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Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: Vertigo05 ()
Date: September 25, 2020 21:26

Love the artwork! That was my first Stones tour for me... Saw them in Hannover (Urban Jungle) and (East) Berlin (Steel Wheels). Funny... they have forgotten the exact tour dates from Atlantic City & Tokyo on the cover. Dates from Toronto and London are featured.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: Bjorn ()
Date: September 25, 2020 21:30

Yes, nemas problemas in Sweden! A nice little surprise, this lovely friday evening.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: tommycharles ()
Date: September 25, 2020 21:40

Can’t get just the audio yet for the US rights reasons that have been mentioned, but the video sounds fantastic. Most guitar heavy Stones live release in a long while.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Date: September 25, 2020 22:03

So can someone tell me what has the better sounding mix.

The PPV version which I have had for years or the new release?

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: artinis1 ()
Date: September 25, 2020 22:18

Has anyone listened to the bonus cd? Especially Almost Hear You Sigh, just curious how those tracks sound. I’m still waiting for the Amazon truck

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: September 25, 2020 22:37

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Vertigo05
Love the artwork! That was my first Stones tour for me... Saw them in Hannover (Urban Jungle) and (East) Berlin (Steel Wheels). Funny... they have forgotten the exact tour dates from Atlantic City & Tokyo on the cover. Dates from Toronto and London are featured.

well, I think the package and especially the book are a bit, well, eh, cheap. At least underwhelming – compared to Totally Stipped or Sweet Summer Sun. But anyway, it's okay for some 25 Euros

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: GivenToFly15 ()
Date: September 25, 2020 22:37

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georgemcdonnell314
So can someone tell me what has the better sounding mix.

The PPV version which I have had for years or the new release?

Certainly the official release. Much clearer.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: September 25, 2020 22:48

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Are they not making this available to stream?

It's on [open.Spotify.com] , [www.Qobuz.com] , [www.Amazon.com] for Streaming.

Actually, I bought the digital 24/48 edition from Qobuz spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

moody smiley i should have done also - I completely forgot about and bought the 16/44 files.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Date: September 25, 2020 22:54

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GivenToFly15
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georgemcdonnell314
So can someone tell me what has the better sounding mix.

The PPV version which I have had for years or the new release?

Certainly the official release. Much clearer.

Thank you. I was reluctant due to some of the other releases but I prefer the better sound.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: GivenToFly15 ()
Date: September 25, 2020 23:16

Seriously, this is absolutely stunning. I did three versions for my listening pleasure : the stereo mix, Keith's side and Ronnie's side. Every version has its charm but you can hear every guitar lick perfectly. A lot of everything was buried on the Swingin' Pig CD release. This is crystal clear.



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Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: September 25, 2020 23:23

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85 minutes to go...: [www.youtube.com]

Went to You tube -appears that Mixed Emotions will be the first song played. Fine with me as this one gem IMO.

And now it's on. Take a peak for yourself. I don't know about the mix though. Seems a bit elaborated. I get the same feeling as on Stones at the Max (the IMAX movie).
The guitar sound seems pasted. Is it mixed for 5.1?

Maybe the horns are too pronounced ... Song does not need horns.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: September 25, 2020 23:25

'Play With Fire' is credited to Jagger/Richards/Watts/Wyman/Jones… confused smiley

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: September 25, 2020 23:39

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Stoneage
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Stoneage
85 minutes to go...: [www.youtube.com]

Went to You tube -appears that Mixed Emotions will be the first song played. Fine with me as this one gem IMO.

And now it's on. Take a peak for yourself. I don't know about the mix though. Seems a bit elaborated. I get the same feeling as on Stones at the Max (the IMAX movie).
The guitar sound seems pasted. Is it mixed for 5.1?

Maybe the horns are too pronounced ... Song does not need horns.

thumbs up

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: AV83 ()
Date: September 26, 2020 00:39

Best version of this concert to date is still the Wolfgang's Vault release. IMHO.
Disappointed on this official release, mainly because I was really waiting for this and I wanted it to be really good..
Just go listen to the little red rooster version on Flashpoint, then take a listen to the one on this one. The one on Flashpoint is pristine.
That's the way this release should have sounded.
I still don't get why the last 3 releases got this muddy sound (VL uncut, Bremen, Buenos Aires).
Can't get my head around it.
I mean, it's the Stones for crying out loud: the sound on this and every release should be no less than incredible.
Really bad, bad mixes I think.
Not to offend anyone, just my opinion.



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Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Date: September 26, 2020 00:46

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AV83
Best version of this concert to date is still the Wolfgang's Vault release. IMHO.
Disappointed on this official release, mainly because I was really waiting for this and I wanted it to be really good..
Just go listen to the little red rooster version on Flashpoint, then take a listen to the one on this one. The one on Flashpoint is pristine.
That's the way this release should have sounded.
I still don't get why the last 3 releases got this muddy sound (VL uncut, Bremen, Buenos Aires).
Can't get my head around it.
I mean, it's the Stones for crying out loud: the sound on this and every release should be no less than increíble.
Really bad, bad mixes I think.
Not to offend anyone, just my opinion.

Isn't the Wolfgangs vault the same mix as the PPV version?

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: September 26, 2020 00:47

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AV83
Best version of this concert to date is still the Wolfgang's Vault release. IMHO.
Disappointed on this official release, mainly because I was really waiting for this and I wanted it to be really good..
Just go listen to the little red rooster version on Flashpoint, then take a listen to the one on this one. The one on Flashpoint is pristine.
That's the way this release should have sounded.
I still don't get why the last 3 releases got this muddy sound (VL uncut, Bremen, Buenos Aires).
Can't get my head around it.
I mean, it's the Stones for crying out loud: the sound on this and every release should be no less than increíble.
Really bad, bad mixes I think.
Not to offend anyone, just my opinion.


Question - I use to frequent Wolfgang's Vault many years ago for incredible concerts such as David Bowie's Montreal dates per Serious Moonlight Tour.

Do they charge fees now? Seems I remember this deterring their website.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: artinis1 ()
Date: September 26, 2020 01:03

Wolfgang is good, but this release is better, clearer and you can really hear everything, I am a Wolfgang paid subscriber, they have so many great shows, but they all need remixing and remastering to sound like an official release

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: AV83 ()
Date: September 26, 2020 01:36

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artinis1
Wolfgang is good, but this release is better, clearer and you can really hear everything, I am a Wolfgang paid subscriber, they have so many great shows, but they all need remixing and remastering to sound like an official release

Agree to disagree smiling smiley
Again, just compare red rooster on Flashpoint and this one.



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Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: SKILLS ()
Date: September 26, 2020 06:28

Interesting the small edits they have made to the footage, running Mixed Emotions original alongside the new release, they have utilized different angles only slightly but it does slightly distract me at the moment, i'll no doubt get used to it as it's so sharp and crisp. Can't wait to get the BR

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: September 26, 2020 10:04

...i prefer the 2016 version, without the horrible horns. With Mick on guitar it would have been perfect!
[youtu.be]

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: ChrisL ()
Date: September 26, 2020 11:14

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slewan
'Play With Fire' is credited to Jagger/Richards/Watts/Wyman/Jones… confused smiley

The original was credited to Nanker Phelge, which is those five.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: September 26, 2020 11:23

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slewan
'Play With Fire' is credited to Jagger/Richards/Watts/Wyman/Jones… confused smiley

The original was credited to Nanker Phelge, which is those five.

I wonder why they didn't credit it as Nanker Phelge, though? Perhaps it's a publishing-issue, or something.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: saskiahidde ()
Date: September 26, 2020 12:28

I got the deluxe box and I'm a bit dissapointed with the sound. Both Atlantic City and Tokyo sound muffled. I tried an equalizer but high tones seem to be in one single channel. Picture of the blu ray is stunning but what was this sound man doing for this box? The separate Tokyo 1990 released earlier as a vault disc sounded crystal clear

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: September 26, 2020 12:31

The book of the 6CD set has the last bow side reversed...
I hate that kind of inaccuracy. angry smiley


Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: RobertJohnson ()
Date: September 26, 2020 13:24

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TooTough
The book of the 6CD set has the last bow side reversed...
I hate that kind of inaccuracy. angry smiley

The SD Blu-Ray seems to be defect, gets stuck from Bitch onwards.

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: September 26, 2020 13:54

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TooTough
The book of the 6CD set has the last bow side reversed...
I hate that kind of inaccuracy. angry smiley

The SD Blu-Ray seems to be defect, gets stuck from Bitch onwards.

the latter I'll never find out since I have not blue-ray player. But I already mentioned that the book is somehow cheap…

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: slowhand ()
Date: September 26, 2020 15:18

Mick sounds distant and muffled, Keith isn’t prominent in the mix, those are some of the criticisms I hear about this mix. To that I would say..”what the hell are you guys listening to?”. You should seriously check your equipment because those aren’t accurate descriptions of this mix, this is not my opinion, it’s a fact.



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Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: einte ()
Date: September 26, 2020 15:25

Same problem here images freeze several times on SD Blu-Ray
No problem with the dvd

Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: AV83 ()
Date: September 26, 2020 15:31

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slowhand
Mick sounds distant and muffled, Keith isn’t prominent in the mix, those are some of the criticisms I hear about this mix. To that I would say..”what the hell are you guys listening to?”. You should seriously check your equipment because those aren’t accurate descriptions of this mix, this is not my opinion, it’s a fact.

You hear what you hear ¯\_(?)_/¯
Please take the Little Red Rooster test



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Re: Steel Wheels Live - Atlantic City - out September 25
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: September 26, 2020 15:40

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