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Below was posted by Trevor on the LARS board. Trevor
Hobley is the Brian Jones fan club manager.



-- Trevor Hobley, 08:08:00 11/15/05

Tue (brhm-cache-9.server.ntli.net/62.255.32.17)
I am absolutely overwhelmed by all of the comments on
this message-board and the phone calls, e-mails and
snail-mail letters that I’ve received with offers of
help in various forms by all you good people who form
the Brian Jones Community.
Incredible donations of £5.00 to £100 have been
pledged and at a time when Christmas is coming, and I
know for sure that money is tight at this time of
year, your generosity and wish to help in this cause
is truly wonderful - thank you. Some have even offered
an on-going monthly sum of money and many want to
re-new their BJFC membership immediately without even
having the final AfterMath of this current year, it’s
all ‘just awesome’, as my daughter would say!
Pleased be assured that no matter how little or how
large your contribution, it will be most gratefully
accepted and put to good use and on behalf of Pat
Andrews, myself and everybody else associated with the
Fan Club – once again, thank you all very much.
Obviously I’m now going to continue the Fan Club and
BJFC website in its present format, the only thing
that might change is that we reduce the number of
magazines to three per year; some have argued sensibly
at not having a magazine at all but consolidating the
fan club fees and then revert to a newsletter two or
three times a year. Well, as many of you who’ve read
our magazine over the past two years and have
commented favourably, especially on the quality of
content, we on the editorial team think it only
fitting that fan club members deserve to continue to
receive our tribute to Brian Jones in a printed format
that might compliment any music library.
At times over the past six months I’ve felt fairly
isolated, that’s certainly not the case now, I feel
that since Gerry’s original post everything has gelled
and we are as one. Regarding the research and
investigation into Brian’s death, it has been
frustrating and as I explained in my original post,
how slowly the wheels grind on the part of the
authorities in their response to our forensic
organisations deliberations. I would love to tell you
all everything that I’ve discovered at this time but
circumstances, at this specific point in time, prevent
me from doing so but I would just like to add the
following points to Eva’s post under the thread,
‘Stoned Report’ started by her on the 14th November.
I have extensive interviews recorded with Les and Mary
Hallett and amongst other things documented, they both
denied ever hearing screaming and cars screeching away
that night at 10pm. In actual fact it was after
midnight that they were awoken by their teenage
daughter who saw the flashing blue police lights
reflected in the sky. Also, anybody who knows the
topography of Cotchford Lane would soon realise that
with the brick construction and location of the
Hallett’s home, including the thick seasonal tree and
hedge coverage it would be almost impossible to hear
and see what was going on down at the end of the lane.
The carpet-fitter, who has been assessed as an
extremely competent witness by our advisors, does
include in his statement, as Eva indicates, that it
was at approximately 10pm when Brian shouted goodnight
out of the landing window (this is in fact the first
time he’d seen or spoken to Brian since the Monday
morning and, he hadn’t seen Anna Wohlin at all),
however, within seconds Brian called both the
carpet-fitter and his partner back into the house
where they talked for a further 25 minutes in the
music room. The carpet-fitters recall was that there
were certainly no other people in the house or grounds
(they’d been working late into the evening to finish
the job off in the music room) the house was in
darkness and it was Brian who switched the lights on
as he came downstairs. During their conversation Brian
pleaded with them to stay the night. He recalls,
‘Brian was frightened to death about something -
terrified in fact’ and I think that that memory, that
perhaps if they’d stayed the night, Brian would still
be alive today has lived with him ever since.
Brian’s absence from Cotchford Farm in the days
leading up to his death is significantly recalled in
the carpet-fitters statement, this contrary to all the
books (and film) placing Brian at Cotchford, and a
witness has recently come forward who places Brian in
a hotel in London on the Tuesday evening (with a
blonde) and making plans to leave for a foreign
country. And incredibly this person also tells of
Brian’s terror on that night before he died in graphic
detail. This person and the carpet-fitter have no
connection whatsoever.
Regarding one possible motive, we have a statement
from a gentleman who, although terribly beaten for his
efforts, expands on the ownership of the Rolling
Stones ‘name’ and the fact that at his ‘sacking’ three
weeks prior to his death, Brian threatened to ‘sue the
arses’ off certain people if they ever used the name
without him
All this and additional previously unknown information
and evidence are contained in my dossier secure with
the forensic company, they’ve passed selective details
on to the police authority and those details are under
review by the police authority at this time.
Finally, Nic Fitzgerald made a verbal statement to a
witness, sometime prior to his book being published,
confirming that both himself and Cadbury saw three men
holding a body upside down with the head in a trough
of water. Bernard Toms however, ghost writing
Fitzgerald’s book states, (and as Eva explains more
fully in her post) that the body was being held under
water in the swimming pool. I tend to believe the
original statement (which incidentally was my first
indication that Brian might have been rendered
unconscious in the house leading me to believe
therefore that there might still be a crime scene to
this day); oh and by the way, there is a letter in my
dossier, from a third party who confirms it was Mr
Keylock who chased both Cadbury and Fitzgerald off the
property at approximately 11.30 pm.
I wanted to share this limited information with the
board to give confidence in your belief and support of
what we’re doing and that we are damned serious. I’m
in the process of building a webpage so that those who
wish to help and donate can do so and that page should
be published in the next few days, I’ll let the board
know when it’s up and running together with a
hyperlink.
Once again many thanks for your support, and my
regards to you all.

Trevor Hobley

Really? Brian was about to sue the Stones and they had him killed? Wouldnt that have been worse for the Stones? Murder?

i thought he was shot from the Grassy Knoll.

Down me local chippy I thought.......

It's hard to delve into all this without sounding like a nutty conspiracy theorist but if you start to question Keylock's account of Thorogood's deathbed confession (remembering that Thorogood's daughter said it never took place and she was in the hospital room with him throughout his visits) then you have to ask what would his motivation be in making it up except to shift the blame on to someone else. This would have to be in order to protect the guilty party/parties and Keylock was in the employ of the Stones and was sent down to Cotchford Farm that night. Now if you hold up Fitzgerald's account up alongside this (I am very doubtful of Fitzgerald's credibility but suspend disbelief for a minute) about the three men holding Brian's head under water and that he was chased off the estate by Keylock then you do get a very murky and disturbing picture emerging.

I really don't want to go there as I love the Stones more than anything outside friends and family but I think there is a duty to try and discover the truth and IF this will ever be known, it can only happen through serious and thorough investigation of the facts. I have maintained for several years that I believe Thorogood killed him but probably not with intent (the same line as the movie 'Stoned' is taking I think) but Trevor Hobley's words are actually begginning to worry me slightly.

Have I lost the plot? Am I being ridiculous here?

Well put Tseverin, a rational perspective. And yes the investigation is being based on facts only.

Why are there so much line breaks?

You're just paranoid, and Miss U. is making money out of all this. It's ridiculous. Nobody could believe Brian would've had the strength. the money (he only left millions of debts) and the power to succeed in a lawsuit against 4 out of 5 Rolling Stones standing together.

Why should you need three guys to kill one weak guy in a pool? And who would've been the third one? Charlie or Bill? That's bullshit.

It's just another attempt of weird people to make money with the Stones, and with Brian, who sadly can't get rid off these legend.

No one ever will find out what has happened. Most likely it was an accident, or a self killing. There were loads of people around, the most of them totally stoned or drunk in these times, and it's more than 35 years away, so how could anyone believe anything that these 'witnesses' tell now???

Just let him rest in peace, and stop to pick over the bones.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2005-11-16 16:41 by micawber.

I have to agree, selfkilling or accident or maybe maybe maybe a second degree killing in rage. Still The Stones had nothing to do with that, nothing at all. That's just crap. It's a sad story indeed.

yeah...the truth is near...and the truth is:

drugs + swimming pool = bad idea

I would add asthma to the equation, on the left...

don't forget booze.
...that's not too clever an idea, around swimming pools, either.

gossip,gossip,gossip,gossip........................aH! but the coroner found little evidence of drugs in his system and only the equivilent of 3 pints of beer.....and Brian was a good swimmer
MURDER I TELL YOU.........MURDER
It's no wonder they are charging such high prices for tickets and putting the same album out twice............they need the funds for their defence lawyers......It'll be the trial of the century!

It is terrible how people won't just let this man rest in peace.

miss you wrote:

>which incidentally was my first
indication that Brian might have been rendered
unconscious in the house leading me to believe
therefore that there might still be a crime scene to
this day);


????? a crime scene 36 years later? you can't bring him back. he's gone. drugs and alcohol and a seedy builder. you can't prosecute because the other guys dead also.

percystokes, you seem to know Brian very well.
Tell us more about him. How was he in bed?
You know a real lot of the circumstances of his death.
Was it you? Or have you been the coroner?

You can be a good swimmer, but with asthma you can die from one minute to another, you know...

All this is bollocks.

micawber Wrote:
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> percystokes, you seem to know Brian very well.
> Tell us more about him. How was he in bed?
> You know a real lot of the circumstances of his
> death.
> Was it you? Or have you been the coroner?
>
> You can be a good swimmer, but with asthma you can
> die from one minute to another, you know...
>
> All this is bollocks.


agreed micawber.....it's all about the mighty $ (movie, books, etc.)...and conveniently timed during a Stones tour...we live in a tabloid world



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-11-16 20:45 by Leonard Keringer.

I'm not the one investigating and I'm not making any money from Brian in any way... wow, talk about slandering someone out of denial.

The Brian Jones fan club is investigating Brian's death because WE care about Brian and feel he deserves the truth to be known, that he did not die of drugs. Nor did he drown in his pool. If he had drowned in his pool as they claim, there would have been enough time to revive him according to their story; so that doesn't add up. Just ask Dr Wecht a forensic pathologist. Those who kill a man should be brought to justice, then Brian may rest in peace, and his offspring deserve what is rightfully theirs.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-11-16 20:55 by Miss U..

Miss U sounds like you already figured it out.

Maybe you should focus on the content of the original post by Trevor, instead of attacking the messenger, out of denial.

Brian who?

Nic Fitzgerald is trying to sell books ($)...Brian Jones autopsy showed no signs of a struggle (how could this be, if he was struggling with 3 men?)

Miss U - Would you be kind enough to make a brief presentation of the case.
Who claims that Brian was killed? What's the motive? Any witnesses? Who are the suspects?
Where's the evidence to prove it if this was to be brought to court?
What do you mean by "Brian Jones truth is near?

Miss U. Wrote:
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> Maybe you should focus on the content of the
> original post by Trevor, instead of attacking the
> messenger, out of denial.


I was doing that and had a problem finding any facts, for example he writes:

a witness has recently come forward who places Brian in
a hotel in London on the Tuesday evening (with a
blonde) and making plans to leave for a foreign
country.

A witness?
A hotel?
A blonde?
A foreign country?

(The only degree of speficity here is "London" and a "Tuesday" night)

Could it a statement be any more vague? It's this kind of description that hardly lends credibility to the argument. And the piece is full of so many similar statements that it becomes easy to throw out any truth that the argument might have held.

The truth must be told right now, the three men holding brian down while he drowned were in fact.......Mick, Keith and Bill Wyman.
l have it from impecable sources, Aliens, that had been hanging out and partying with brian that fatefull night.
Stay tune for rest of the story.


"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

ROPENI Wrote:
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> The truth must be told right now, the three men
> holding brian down while he drowned were in
> fact.......Mick, Keith and Bill Wyman.
> l have it from impecable sources, Aliens, that had
> been hanging out and partying with brian that
> fatefull night.
> Stay tune for rest of the story.
>
>
> "MANOLO, SHOOT THAT PIECE OF SHIT"


finally, somebody makes sense!

i thought winnie the pooh and piglet were involved?

J.J.Flash Wrote:
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> i thought winnie the pooh and piglet were
> involved?


thats on the hush-hush J.J. (classified)

sorry! i blew their cover.this is more conspiracy filled than jfk!

What else could keep a Brian Jones web site and magazine going other than "who killed Brian Jones?" re-hashed rumours.


I heard Brian was sitting at the bottom of the pool playing his sitar and it shorted out.