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I was at the 3/20/86 show at Hampton too, Stonestein. I got backstage that night, but was out in the middle of the floor in front of the soundboard when Bob Weir said “now we’re going to prove that practice makes perfect” and they launched into Box Of Rain, eliciting a collective orgasmic reaction from the crowd. It was the first set closer, though, not the encore that night.
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The Rolling Stones already stepped into the ‘Vegas’ realm in 1981 before morphing into the post-89, fully-fledged modern Stones. The pre-arranged encore was part of that procedure.
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The Rolling Stones already stepped into the ‘Vegas’ realm in 1981 before morphing into the post-89, fully-fledged modern Stones. The pre-arranged encore was part of that procedure.
I agree with you, RisingStone, but the erratic quality of performances from night to night suggests that their initial "Vegas" phase was approached with a certain "cavalier" (perhaps cocaine-fueled?) attitude until, IMO, it was 1989 before they acted like true grownups. As Bono once was quoted - "In the 80s, rock and roll woke up and put on its jogging shoes."
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The Rolling Stones already stepped into the ‘Vegas’ realm in 1981 before morphing into the post-89, fully-fledged modern Stones. The pre-arranged encore was part of that procedure.
I agree with you, RisingStone, but the erratic quality of performances from night to night suggests that their initial "Vegas" phase was approached with a certain "cavalier" (perhaps cocaine-fueled?) attitude until, IMO, it was 1989 before they acted like true grownups. As Bono once was quoted - "In the 80s, rock and roll woke up and put on its jogging shoes."
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The Joker
As for the Stones, did the fist encore take place in 1972 with the "Wonder" Satisfaction? And then in 1975 on SFD with Santana?
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As for the Stones, did the fist encore take place in 1972 with the "Wonder" Satisfaction? And then in 1975 on SFD with Santana?
See the list on page 2 of this thread. Their first encore on record is Let It Rock in Liverpool, both early and late shows, 12 March, 1971.
Which show(s) did you attend where they didn’t give an encore, the place and the date?
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As for the Stones, did the fist encore take place in 1972 with the "Wonder" Satisfaction? And then in 1975 on SFD with Santana?
See the list on page 2 of this thread. Their first encore on record is Let It Rock in Liverpool, both early and late shows, 12 March, 1971.
Which show(s) did you attend where they didn’t give an encore, the place and the date?
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. Brussels 17 october 1973, first show
. Paris 1976 : attended two shows among four, I think it was shows 3 and 4
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As for the Stones, did the fist encore take place in 1972 with the "Wonder" Satisfaction? And then in 1975 on SFD with Santana?
See the list on page 2 of this thread. Their first encore on record is Let It Rock in Liverpool, both early and late shows, 12 March, 1971.
Which show(s) did you attend where they didn’t give an encore, the place and the date?
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. Brussels 17 october 1973, first show
. Paris 1976 : attended two shows among four, I think it was shows 3 and 4
So you attended ‘The Brussels Affair’ and both televised shows — lucky you!
I have a guess, naturally, the audience wanted more and clapped their hands when the group walked off from the stage. Did they complain when the lights were turned on eventually, or just head for the exit like lambs?
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Cannot say. Brussels, I was knocked out, in awe...
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The Joker
In the cartoon-esque, rock fantasy of the seventies, the Stones were princes of darkness
Princes of darkness don't lower themselves in bows and encore.
They bloody whiped you with Street Fighting Man and hasta la vista baby
First time I witness a Stones'encore I thought: how humiliating, what a cliché, so much déjà vu.
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In the cartoon-esque, rock fantasy of the seventies, the Stones were princes of darkness
Princes of darkness don't lower themselves in bows and encore.
They bloody whiped you with Street Fighting Man and hasta la vista baby
First time I witness a Stones'encore I thought: how humiliating, what a cliché, so much déjà vu.
I’m just thinking. They still did encores at quite a few shows in New York, LA and, to a lesser extent, London in the 70’s.
Did the princes of darkness succumb to the favoritism?
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On a similar topic
Keith's mini set inside a Stones show
. First: Happy during STP 1972. Mick stayed on stage, and half-stealed Keith's lead vocals. So you have Keith's material, and Mick doesn't stop fooling around. Brothers in arm. This goes until 1978 - Some Girls tour.
. 1981-82 : there is a rumour. Mick and Keith were so at odds that some clause in the contract would make Mick's exit compulsory during Keith' mini set.
. Modern area: Keith's mini set is not only a treat, but also an opportunity for Mick to rest. In fact, when Mick has some voice issue, Keith may play three songs instead of two.
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RisingStone
For the fans who attended the New York and LA shows in 1972 and 1975, unlike most of the other regions. encore was a given. They demanded it as a matter of course and their expectation was fulfilled. It is easy to imagine when the Stones did not give an encore at the MSG on 26 June, 1975, the only ‘no encore’ show during these residencies, fans booed, feeling shortchanged.
The 1978 American tour was a different animal. The Stones didn’t do an encore either in New York (at the Palladium, a small 2,000 seater) or in LA (at the Anaheim Stadium). They did instead in a sundry of choice locations, e.g. Passaic, NJ, and Boulder, Co. These may well have been ‘real’ encores, rather than pre-arranged.
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For the fans who attended the New York and LA shows in 1972 and 1975, unlike most of the other regions. encore was a given. They demanded it as a matter of course and their expectation was fulfilled. It is easy to imagine when the Stones did not give an encore at the MSG on 26 June, 1975, the only ‘no encore’ show during these residencies, fans booed, feeling shortchanged.
The 1978 American tour was a different animal. The Stones didn’t do an encore either in New York (at the Palladium, a small 2,000 seater) or in LA (at the Anaheim Stadium). They did instead in a sundry of choice locations, e.g. Passaic, NJ, and Boulder, Co. These may well have been ‘real’ encores, rather than pre-arranged.
I was at Boulder & it didn't seem pre-planned. Also, the crowd had to sit through a pretty severe storm between Kansas & the Stones. My first Stones show!
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For the fans who attended the New York and LA shows in 1972 and 1975, unlike most of the other regions. encore was a given. They demanded it as a matter of course and their expectation was fulfilled. It is easy to imagine when the Stones did not give an encore at the MSG on 26 June, 1975, the only ‘no encore’ show during these residencies, fans booed, feeling shortchanged.
The 1978 American tour was a different animal. The Stones didn’t do an encore either in New York (at the Palladium, a small 2,000 seater) or in LA (at the Anaheim Stadium). They did instead in a sundry of choice locations, e.g. Passaic, NJ, and Boulder, Co. These may well have been ‘real’ encores, rather than pre-arranged.
I was at Boulder & it didn't seem pre-planned. Also, the crowd had to sit through a pretty severe storm between Kansas & the Stones. My first Stones show!
I wonder if they rewarded the fans with an ad hoc encore for persevering with the foul weather.
And you traveled all the way from the Northwest to Colorado to catch the Stones live? That was quite an adventure for a young first timer, wasn’t it? Carry on, wayward son!
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For the fans who attended the New York and LA shows in 1972 and 1975, unlike most of the other regions. encore was a given. They demanded it as a matter of course and their expectation was fulfilled. It is easy to imagine when the Stones did not give an encore at the MSG on 26 June, 1975, the only ‘no encore’ show during these residencies, fans booed, feeling shortchanged.
The 1978 American tour was a different animal. The Stones didn’t do an encore either in New York (at the Palladium, a small 2,000 seater) or in LA (at the Anaheim Stadium). They did instead in a sundry of choice locations, e.g. Passaic, NJ, and Boulder, Co. These may well have been ‘real’ encores, rather than pre-arranged.
I was at Boulder & it didn't seem pre-planned. Also, the crowd had to sit through a pretty severe storm between Kansas & the Stones. My first Stones show!
I wonder if they rewarded the fans with an ad hoc encore for persevering with the foul weather.
And you traveled all the way from the Northwest to Colorado to catch the Stones live? That was quite an adventure for a young first timer, wasn’t it? Carry on, wayward son!
I've told this story before but it's worth repeating. In 1978 I was 17 & had been "awoken" musically 2 years before by Jeff Beck when he opened for Aerosmith. I was really heavily into the Stones by 1978. As you know, the Some Girls tour didn't really have that many dates & the closest was either Denver or the Bay area. At this point it really looked like the Canadians were going to toss Keith in jail for a significant amount of time. Well, I had to see the Stones at least once in my life so I conned my parents into letting me go to Boulder to see them. I still don't know how I pulled that one off. In many ways that was the best time I saw the Stones. They were still very stripped down compared with what was to come. It was totally worth the trip. Since then I've travelled to Portland, Vancouver & Vegas several times for them & seen them in all sizes of venue from club to stadiums. That show in Boulder also had Eddie Money & more importantly for me Peter Tosh open. It was a fantastic day!