the must be signs in other cities, too.
Has anybody seen signs, tongues etc. in places like Prague, Gelsenkirchen/Ruhr area etc. and/or local newspaper reports?



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the must be signs in other cities, too.
Has anybody seen signs, tongues etc. in places like Prague, Gelsenkirchen/Ruhr area etc. and/or local newspaper reports?

German media seems clueless af...I googled it earlier and there was one report in the German Rolling Stone magazine that I already posted here yesterday, by some reporter probably needing to go back to geography class at school cause they claimed the tongues in Germany where in Berlin and Hamburg wtf...and the only other report I found so far from a Berlin paper wondering whether they'll come back to Berlin again...

Nothing yet in Prague, was literally driving half of a yesterday’s night to catch something … but czech republic is a lil bit weird in these things anyway



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I am in Prague have seen nothing yet!

Would it be Letnany Airport again? Is that the go-to venue in Prague for big concert productions?

Easy pass for me anyways.



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As far as the rumored Italy date of June 21 goes, there's another concert in San Siro on June 19. Would there be enough time to load that one out and load the Stones in?

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German media seems clueless

Not quite: there's an 3-pages Interview (p.120) with Keith in the News-Magazine Der Spiegel (No. 11/2022, published on 12-Mar-2022) - [www.Spiegel.de] - (paywalled).

Yes, still the same venue… the biggest stadium (sinobo) isn’t big enough in the terms of the stones usual capacity (just around 30k)



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German media seems clueless

Not quite: there's an 3-pages Interview (p.120) with Keith in the News-Magazine Der Spiegel (No. 11/2022, published on 12-Mar-2022) - [www.Spiegel.de] - (paywalled).

Yeah, I just found it too a few minutes ago and literally subscribed there just to read it lol...idk when exactly the interview was conducted but Keith said he isn't allowed to say anything about a tour and there wasn't any further mention of it, he mostly talked about missing Charlie, playing with Steve, and the whole Brown Sugar thing

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As far as the rumored Italy date of June 21 goes, there's another concert in San Siro on June 19. Would there be enough time to load that one out and load the Stones in?

No. They need the 20th to break down and build up. The 21th everything must be ready early. They need more time

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Yes, still the same venue… the biggest stadium (sinobo) isn’t big enough in the terms of the stones usual capacity (just around 30k)

Is Letna Park usable like in 2003?

It's all been confirmed...

the greatest rock and roll band in the world - definitely

IORR members from European countries not visited on this tour will refrain from posting.

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As far as the rumored Italy date of June 21 goes, there's another concert in San Siro on June 19. Would there be enough time to load that one out and load the Stones in?

No. They need the 20th to break down and build up. The 21th everything must be ready early. They need more time

Isn't the load-in completed the night after the concert?

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I am in Prague have seen nothing yet!

O2 Arena (Prague) is very popular among the big stars these days. It is a 17,000 capacity arena, could be added to the tour easily.

Bjornulf

So if the date sticks, it looks like Monza for Italy then.

They are getting ready:

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I am in Prague have seen nothing yet!

O2 Arena (Prague) is very popular among the big stars these days. It is a 17,000 capacity arena, could be added to the tour easily.

Oh wow, an arena gig???

From the German News-Magazine Der Spiegel, No. 11, 12-Mar-2022, p.120-122:


»40 years ago I was closer to death than I am now«

SPIEGEL-TALK: Guitarist Keith Richards on the Rolling Stones without Charlie Watts, the accusations of racism against the song "Brown Sugar" and a life free of alcohol and cigarettes

He is regarded as the great indestructible of Rock'n'Roll: In December last year, Richards turned 78 - only a few weeks before the Rolling Stones' latest US tour, in which he has played guitar for almost 60 years, had ended. Before that, drummer Charlie Watts, an original member of the band, had died in August 2021. The shock of the loss has not yet been overcome, Richards says in a telephone conversation on the occasion of the re-release of his 1992 solo album "Main Offender".

SPIEGEL: Mr Richards, you have not only stopped drinking but also smoking. How do you feel?

Richards: It must be about two years now that I don't smoke any more. I tell you, it was a very persistent thing. I tried to quit every now and then. But I found that the more I tried to quit, the more I smoked. But then one day I had to go to the dentist and they had to stitch something up in my mouth. When I was out of the surgery, I lit a cigarette, of course. But there was something in that feeling when the smoke got to the raw flesh ...

SPIEGEL: Which was?

Richards: Yeah, you know. That was it for me. I then used some of those patches for a while and that was it. I'm still amazed that I spent my whole life giving things up. And then this. Just like that.

SPIEGEL: Smoking and drinking always have a calming function, after all.

Richards: Yes, they limit certain abilities that we actually have, for example the sense of taste.

SPIEGEL: Are you more thin-skinned since you quit hard alcohol and cigarettes?

Richards: I think when I stopped drinking then, I was more balanced for a while. Last year it helped me a lot to work to get things together. After all, the past few years have been very hard and difficult for everyone.

SPIEGEL: Robbie Williams once said that when he tries to quit smoking, he develops another addiction. He then eats lots of sweets. What is your substitute addiction?

Richards: I smoke more weed.

SPIEGEL: We were thinking more of something like hobby gardening or the treadmill that's supposedly in your basement.

Richards: No, no, no. Well, I have a treadmill, but I don't use it.

SPIEGEL: How are you recovering from the US tour with the Rolling Stones that ended this winter?

Richards: Pretty good, it was hard work because we hadn't toured for a couple of years. But of course it also took some getting used to, putting the band together again with Steve Jordan on drums and working without Charlie Watts. But I've also worked with Steve for half my life now, and we all know each other. It's been a great tour and I'm looking forward to playing a few more shows this year.

SPIEGEL: Are you coming back to Europe?

Richards: I'm not allowed to confirm it, I think. But it's under discussion.

SPIEGEL: What do you miss when you think of Charlie Watts?

Richards: I don't even know where to start there ... His smile, I guess. It could always mean a million different things. You always wondered which one he meant. Yes, his smile is probably what I miss the most.

SPIEGEL: How hard is it for you to go on tour without him after all these decades?

Richards: We were already preparing the tour without him when Charlie died. So we were forced to do it then. I think that made it easier than waiting until now to do it, because now we know it's possible. That it can be done.

SPIEGEL: Did playing live help you get over the grief?

Richards: Oh, we're still not over it.

SPIEGEL: Was it hard to play the songs without him at first?

Richards: Yes, of course. But as Charlie himself once said: The show must go on.

SPIEGEL: Mick Jagger recently said that Charlie was the heartbeat of the band.

Richards: Yes, that's true. The most important thing was to integrate Steve Jordan. Fortunately, Mick and Steve have also known each other for a long time. And Steve has known the Rolling Stones since middle age, so we didn't have the problem of having to bring in a completely new guy. Steve is a great drummer. He can play just the right amount of Charlie Watts and just the right amount of himself, which is really interesting.

SPIEGEL: Were there moments when you thought that was it for the Rolling Stones?

Richards: Ha! We all thought about that. But unfortunately the band doesn't agree with that.

SPIEGEL: So the band has a life of its own. Has it become more of a Keith Richards band now with Steve Jordan, who has been part of your solo band The X-Pensive Winos for so long?

Richards: No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't let that happen either. The dynamic is still very much with Mick. He's just a great frontman. In fact, working with the Winos and being the lead singer has taught me a lot more about Mick's job than I realised before. Being a frontman is difficult because you work non-stop. Whereas when you're in Keith Richards mode with the Stones, you can decide when to push forward and when to sit back. You can manage your time, you know? As a front man you have no time at all.

SPIEGEL: You once described the magic of playing live as starting with a feeling of floating.

Richards: I think all good bands, when they have a good night and the rhythm section is playing, have that feeling of floating. The problem then is landing.

SPIEGEL: Do you think differently about death now that you've lost Charlie Watts?

Richards: Different in the sense that it's a hell of a lot closer now?

SPIEGEL: Yes, that's the way it was meant.

Richards: Oh, you know, I was probably closer to death 30, 40 years ago than I am now. (Laughs his typical Keith Richards laugh, a hoarse "Heh-heh-heh".)

SPIEGEL: Do you actually realise that younger listeners who are now rediscovering your solo album "Main Offender" or even the Rolling Stones' records are probably listening to them via a streaming service? Do you have a Spotify account?

Richards: Sorry, what kind of account?

SPIEGEL: Do you have a Spotify or Apple Music account?

Richards: No, I don't. I still listen to CDs.

SPIEGEL: But it's so simple! You have practically the whole music world available on your mobile phone ...

Richards: I know, I know. It's easy if you have a mobile phone, but I don't have a mobile phone.

SPIEGEL: Good for you. But did you still follow the controversy about Spotify and Neil Young and Joni Mitchell pulling their music off Spotify?

Richards: Oh yes, I've been following some of that. It's good for Neil, I would say. You should be able to do what you want with your music. I mean, we finally got Donald Trump to stop playing "You Can't Always Get What You Want".

SPIEGEL: A Rolling Stones song he used in the presidential campaign without asking you for permission.

Richards: Exactly. Normally you want people to play your music, but there are certain occasions when you just say: I'd rather not be associated with that.

SPIEGEL: Is it significant that the protest against Spotify comes from artists like Neil Young or Joni Mitchell? Like you, they come from the counterculture of the sixties.

Richards: And then they're both Canadian, too. Heh-heh-heh.

SPIEGEL: Yes, that's a dangerous combination, of course. But what about the Rolling Stones? When are they withdrawing their music from Spotify? Is that something you've thought about?

Richards: As I said, I don't deal with Spotify much. It would have to be somebody bringing it to my attention for me to think about things like that. But otherwise, you know, I mean, go ahead: Spotify away. Heh-heh-heh.

SPIEGEL: You've also been in trouble recently. There was protest against the famous Stones song "Brown Sugar", a standard of your live shows since 1969. Today, some people consider it racist and sexist.

Richards: Well, some black ladies muttered something, that's true. And we decided then that we would retire "Brown Sugar", for this tour, instead of creating a controversy about it.

SPIEGEL: Your fans protested loudly against you cutting the song. In a way, this is similar to the conflict between Spotify and Neil Young. It's also about censorship and the limits of free speech. Do you feel that with "Brown Sugar" you have become a victim of the so-called Cancel Culture?

Richards: I have to admit that I didn't care that much about this "Brown Sugar" thing at the time. I was more concerned with getting a band going with a black drummer.

SPIEGEL: Of course.

Richards: Mick and I just decided we didn't want to mess with angry black women who didn't seem to know what the song was about. The song is about the horrors of slavery and not just about ... Sex. So we decided not to bother explaining it.

SPIEGEL: You have expressed the hope that you might be able to put the song back on the setlist in the future. So do you think this debate about political correctness will pass?

Richards: It's really impossible to say. People are tripping over themselves right now. I don't know which way it's all going to go. The social media has stirred up quite a bit there. I'm basically just sitting on the sidelines and watching what's happening with a certain amusement.

SPIEGEL: Didn't you feel personally attacked? After all, as a Blues student and fan, you have always been very respectful of black culture and its music.

Richards: Yes. If Charlie hadn't died, we might have taken the time to point that out. But as I said, we've had enough to do and we've decided to let it go now. Some people don't get it, black or white.

SPIEGEL: You've been working with the Rolling Stones on a new studio album for some time now. Is there any news about it?

Richards: We worked on new songs last year. Some of them were created together with Charlie, of course. That's why we haven't moved on yet. My feeling is that we will be on tour later this year. And after that, maybe we'll think about how we want to finish the record.

SPIEGEL: Even without Charlie?

Richards: Yeah, we're going to keep going. The band is forcing us. Heh-heh-heh.

SPIEGEL: Mr Richards, thank you for this interview.

[www.Spiegel.de]

(The interview was conducted by Spiegel-Editor Andreas Borcholte. Translation done with DeepL.com)

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I am in Prague have seen nothing yet!

O2 Arena (Prague) is very popular among the big stars these days. It is a 17,000 capacity arena, could be added to the tour easily.

Oh wow, an arena gig???

I am not saying it is on the list.
I am just saying it could be an option for a Prague show.

Bjornulf

Thanks Irix!

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They are getting ready:

[twitter.com]

Hahahah

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I am in Prague have seen nothing yet!

O2 Arena (Prague) is very popular among the big stars these days. It is a 17,000 capacity arena, could be added to the tour easily.

Oh wow, an arena gig???

I am not saying it is on the list.
I am just saying it could be an option for a Prague show.

Thanks Bjornulf, looks like the second German show and Prague are the last mysteries to be solved.

Eden Arena in Prague is another option if it's not Letnany Airport. Stadium shows happend there in the past. Rammstein 2019 for example.



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Prague o2? if bv had not commented on that I'd say: very unlikely. I would be the smallest venue for this tour by far

the Devils have updated their list => [sympathyforthedevils.com]
nothing really new except for the 'running order':
London2 - Helsinki - Brussels – Gelsenkirchen in July
they still have Paris on July 23 followed by Vienna und Stockholm

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They are getting ready:

[twitter.com]

Hahahah

‘Keith on the landline’ LOL

from the Spiegel interview (see above)
SPIEGEL: Are you coming back to Europe?

Richards: I'm not allowed to confirm it, I don't think. But it's under discussion.

I guess this is/might be a sign that something went wrong with the tour announcement. Germany's leading news magazine publishes an interview with Keith a day after the Stones starting teasing a tour that will be announced on Monday and Keith isn't allowed to confirm the tour???
Well, the interview has surely conducted a while back but professional management would have made sure that they changed that sentence into something like 'yeah, Europe, here he come, heh-heh'.

Warsaw National stadium signed. second leg next year. baracuda agency from Austria.

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from the Spiegel interview (see above)
SPIEGEL: Are you coming back to Europe?

Richards: I'm not allowed to confirm it, I don't think. But it's under discussion.

I guess this is/might be a sign that something went wrong with the tour announcement. Germany's leading news magazine publishes an interview with Keith a day after the Stones starting teasing a tour that will be announced on Monday and Keith isn't allowed to confirm the tour???
Well, the interview has surely conducted a while back but professional management would have made sure that they changed that sentence into something like 'yeah, Europe, here he come, heh-heh'.

Nothing wrong with the tour announcement.

Journalists do not let artist management change sentences after the fact.

I spent 2 hours to go to Groupama Stadium, to check some external signs
I jumped over the fence (definitely too old for that) and turned all around
nothing
sad sad sad