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I think it is a better listening experience than it is a visual experience.

JJF - Sounds cool but suffers from no audible second guitar. It comes to life when Nicky Hopkin's keyboard comes in at the outro.

Parachute Woman - Great but they should have let Brian play the harp as that was his greatest strength.

No Expectations - Worth buying the CD/DVD just for this.

YCAGWYW - Great. I like this better than the versions they did later with Mick Taylor.

Sympathy - It is great.

Salt of the Earth - Throwaway. They should have ditched this and included one of their earlier blues covers like King Bee, etc

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Also rumored to have
rehearsed Johnson's - Walking Blues ......... mmmmmmmmmmmm

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My take is completely different. You have a band that hadn't played live in a year and a half playing songs that were completely new handcuffed by only one person playing guitar in front of an audience that wasn't just a bunch of screaming teens. I think it's amazing. The colors are wonderful and a perfect capturing of the late 60's coming of age Stones. Keith was proving he was a guitar player at his technical best from this point through the 1971 tour (where his playing reached it's absolute zenith). Mick was not perfect but it was a totally new experience. The quality of the filming was great (I believe by the BBC but not sure). Overall I think it captures a moment in time that could never be recreated. It reached a legendary status because of the delayed release but I believe it is wonderful!!!!

A prominent member of this forum isolated Brian’s guitar and indeed proved he played and played properly. It’s on YouTube. He even demonstrated the parts Brian played.

What was shown that Brian did play guitar, whereas it was believed (also by me) that he didn't play at all, or that his amp was off. What was also shown was that what Brian played was just incredible simple, and for parts off, awkward and strange.

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My take is completely different. You have a band that hadn't played live in a year and a half playing songs that were completely new handcuffed by only one person playing guitar in front of an audience that wasn't just a bunch of screaming teens. I think it's amazing. The colors are wonderful and a perfect capturing of the late 60's coming of age Stones. Keith was proving he was a guitar player at his technical best from this point through the 1971 tour (where his playing reached it's absolute zenith). Mick was not perfect but it was a totally new experience. The quality of the filming was great (I believe by the BBC but not sure). Overall I think it captures a moment in time that could never be recreated. It reached a legendary status because of the delayed release but I believe it is wonderful!!!!

A prominent member of this forum isolated Brian’s guitar and indeed proved he played and played properly. It’s on YouTube. He even demonstrated the parts Brian played.

What was shown that Brian did play guitar, whereas it was believed (also by me) that he didn't play at all, or that his amp was off. What was also shown was that what Brian played was just incredible simple, and for parts off, awkward and strange.

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Explain No Expectation then. Very audible. There are two guitars in every song but Sympathy and the Brian Jones Resource brought it out. Certainly not Keith overdubs or it would have been more audible and better played. Brian even makes the same mistake twice in Flash. He goes into the chord to early. That’s how I knew Brian was playing. Not great but like you said simple parts. Enough to get them through the song without screwing it up. Plus with the many takes of each song he probably did screw up. This concert or special whatever it is called is now a legendary classic. One of the reasons is because of Brian Jones.

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My take is completely different. You have a band that hadn't played live in a year and a half playing songs that were completely new handcuffed by only one person playing guitar in front of an audience that wasn't just a bunch of screaming teens. I think it's amazing. The colors are wonderful and a perfect capturing of the late 60's coming of age Stones. Keith was proving he was a guitar player at his technical best from this point through the 1971 tour (where his playing reached it's absolute zenith). Mick was not perfect but it was a totally new experience. The quality of the filming was great (I believe by the BBC but not sure). Overall I think it captures a moment in time that could never be recreated. It reached a legendary status because of the delayed release but I believe it is wonderful!!!!

A prominent member of this forum isolated Brian’s guitar and indeed proved he played and played properly. It’s on YouTube. He even demonstrated the parts Brian played.

What was shown that Brian did play guitar, whereas it was believed (also by me) that he didn't play at all, or that his amp was off. What was also shown was that what Brian played was just incredible simple, and for parts off, awkward and strange.

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Explain No Expectation then. Very audible. There are two guitars in every song but Sympathy and the Brian Jones Resource brought it out. Certainly not Keith overdubs or it would have been more audible and better played. Brian even makes the same mistake twice in Flash. He goes into the chord to early. That’s how I knew Brian was playing. Not great but like you said simple parts. Enough to get them through the song without screwing it up. Plus with the many takes of each song he probably did screw up. This concert or special whatever it is called is now a legendary classic. One of the reasons is because of Brian Jones.

I don't understand what you are trying to say. Of course he is on No Expectations, which I find a very mediocre performance by all, including a shaky Brian. It wasn't until the sound files of His Majesty that I heard what Brian was playing on the other tracks.

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I know. I just mentioned the Supreme as an important part of his 1966-68-sound from that era.

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I remember discussions here years ago regarding YCAGWYW from Circus. On the 25x5 vhs video, you can clearly hear two guitars at the beginning of the song so I was surprised when the actual Circus DVD came out, you couldn't hear Brian's part.
Sources said that on the 25x5 video, Keith overdubbed that part, not sure if it's true or not.

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I like some aspects of the circus, but it's just blatantly obvious they need a new guitar player.

For me, Brian should just not have bothered turning up or he should have raised his game if only for the sake of his own legacy.

The sense of relief from Keith at the end of No Expectations is palpable. Brian comes to life during Parachute Woman, basically giving us that ol' 64 stones R&R rhythm that he played on just about everything that year, but his parts for JJF & especially YCAGWYW. Oh dear.

Still, Mick is on fire in Performance/Turner mode and Keith looks cool as @#$%& and aside from some weedy soloing also plays and sounds cool as @#$%& as well.

I can see and hear why they shelved it.

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How would you compare Keith’s guitar playing on stage the last 15 years to how Brian played at the Circus.