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I can't stand either.
That's rare ;o)
Yes, I know. I'm an anomaly. Don't like Rambler. And think Shattered, Angie, and Beast of Burden are all amongst their worst songs. Not as bad as MAWGJ, but not far off.
Wow.
That's really something. Beast Of Burden, aside from its radio play, is outright brilliant.
Shattered is exceptional.
And as much as I don't like Angie, it's a killer tune.
AND you don't like Midnight Rambler?
Well, ok. But I think you're missing something elemental in regard to the Stones.
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And if there is one song that best defines them it would be JJF IMHO. I think Satisfaction is far from their best riff. JJF is a brutal onslaught start to finish.
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And if there is one song that best defines them it would be JJF IMHO. I think Satisfaction is far from their best riff. JJF is a brutal onslaught start to finish.
I’m afraid I may look like an idiot if I say this — am I the only one who thought the JJF riff sounded like a revamp or reuse of the Satisfaction riff on hearing it for the very first time?
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And if there is one song that best defines them it would be JJF IMHO. I think Satisfaction is far from their best riff. JJF is a brutal onslaught start to finish.
I’m afraid I may look like an idiot if I say this — am I the only one who thought the JJF riff sounded like a revamp or reuse of the Satisfaction riff on hearing it for the very first time?
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And if there is one song that best defines them it would be JJF IMHO. I think Satisfaction is far from their best riff. JJF is a brutal onslaught start to finish.
I’m afraid I may look like an idiot if I say this — am I the only one who thought the JJF riff sounded like a revamp or reuse of the Satisfaction riff on hearing it for the very first time?
I may be an idiot, but I am not that ignorant of this all too famous anecdote surrounding JJF. Here I’m taking about a first impression.
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For once I agree with Gas Light street. When someone says they prefer Baby Break it Down to Midnight Rambler, well, I’m speechless
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And if there is one song that best defines them it would be JJF IMHO. I think Satisfaction is far from their best riff. JJF is a brutal onslaught start to finish.
I’m afraid I may look like an idiot if I say this — am I the only one who thought the JJF riff sounded like a revamp or reuse of the Satisfaction riff on hearing it for the very first time?
I agree. It's almost always a killer version and a highlight of the show. But there's something uniquely eerie about the album version (and not just because it's one of the first couple of albums I ever bought).Quote
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I love both, in the studio and live. MR live is of course a killer, always red-hot and crushing, but the original LIB version still retains its cool, dark vibe that fascinates me after listening to numerous live renditions.
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And if there is one song that best defines them it would be JJF IMHO. I think Satisfaction is far from their best riff. JJF is a brutal onslaught start to finish.
I’m afraid I may look like an idiot if I say this — am I the only one who thought the JJF riff sounded like a revamp or reuse of the Satisfaction riff on hearing it for the very first time?
I may be an idiot, but I am not that ignorant of this all too famous anecdote surrounding JJF. Here I’m taking about a first impression.
I thought it was a common perception amongst most everyone that the JJF riff is basically Satisfaction turned around and upside down.
Give Bill some credit for JJF no doubt, but he basically used the blueprint of Satisfaction to begin with, so you gotta give credit where credit is due - it's really Keith.
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I thought it was a common perception amongst most everyone that the JJF riff is basically Satisfaction turned around and upside down.
Give Bill some credit for JJF no doubt, but he basically used the blueprint of Satisfaction to begin with, so you gotta give credit where credit is due - it's really Keith.
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GasLightStreet
Listen to the Satisfaction from 1969 - it was a bit revamped, essentially The Beatles' Drive My Car although modulated (they did similar with Dancing With Mr D). JJF is a kind of similar augmentation of that modulation, although, obviously, before they did Satisfaction in 1969 - and even JJF was completely different by then as well.
It SOUNDS that way. Is it? No telling.
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Sad Sad Sad is Brown Sugar inverted.
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The studio version is like a blueprint, and perfect by its own means. BRUSSELS '73 is like a final outcome and fullfilment of the potentiality of the song, like 'this is as far as you can go', perfect by its own means as well. If you add YA-YA'S and Roundhouse '71 there, you will see the greatest development of a rock song ever done.
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The studio version is like a blueprint, and perfect by its own means. BRUSSELS '73 is like a final outcome and fullfilment of the potentiality of the song, like 'this is as far as you can go', perfect by its own means as well. If you add YA-YA'S and Roundhouse '71 there, you will see the greatest development of a rock song ever done.
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GasLightStreet
I forget where or when but this same subject came up and, live, they've never done a poor performance of it. NEVER.
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I forget where or when but this same subject came up and, live, they've never done a poor performance of it. NEVER.
Knebworth 76 or Marquee 71 are not so great
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I forget where or when but this same subject came up and, live, they've never done a poor performance of it. NEVER.
Knebworth 76 or Marquee 71 are not so great
Hyde Park 1969 is a bit ragged as well
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I forget where or when but this same subject came up and, live, they've never done a poor performance of it. NEVER.
Knebworth 76 or Marquee 71 are not so great
Hyde Park 1969 is a bit ragged as well
Hyde Park 1969 is in my top 5
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Honestman
The studio version is priceless.From the very start, it almost sound live.
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The studio version is priceless.From the very start, it almost sound live.
To me it doesn't sound live at all which means huge and powerful. The LIB version sounds claustrophobic and twisted which adds to its nasty charm.
And overall LIB is a claustrophobic, twisted album, unlike BB. Only at the very end with "You Can't..." that you get to a glimpse of light and hope.
LIB is a very dark place to go to... that's why it's Keith's album mainly. Had "Morphine" been put on LIB in place of "Country Honk", this record would have been truly scary...
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The studio version is priceless.From the very start, it almost sound live.
To me it doesn't sound live at all which means huge and powerful. The LIB version sounds claustrophobic and twisted which adds to its nasty charm.
And overall LIB is a claustrophobic, twisted album, unlike BB. Only at the very end with "You Can't..." that you get to a glimpse of light and hope.
LIB is a very dark place to go to... that's why it's Keith's album mainly. Had "Morphine" been put on LIB in place of "Country Honk", this record would have been truly scary...
That's a very interesting, and sadly accurate assessment. I really like Let It Bleed, but I do find the terrain to be very dark, almost like it had to "one up" Beggars Banquet-which I much prefer over Let It Bleed, especially for its lighter overtones (Dear Doctor, Factory Girl). Great observations!