. Sorry guys, time to pack it in if this is what you have to offer us.

You´re just old & tired. Bad for you.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-12-02 12:04 by Baboon Bro.

You may be right, you just may be right

Ney, sorry. But are you sure you mean this... ?
The rock genre is difficult to master in songwriting after, say 40-45-50 years of age, if you ask me. The connections in the brain goes slower & in a more simpolistic way... Must be tough for Jagger to go from the stock market pahges directly to his wirting corner, dont you think?

I think it has more than we could expect.

Forligan: WOOT!!!!

You don't like it? Best album since VL IMO. And VL is the best since Exile. So it's pretty high IMO. It's a great one.

If my name was Gollum I'd call it my precious..........

JumpingKentFlash

The show is great, almost too perfect, but you'll have a blast,just get drunk so it has some seediness to it.

<There isn't one song I want to learn on guitar and that tells me something>

Can't agree to that. IMO, there are some songs that are interesting for guitar players:

She Saw Me Coming - Great riff, great fills by Ronnie.

This Place Is Empty - Always exciting to hear studio recordings of Keith's acoustic guitars.

BUT: This is not a guitar album. The album focuses more on the song (and that suits the band good IMO).

well they are 20 years older and more inventive then you are.....

Agree with you 100%, forligan. I am also from your generation and I do also play amateur guit.
Anything else I like to spin in rock solicitates picking up my steel string acoustic at least once in a while and try to figure out the chords. For me, that's a bit of what RnR is about (to various extent of course... you don't have to play an instrument either)
If you want to read my opinion on aBB - and I haven't changed my mind yet - you may search the keywords "adventure" or "wandering".

forligan wrote:

A bigger bang is bust.


I don't know about that, but a bigger bust can lead to a bang!

It's really easy to use the 68-72 era as a ruler with this band. And with every album that followed them they usually averaged a B in my eyes. I admit there's been a lot of filler on the last 3 albums mainly because of the requirements to fill out a 70 minute cd rather than a forty minute album. But when I hear ROUGH JUSTICE or RAIN FELL DOWN or even LOOK WHAT THE CAT DRAGGED IN, I know they haven't lost it. And despite a tired setlist at the shows, this is a band that still has a lot of life in them.

If anything ABB has only grown on me with repeated listens.
I would consider it an excellent Stones album, right up
there with many of their seventies efforts.

The songwriting and playing are great. It is varied, it can
really rock.Had it come out back in the day it would've been an
enormous hit, at least on par with SG.

Unfortunately, the main Stones age group is not the big music
buying demograph anymore, so it may very well not earn the sales
it deserves. But if one likes the Stones that shouldn't matter.

I'm sure it will remain a big favourite of mine, and I'm sure
many others on this board for years to come.

I'd even go so far as to consider it album of the
year,in my books. Would anyone else agree?

forligan Wrote:
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> Honestly people, I've been a fan since 12 and I'm
> now 46. I started with Hotrocks, and bought every
> Stones album since and went to a show from every
> tour since 75.
> A Bigger Bang is really a bore. There isn't one
> song I want to learn on guitar and that tells me
> something. Sorry guys, time to pack it in if this
> is what you have to offer us.


See, I've been saying this since the day that piece of crap came out. Mind you, it's better than Bridges to Boredomland. It has two good songs on it, as opposed to one.

jumpin kent wrote:


>Best album since VL IMO



it's only the second studio album since then.

Nikolai..... are you mutton or something?......

C'mon folks, no matter what. It's pretty damn unbelieveble that they're still able to put out an album like aBB after more than 40 years of the best damn rock 'n' roll on this sad planet!

Who else has done that?

doodoodoodoodoo Wrote:
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> It's really easy to use the 68-72 era as a ruler
> with this band. And with every album that followed
> them they usually averaged a B in my eyes. I admit
> there's been a lot of filler on the last 3 albums
> mainly because of the requirements to fill out a
> 70 minute cd rather than a forty minute album. But
> when I hear ROUGH JUSTICE or RAIN FELL DOWN or
> even LOOK WHAT THE CAT DRAGGED IN, I know they
> haven't lost it. And despite a tired setlist at
> the shows, this is a band that still has a lot of
> life in them.

I would like to add "Biggest Mistake"

and i would like to add laugh,i nearly died! and oh no not you again! and what about back of my hand??

Who the f*ck is Mick Jagger?

There's so much energy in the album as if they were at the beginning of their career. They still make the sexiest music. Now that's quite an achievement when you are over sixty and you've been writing great songs for incredible forty years.
Great lyrics, they're still lascivious, and sometimes as sincere as never before... what more do you need. Great guitars, the sound is so rough and... young. I was smiling like an idiot when I heard the riff to She Saw Me Coming blasting for the first time. The Stones' music is absolutely unbeatable.

As long as this stuff is what they have to offer us, I'm more than perfectly happy, I'm blown away. If you don't like it, bad for you, but it doesn't mean the Stones should pack it in, does it? Sorry guy.

I love ABB--can't put it down--blows doors on the previous 4 or 5 Stones studio albums but it doesn't have the vibe of '68-'78, sure. Check out the guitar work on Look What The Cat Dragged In.

The Vikings made their own version of ABB, mixed in some of the material from Alfie, like Old Habits Die hard, both versions, fitted like a glove. I played our 18 song version on one of my companys after-works. Nobody told me to turn it down or off.But of couse they know how strong my love is, and they would not dare go against me... I think ABB is an excellent Stonesalbum, altough a bit heavy on the Jaggerside, but hey, we got a new album after 8 years, right?

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

"a bit heavy on the Jaggerside"
Could it be that Mick has probably more creativity left than Keith? I think so. Yeah, most songs and lyrics seem to have been written by Mick, but you can hardly "blame" him, can you? It's mainly him who keeps the band going on such a high level nowadays, that's out of doubt.

Very well said 'Smiling Sun'!

I couldn't agree more -- ABB is an excellent album,vital,vibrant and raunchy in all the right places! I'm delighted with it,and,would rank it up there with great seventies albums like 'Some Girls' and 'Black and Blue'.

Besides 2 or 3 fillers,it's full of wonderful songs -- RJ,BOMH,RFD,ONNYA,TPIE,SSMC,LIND,DB,Under the Radar...Great variety and great sounds. It is astonishing that a band who've been around for 43 years can make an album that simply sounds THIS good! Major kudos to the band,they've still got it*





smilingsun Wrote:
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> There's so much energy in the album as if they
> were at the beginning of their career. They still
> make the sexiest music. Now that's quite an
> achievement when you are over sixty and you've
> been writing great songs for incredible forty
> years.
> Great lyrics, they're still lascivious, and
> sometimes as sincere as never before... what more
> do you need. Great guitars, the sound is so rough
> and... young. I was smiling like an idiot when I
> heard the riff to She Saw Me Coming blasting for
> the first time. The Stones' music is absolutely
> unbeatable.
>
> As long as this stuff is what they have to offer
> us, I'm more than perfectly happy, I'm blown away.
> If you don't like it, bad for you, but it doesn't
> mean the Stones should pack it in, does it? Sorry
> guy.
>

davido Wrote:
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> If anything ABB has only grown on me with repeated
> listens.
> I would consider it an excellent Stones album,
> right up
> there with many of their seventies efforts.
>
> The songwriting and playing are great. It is
> varied, it can
> really rock.Had it come out back in the day it
> would've been an
> enormous hit, at least on par with SG.
>
> Unfortunately, the main Stones age group is not
> the big music
> buying demograph anymore, so it may very well not
> earn the sales
> it deserves. But if one likes the Stones that
> shouldn't matter.
>
> I'm sure it will remain a big favourite of mine,
> and I'm sure
> many others on this board for years to come.
>
> I'd even go so far as to consider it album of the
> year,in my books. Would anyone else agree?

Amen, brother. I agree 100%. The opening riff in Rough Justice alone is worth the price of admission. ABB is a classic, their best since Some Girls in '78.

I really don't understand why people make their own "A Better Bang". The Stones put out ABB so that's what they want you to listen to. You wouldn't mix in Jagger solo stuff on Dirty Work would ya'?

JumpingKentFlash

>> The show is great, almost too perfect,

I don't want a great show, I will great music! If I need a show I go to Las Vegas or into the circus.

Well then, I must conclude you have bad taste in music!

ABB is easily the best album since Tattoo. I have been listening to it since it came out in early September and it holds up extremely well.
It really boggles my mind when I hear other die hard fans ripping it apart...Are we listening to the same cd. Were you really expecting a Beggars to Exile piece?
ABB is solid...and very very good for 2005.

ABB is a great album but what has been missing is a Start me up song kind of intro. Keith has maybe lost those magical riffs. Maybe they put in the forefront at first the wrong choice. If I have not been listening to Dirty Works, BTB for years, this album compares well to Some Girls.