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thomashanck
i think some scenes in the docu "crossfire hurricane" are outtakes from one+one,
00:38 and so on, especially from 1:35 on, brian is leaving ...
so there musr be more in the archives
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thkbeercan
I'm not an expert on this subject, but here is my 2 cents worth.....
I have seen this film many times over the course of 50 years. The first time was in a movie theater in the early 1970's. At that time, there were 2 'versions' of the film: one, the original Goddard edit, was called "One Plus One". This differs from the currently available version in only one respect...it did not feature the complete LP version of the song playing under the closing credits. A second version, called "Sympathy for the Devil" was also released to capitalize on the song's growing popularity, so the album version of the song was tagged on at the end. The closing credits and footage had to be slowed down to allow for the song to play out. The theater I visited played both versions of the film at alternating times. Why? Who knows....
Remember, the footage was shot almost 6 month's before the album's release. There was no way of knowing how well the song would be received or if it would even be included on the future album.
Goddard did not intend to make a movie about the Rolling Stones. They were merely an aspect of the times, interspersed with quasi-sexual and pseudo-revoltionary imagery that reflected 'radical' societal changes in the late 1960's. I guess he felt that the Stones' music and image were part of those changes. In fact, the idea that Goddard would want to make a mess of a film like this, so different from his previous work, was also a reflection of the times. This was no landmark in the history of cinema. It was a counter-culture experiment. And it is boringly difficult to watch except for the Stones footage. (In retrospect, "Street Fighting Man" might have been a better choice of music, but I digress....)
Goddard did not have a choice in so far as what music his cameras would capture. Movie-making in the late 60's was a costly and involved process, and sometimes the end product was more the result of logistical coincidences than thoughtful pre-planning. Goddard got permission to film the Stones; they had time booked at Olympic Studios on days which were convenient for everyone. The result was the footage in the movie "One Plus One".
Towards the end of the film, the Stones can be seen on the floor, jamming to a riff on Keith's guitar. This goes on for a few minutes. This riff would eventually be incorporated into the chorus of "Stray Cat Blues". This is the only footage of music other than "Sympathy" in the film, and quite possibly the only other rehearsal footage that Goddard captured. His cameras were only in the studio for a few days and the Stones appear intent on developing that one song. And as I mentioned earlier, this was not to be a film about the Rolling Stones.
In an old interview about the film, Jagger said that it was mere luck that Goddard caught them creating "Sympathy for the Devil"....on another night he might have found the Stones just staring at each other.
ABKCO did not finance the making of this film. They bought the rights to it years later. And, as owners of the material, they are free to do with it as they choose. However, I've seen the theatrical release, the laserdisc release in the 1990's and the current DVD. I have not noticed any removal of footage between these formats.
My best bet? There is no extra footage a la "Let It Be/Get Back".
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thomashanck
i think some scenes in the docu "crossfire hurricane" are outtakes from one+one,
00:38 and so on, especially from 1:35 on, brian is leaving ...
so there musr be more in the archives
[www.youtube.com]
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thomashanck
i think some scenes in the docu "crossfire hurricane" are outtakes from one+one,
00:38 and so on, especially from 1:35 on, brian is leaving ...
so there musr be more in the archives
[www.youtube.com]
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runaway
I don’t have any footage but there’s a vinyl bootleg “The Devil is my name”, that has 45 minutes various “Sympathy For The Devil”, tracks.
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runaway
I don’t have any footage but there’s a vinyl bootleg “The Devil is my name”, that has 45 minutes various “Sympathy For The Devil”, tracks.
can anyone elaborate on this record is it just a straight recording of the movie soundtrack or is it something different
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runaway
I don’t have any footage but there’s a vinyl bootleg “The Devil is my name”, that has 45 minutes various “Sympathy For The Devil”, tracks.
can anyone elaborate on this record is it just a straight recording of the movie soundtrack or is it something different
The vinyl: recorded at Olympic Studios London. May 1968
Executive Producer: Jimmy Miller For “One & One
Vocal: Mick Jagger
Acoustic Guitar: Brian Jones
Mick Jagger (first rehearsal)
Guitar: Keith Richards
Bass: Keith Richards
Marimbas: Bill Wyman
Drums: Charlie Watts
Percussion: Mick Jagger
Piano: Nicky Hopkins
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ProfessorWolf
are the performances clear of narrators talking over them
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ProfessorWolf
are the performances clear of narrators talking over them
As part of their 1968 copyright protection uploads, ABKCO included a complete earlier take of Sympathy For The Devil (which is in the film with voice over) without the voice over.
This is the live in the studio audio as captured by Jean-Luc Godard's film crew during the filming of One Plus One aka Sympathy For The Devil. 3 mics in total were used by the film crew, 1 mic for Mick's vocal and 2 portable over head mic's on booms which were moved around the room during filming and takes. This explains why the levels and presence of the instrumentation on this recording changes during the song.
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ribbelchips
I don't think the One plus one footage is very useful for a Get Back-like documentary, but maybe there is more in the vaults. Like the footage shot in the Muscle Shoals studio's or from Altamont or the Hyde Park show.
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ProfessorWolf
... i'm unsure what the purpose of peter whitehead filming them in the studio was can someone elaborate on why he was there and how much he filmed
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ProfessorWolf
... i'm unsure what the purpose of peter whitehead filming them in the studio was can someone elaborate on why he was there and how much he filmed
It was for promo vids mostly.
After Charlie Is My Darling, it seems Peter filmed them in New York in 1966 during the Have You Seen Your Mother drag photo session < not positive about this one... But definitely at the Albert Hall in September 1966, Olympic in November 1966, Olympic and in spring/summer 1967. He also filmed Mick, Keith & Marianne at an old church etc for the We love You/Dandelion promos.
His footage was used for promos for Have You Seen Your Mother, Let's Send The Night Together, Ruby Tuesday and the already mentioned We Love You and Dandelion promos.
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thomashanck
here is the interview, at the end of it the question about "surrealism"
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