Seems the Stones are using a backing track for this song when played live these days? Am I correct, and if so....Why?!

They have a prerecorded percussion track...why? because it would sound pretty thin if they didn't have the percussion.

yeah this is definitely some news a scoop you might say

"These days"? They were using it for the last thirty years.

No way say it ain't so

I am not suggesting they don't have percussion, although the Ya's Ya's verison doesn't have any and it sounds excellent. My question is why it has to be pre-recorded? That is why I hear the Broadway references...wardrobe changes, backing track...well, Broadway might get offended as they use live music.

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I am not suggesting they don't have percussion, although the Ya's Ya's verison doesn't have any and it sounds excellent. My question is why it has to be pre-recorded? That is why I hear the Broadway references...wardrobe changes, backing track...well, Broadway might get offended as they use live music.

I guess it was one of those ideas back in 1989 when they started re-creating live versions close to originals. That suited to the technology and mindset at the time to make a fashy, modern show (like the things did for "2000 Light Years From Home", pretty much belonging to the same part of the show). Probably they liked how it worked, and haven't had second thoughts about it ever since.

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It's never sounded like the studio version. I thought they generally used it in order to give them time to get back from a B-stage, or just a further break off stage. I can't imagine anyone getting excited about hearing it live now. Just another obligation for the greatest hits crowd. There's no danger to it anymore. They didn't play it again regularly after the 1970 European tour until 1989. I guess Mick must still love doing it. He sure as hell won't stop, no matter how much we'd like to hear a different song.

In Hyde Park 69 they had back up percussionists. In 69/70 the song was highly rearragned, in 75/76 they had Ollie Brown on percussion. And since 89 they use prerecording track. I wonder if it's the same track.

There is a live version on Love You Live and it was played frequently during the 75/76 tours.

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It's never sounded like the studio version. I thought they generally used it in order to give them time to get back from a B-stage, or just a further break off stage. I can't imagine anyone getting excited about hearing it live now. Just another obligation for the greatest hits crowd. There's no danger to it anymore. They didn't play it again regularly after the 1970 European tour until 1989. I guess Mick must still love doing it. He sure as hell won't stop, no matter how much we'd like to hear a different song.

I love what Ollie Brown added. Bring him back in the fold!

I thought they might do something with in Cuba. No shortages of percussionists there.

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In Hyde Park 69 they had back up percussionists. In 69/70 the song was highly rearragned, in 75/76 they had Ollie Brown on percussion. And since 89 they use prerecording track. I wonder if it's the same track.

There's more than one version of the sample. In 2002/03 it was more in the way of a dance shuffle, in 05-07 it sounded more chonky if that makes sense

What is next...Pre-recorded cowbell for HTW?

You really do come across like you just found out about it. There's no progress in that direction going on and if it was it still wouldn't be of any concern next to the other changes they've had this year

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You really do come across like you just found out about it. There's no progress in that direction going on and if it was it still wouldn't be of any concern next to the other changes they've had this year

STOP!

Next thing you're going to say Blondie isn't playing under the stage anymore!

For what it's worth, they've updated the track a few times over the decades. The last few ones from recent tours have sounded more and more organic with the latest one on this tour sounding very natural and perhaps even tracked by actual musicians. Hard to say but still very effective.

If there's any song that can get pretty close to the studio track which always gets the crowd going it's this one...

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There is a live version on Love You Live and it was played frequently during the 75/76 tours.

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It's never sounded like the studio version. I thought they generally used it in order to give them time to get back from a B-stage, or just a further break off stage. I can't imagine anyone getting excited about hearing it live now. Just another obligation for the greatest hits crowd. There's no danger to it anymore. They didn't play it again regularly after the 1970 European tour until 1989. I guess Mick must still love doing it. He sure as hell won't stop, no matter how much we'd like to hear a different song.

Crap. I just looked at the L.A. Forum DVD tracklist. Sympathy for the Devil was the very last song. I never expected it to be in that position. I never thought of it as closing, or encore song.

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You really do come across like you just found out about it. There's no progress in that direction going on and if it was it still wouldn't be of any concern next to the other changes they've had this year

STOP!

Next thing you're going to say Blondie isn't playing under the stage anymore!

Hey Treacle, I've mentioned here a couple times when I saw them at BC Place in 06, I was on the floor to the left of the stage. Opening number I could clearly see Blondie sitting down behind the speakers near Chuck playing the guitar. I was surprised at how many songs he was playing guitar on. Can't believe that was 15 years ago now!

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There is a live version on Love You Live and it was played frequently during the 75/76 tours.

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24FPS
It's never sounded like the studio version. I thought they generally used it in order to give them time to get back from a B-stage, or just a further break off stage. I can't imagine anyone getting excited about hearing it live now. Just another obligation for the greatest hits crowd. There's no danger to it anymore. They didn't play it again regularly after the 1970 European tour until 1989. I guess Mick must still love doing it. He sure as hell won't stop, no matter how much we'd like to hear a different song.

Crap. I just looked at the L.A. Forum DVD tracklist. Sympathy for the Devil was the very last song. I never expected it to be in that position. I never thought of it as closing, or encore song.

See also No Security tour 1999.

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Nikkei
You really do come across like you just found out about it. There's no progress in that direction going on and if it was it still wouldn't be of any concern next to the other changes they've had this year

STOP!

Next thing you're going to say Blondie isn't playing under the stage anymore!

Hey Treacle, I've mentioned here a couple times when I saw them at BC Place in 06, I was on the floor to the left of the stage. Opening number I could clearly see Blondie sitting down behind the speakers near Chuck playing the guitar. I was surprised at how many songs he was playing guitar on. Can't believe that was 15 years ago now!

Yes Blondie assisted a lot during that period. No secrecy tho. If he played behind Chuck that was the norm as both Bernard and Lisa always remained backstage for the first few numbers in the set. Still the case today with Bernard and Sasha.

In Ottawa during the 2005 tour, during the intro to Sympathy, Charlie had some heart palpitations...he stood up and left the stage for a few minutes...the percussion continued and Charlie returned...and the song continued.

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They have a prerecorded percussion track...why? because it would sound pretty thin if they didn't have the percussion.

But it sounds completely artificial with the backing track...it's unnecessary imo...imagine of they added backing tracks to every song?

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Nikkei
You really do come across like you just found out about it. There's no progress in that direction going on and if it was it still wouldn't be of any concern next to the other changes they've had this year

STOP!

Next thing you're going to say Blondie isn't playing under the stage anymore!

Hey Treacle, I've mentioned here a couple times when I saw them at BC Place in 06, I was on the floor to the left of the stage. Opening number I could clearly see Blondie sitting down behind the speakers near Chuck playing the guitar. I was surprised at how many songs he was playing guitar on. Can't believe that was 15 years ago now!

Yes Blondie assisted a lot during that period. No secrecy tho. If he played behind Chuck that was the norm as both Bernard and Lisa always remained backstage for the first few numbers in the set. Still the case today with Bernard and Sasha.

He played hidden behind the speakers sitting down but I think only that first number, not sure why.

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chrism13
I am not suggesting they don't have percussion, although the Ya's Ya's verison doesn't have any and it sounds excellent. My question is why it has to be pre-recorded? That is why I hear the Broadway references...wardrobe changes, backing track...well, Broadway might get offended as they use live music.

It's not "pre-recorded", it's all samples, with the keys changed, from the studio recording and, very likely, updated with newer sounds. It's not a 'backing track' - that's what Kiss does.

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What is next...Pre-recorded cowbell for HTW?

That's a sample as well - in three keys.

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Nikkei
You really do come across like you just found out about it. There's no progress in that direction going on and if it was it still wouldn't be of any concern next to the other changes they've had this year

STOP!

Next thing you're going to say Blondie isn't playing under the stage anymore!

Hey Treacle, I've mentioned here a couple times when I saw them at BC Place in 06, I was on the floor to the left of the stage. Opening number I could clearly see Blondie sitting down behind the speakers near Chuck playing the guitar. I was surprised at how many songs he was playing guitar on. Can't believe that was 15 years ago now!

Yes Blondie assisted a lot during that period. No secrecy tho. If he played behind Chuck that was the norm as both Bernard and Lisa always remained backstage for the first few numbers in the set. Still the case today with Bernard and Sasha.

He played hidden behind the speakers sitting down but I think only that first number, not sure why.

That is normal protocol for the first song(s). Background vocals always perform out of view.



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In Ottawa during the 2005 tour, during the intro to Sympathy, Charlie had some heart palpitations...he stood up and left the stage for a few minutes...the percussion continued and Charlie returned...and the song continued.

???

I would have loved it if they had let the gorillas do the percussion work at the 02 Arena concerts ten years ago

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I would have loved it if they had let the gorillas do the percussion work at the 02 Arena concerts ten years ago

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...and that would certainly have been a sight to behold !

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Nikkei
You really do come across like you just found out about it. There's no progress in that direction going on and if it was it still wouldn't be of any concern next to the other changes they've had this year

STOP!

Next thing you're going to say Blondie isn't playing under the stage anymore!

Hey Treacle, I've mentioned here a couple times when I saw them at BC Place in 06, I was on the floor to the left of the stage. Opening number I could clearly see Blondie sitting down behind the speakers near Chuck playing the guitar. I was surprised at how many songs he was playing guitar on. Can't believe that was 15 years ago now!

Was at the show, great floor seats. As the explosion started JJF at the beginning of the show, my wife in surprise dropped her full beer on my foot.

Good times!