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Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Cooltoplady ()
Date: July 2, 2022 17:45

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Is that video with the sailor suits and bubbles the same backing track as the album but with different Jagger vocals?

+ new Keith guitar.

Strange that they made a separate version for a music video.

Why do you say that? They'd started that back in 1973 and it ended in 1978.



Or 1983, with She Was Hot.

Mathijs

Not sure I follow. The IORR music video wasn’t released until 1978/83?

It was released on Don Kershner’s in 1974.

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: TravelinMan ()
Date: July 2, 2022 20:01

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He probably means that they had different versions (mostly redone vocals) on their music videos between 1973 and 1978.

She Was Hot was merely a different edit than the studio version, though.

I see. What’s the point of that? They’ve also had videos with the original backing track.

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: TravelinMan ()
Date: July 2, 2022 20:02

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Is that video with the sailor suits and bubbles the same backing track as the album but with different Jagger vocals?

+ new Keith guitar.

Strange that they made a separate version for a music video.

Why do you say that? They'd started that back in 1973 and it ended in 1978.



Or 1983, with She Was Hot.

Mathijs

Not sure I follow. The IORR music video wasn’t released until 1978/83?

It was released on Don Kershner’s in 1974.

Thanks, I figured it was released around that time.

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Date: July 2, 2022 21:47

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Just checked his wikipedia page, pretty impressive resume. In the 70s he worked with the Stones, Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Bad Company, The Who, Status Quo, Black Sabbath and Traffic!

Yet... he lies.

Yes, I get that too. That is why I asked in the title of thread what you guys thought of it. It's a long interview, in several tube clips, and he definitely was there, in the inner circle. More than any of us can probably say. yet, I get the feeling that he is overplaying his hand.
Most of what we know about the song IORR is from Wood, Keith, Jagger. You simply can not get any deeper inside knowledge than that. But Keith loves a good story.
This whole thing he says about the drums, or the title not being something you'd say. ??? In this age of youtube, and endless re-issues, so many people jump on it, and try to create an issue, where there is no issue.

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: July 3, 2022 18:46

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He probably means that they had different versions (mostly redone vocals) on their music videos between 1973 and 1978.

She Was Hot was merely a different edit than the studio version, though.

Well, an extra verse and a different mix and a longer outro.

Mathijs

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Date: July 3, 2022 21:34

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He probably means that they had different versions (mostly redone vocals) on their music videos between 1973 and 1978.

She Was Hot was merely a different edit than the studio version, though.

Well, an extra verse and a different mix and a longer outro.

Mathijs

Was it really a different mix, or merely the same mix with some effects (telephone ringing, buttons popping) added? It's been a while..

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: July 4, 2022 05:58

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He probably means that they had different versions (mostly redone vocals) on their music videos between 1973 and 1978.

She Was Hot was merely a different edit than the studio version, though.

Well, an extra verse and a different mix and a longer outro.

Mathijs

Was it really a different mix, or merely the same mix with some effects (telephone ringing, buttons popping) added? It's been a while..

Oh no, they absolutely meant to have a phone ringing and buttons popping in the original mix! Pouring rain, the sound of a blank TV, the sound of lightning (thunder), the sound of a human zoo - all in the original mix that was edited for the LP version!!!!

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: July 4, 2022 06:35

It's also sped up so we get Mick sounding a bit like Alvin & The Chipmunks.

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: July 4, 2022 06:38

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the title of this led me to expect a rant of some sort about us starting unneccessary duplicate threads and such

That was funny!

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: July 4, 2022 06:44

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When Franco banned Sticky Fingers in Spain I suggested they use a can of molasses with a severed hand coming out of it. Totally true.

Treacle, like Tapani Tapaneinen, fails to mention their use of sensory deprivation isolation tanks and psychoactive drugs to travel back in time and rewrite history. It's more common than you think.

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: chevysales ()
Date: July 4, 2022 08:00

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I don’t trust this guy’s memory. Also, a second engineer shouldn’t be saying shit to Ian Stewart lol[/quote

Agree 100%. The man was a second engineer. What else has he done does anyone know? For comparison sake?

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: July 4, 2022 11:27

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He probably means that they had different versions (mostly redone vocals) on their music videos between 1973 and 1978.

She Was Hot was merely a different edit than the studio version, though.

Well, an extra verse and a different mix and a longer outro.

Mathijs

Was it really a different mix, or merely the same mix with some effects (telephone ringing, buttons popping) added? It's been a while..

Its a different mix, more piano playing, the organ is missing, some guitars here and there are different, and Jagger's overdubs are different and some missing.

Mathijs

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: July 4, 2022 13:11

There is a great 7 minute long version of She Was Hot on YouTube

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 4, 2022 14:02

damn it i only got 11 hours ta spare ....
not gonna have time ta groove to the fade-out



ROCKMAN

Re: remarks from Assistant Engineer on IORR
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: July 5, 2022 11:36

In the new BBC documentary they show the original Wick tapes of IORR, dated March 1973. It could be they all went back to London after the Winter tour, and spent the month recording and partying in Wood's house. And (in my opinion a bit unlikely), but it could be that they played around with the idea of IORR already in Jamaica in late 1972 -and then the Jagger/Richards credit is not so strange anymore as we always used to think.

Mathijs

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