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IrelandCalling4
How good is the book in the deluxe set? Must say I loved the GHS deluxe book, lots of glossy photos from '73!
Good reviews this far on the sound; guitars a little low on some SW proshots so great to hear they're mixed nice and loud.
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FrogSugar
I have the Swinging Pig version. For those who have the new release, is it a night and day difference or would you call it a slight improvement.
I hate buying the same show twice...but...
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FrogSugar
I have the Swinging Pig version. For those who have the new release, is it a night and day difference or would you call it a slight improvement.
I hate buying the same show twice...but...
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FrogSugar
I have the Swinging Pig version. For those who have the new release, is it a night and day difference or would you call it a slight improvement.
I hate buying the same show twice...but...
night & day
the old boots all have the distant arena sound.
this one is very close.
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FrogSugar
I have the Swinging Pig version. For those who have the new release, is it a night and day difference or would you call it a slight improvement.
I hate buying the same show twice...but...
night & day
the old boots all have the distant arena sound.
this one is very close.
Ok but I m unsure if it's really better audiowise. These from the vault releases are all very catchy on first listen... My boot sounds ok / not perfect but I always liked it despite minor "faults".
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GivenToFly15
I have the 4-cd swinging pig. This is a very serious upgrade.
Did Bob Clearmountain mix it?Quote
ironbelly
Somebody on Steve Hoffmans's Music Forum
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Received the deluxe box this morning and have been playing the br. Rest assured, the guitars are loud and mixed in yer face. I give it a 9 out of 10.
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Have no idea. Mine box is on the way from amazon de and local record store does not carry neither 2CD/DVD nor 2CD/Bluray sets.Quote
bonddmDid Bob Clearmountain mix it?Quote
ironbelly
Somebody on Steve Hoffmans's Music Forum
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Received the deluxe box this morning and have been playing the br. Rest assured, the guitars are loud and mixed in yer face. I give it a 9 out of 10.
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ironbellyQuote
bonddmDid Bob Clearmountain mix it?Quote
ironbelly
Somebody on Steve Hoffmans's Music Forum
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Received the deluxe box this morning and have been playing the br. Rest assured, the guitars are loud and mixed in yer face. I give it a 9 out of 10.
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Have no idea. Mine box is on the way from amazon de and local record store does not carry neither 2CD/DVD nor 2CD/Bluray sets.
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glimmertwin1Quote
falo01Quote
FrogSugar
I have the Swinging Pig version. For those who have the new release, is it a night and day difference or would you call it a slight improvement.
I hate buying the same show twice...but...
night & day
the old boots all have the distant arena sound.
this one is very close.
Ok but I m unsure if it's really better audiowise. These from the vault releases are all very catchy on first listen... My boot sounds ok / not perfect but I always liked it despite minor "faults".
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bonddm
Did Bob Clearmountain mix it?
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glimmertwin1Quote
falo01Quote
FrogSugar
I have the Swinging Pig version. For those who have the new release, is it a night and day difference or would you call it a slight improvement.
I hate buying the same show twice...but...
night & day
the old boots all have the distant arena sound.
this one is very close.
Ok but I m unsure if it's really better audiowise. These from the vault releases are all very catchy on first listen... My boot sounds ok / not perfect but I always liked it despite minor "faults".
Vinyl or CD ???
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slowhand
Par for the coarse on these archival Rolling Stones CD releases, the DR values suck on this one. However, it's still by far the best you're going to find for this show, the mix is great with great clarity on all instruments, especially Keith, can't say the same for the old bootleg versions. The Blu-ray is excellent, they obviously did a fantastic restoration, again, blows away the bootlegs. The stereo audio track on the Blu-ray is 24/48, I haven't ripped it yet to see whether the dynamic range is any better on that. I absolutely love this release!
foobar2000 1.5.5 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2020-09-24 23:56:08
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Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Steel Wheels Live
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -1.21 dB -17.68 dB 1:06 ?-01 Intro
DR6 -0.41 dB -7.85 dB 3:47 ?-02 Start Me Up
DR6 -0.21 dB -7.60 dB 3:28 ?-03 Bitch
DR6 -0.21 dB -7.47 dB 3:47 ?-04 Sad Sad Sad
DR7 -0.20 dB -7.85 dB 4:21 ?-05 Undercover Of The Night
DR6 -0.26 dB -7.45 dB 4:34 ?-06 Harlem Shuffle
DR5 -0.36 dB -7.36 dB 4:18 ?-07 Tumbling Dice
DR6 -0.26 dB -8.01 dB 6:43 ?-08 Miss You
DR7 -0.21 dB -8.44 dB 4:59 ?-09 Terrifying
DR6 -0.77 dB -9.44 dB 3:48 ?-10 Ruby Tuesday
DR6 -1.16 dB -8.43 dB 6:02 ?-11 Salt Of The Earth
DR6 -0.23 dB -7.93 dB 5:05 ?-12 Rock And A Hard Place
DR6 -1.08 dB -7.84 dB 5:18 ?-13 Mixed Emotions
DR5 -1.16 dB -7.91 dB 4:55 ?-14 Honky Tonk Women
DR6 -1.02 dB -8.75 dB 10:21 ?-15 Midnight Rambler
DR6 -0.48 dB -8.47 dB 7:18 ?-16 You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR6 -0.22 dB -8.81 dB 6:20 ?-17 Little Red Rooster
DR6 -1.18 dB -8.69 dB 5:32 ?-18 Boogie Chillen
DR6 -1.17 dB -8.33 dB 6:06 ?-19 Can't Be Seen
DR5 -1.17 dB -7.15 dB 4:33 ?-20 Happy
DR6 -1.17 dB -7.48 dB 3:50 ?-21 Paint It Black
DR6 -1.14 dB -10.84 dB 7:24 ?-22 2000 Light Years From Home
DR6 -1.11 dB -8.51 dB 7:41 ?-23 Sympathy For The Devil
DR6 -1.18 dB -8.16 dB 7:32 ?-24 Gimme Shelter
DR6 -1.05 dB -7.67 dB 4:49 ?-25 It's Only Rock 'N' Roll (But I Like It)
DR5 -1.18 dB -7.27 dB 4:36 ?-26 Brown Sugar
DR6 -0.19 dB -7.46 dB 7:26 ?-27 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
DR5 -0.99 dB -6.93 dB 6:36 ?-28 Jumpin' Jack Flash
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Number of tracks: 28
Official DR value: DR6
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 1411 kbps
Codec: PCM
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glimmertwin1Quote
slowhand
Par for the coarse on these archival Rolling Stones CD releases, the DR values suck on this one. However, it's still by far the best you're going to find for this show, the mix is great with great clarity on all instruments, especially Keith, can't say the same for the old bootleg versions. The Blu-ray is excellent, they obviously did a fantastic restoration, again, blows away the bootlegs. The stereo audio track on the Blu-ray is 24/48, I haven't ripped it yet to see whether the dynamic range is any better on that. I absolutely love this release!
foobar2000 1.5.5 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2020-09-24 23:56:08
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Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Steel Wheels Live
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -1.21 dB -17.68 dB 1:06 ?-01 Intro
DR6 -0.41 dB -7.85 dB 3:47 ?-02 Start Me Up
DR6 -0.21 dB -7.60 dB 3:28 ?-03 Bitch
DR6 -0.21 dB -7.47 dB 3:47 ?-04 Sad Sad Sad
DR7 -0.20 dB -7.85 dB 4:21 ?-05 Undercover Of The Night
DR6 -0.26 dB -7.45 dB 4:34 ?-06 Harlem Shuffle
DR5 -0.36 dB -7.36 dB 4:18 ?-07 Tumbling Dice
DR6 -0.26 dB -8.01 dB 6:43 ?-08 Miss You
DR7 -0.21 dB -8.44 dB 4:59 ?-09 Terrifying
DR6 -0.77 dB -9.44 dB 3:48 ?-10 Ruby Tuesday
DR6 -1.16 dB -8.43 dB 6:02 ?-11 Salt Of The Earth
DR6 -0.23 dB -7.93 dB 5:05 ?-12 Rock And A Hard Place
DR6 -1.08 dB -7.84 dB 5:18 ?-13 Mixed Emotions
DR5 -1.16 dB -7.91 dB 4:55 ?-14 Honky Tonk Women
DR6 -1.02 dB -8.75 dB 10:21 ?-15 Midnight Rambler
DR6 -0.48 dB -8.47 dB 7:18 ?-16 You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR6 -0.22 dB -8.81 dB 6:20 ?-17 Little Red Rooster
DR6 -1.18 dB -8.69 dB 5:32 ?-18 Boogie Chillen
DR6 -1.17 dB -8.33 dB 6:06 ?-19 Can't Be Seen
DR5 -1.17 dB -7.15 dB 4:33 ?-20 Happy
DR6 -1.17 dB -7.48 dB 3:50 ?-21 Paint It Black
DR6 -1.14 dB -10.84 dB 7:24 ?-22 2000 Light Years From Home
DR6 -1.11 dB -8.51 dB 7:41 ?-23 Sympathy For The Devil
DR6 -1.18 dB -8.16 dB 7:32 ?-24 Gimme Shelter
DR6 -1.05 dB -7.67 dB 4:49 ?-25 It's Only Rock 'N' Roll (But I Like It)
DR5 -1.18 dB -7.27 dB 4:36 ?-26 Brown Sugar
DR6 -0.19 dB -7.46 dB 7:26 ?-27 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
DR5 -0.99 dB -6.93 dB 6:36 ?-28 Jumpin' Jack Flash
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Number of tracks: 28
Official DR value: DR6
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 1411 kbps
Codec: PCM
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DR isn't everything:
TSP CD 075:
cat ~/Music/1989-12-19\ -\ Atlantic\ City\ \'89/foo_dr.txt
foobar2000 1.3.14 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2016-12-22 11:21:02
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Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / Atlantic City '89
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR5 -2.38 dB -8.24 dB 3:56 01-Start Me Up
DR5 -2.28 dB -8.12 dB 3:42 02-Bitch
DR5 -2.39 dB -8.07 dB 4:02 03-Sad Sad Sad
DR5 -2.47 dB -8.45 dB 4:33 04-Undercover Of The Night
DR5 -2.30 dB -8.11 dB 4:34 05-Harlem Shuffle
DR6 -0.73 dB -8.38 dB 4:32 06-Tumbling Dice
DR5 -2.42 dB -8.24 dB 6:56 07-Miss You
DR5 -2.08 dB -8.54 dB 5:21 08-Terrifying
DR7 -0.30 dB -8.42 dB 4:17 09-Ruby Tuesday
DR5 -2.23 dB -8.27 dB 6:02 10-Salt Of The Earth
DR5 -2.49 dB -8.37 dB 5:12 11-Rock And A Hard Place
DR6 -0.93 dB -8.34 dB 5:32 12-Mixed Emotions
DR5 -2.00 dB -8.26 dB 5:15 13-Honky Tonk Women
DR5 -1.16 dB -8.32 dB 10:46 14-Midnight Rambler
DR5 -1.91 dB -8.24 dB 7:03 15-You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR6 -1.41 dB -8.49 dB 6:40 16-Little Red Rooster
DR6 -1.84 dB -8.41 dB 5:32 17-Boogie Chillen
DR9 -1.54 dB -11.60 dB 6:06 18-Can't Be Seen
DR5 -2.05 dB -8.15 dB 4:38 19-Happy
DR5 -1.87 dB -8.36 dB 4:11 20-Paint It Black
DR5 -1.94 dB -7.92 dB 6:00 21-2000 Light Years From Home
DR5 -1.86 dB -8.00 dB 7:42 22-Sympathy For The Devil
DR6 -0.90 dB -8.07 dB 6:22 23-Gimme Shelter
DR6 -2.10 dB -9.44 dB 1:10 24-Introduction
DR5 -2.13 dB -8.15 dB 4:49 25-It's Only Rock'n'roll
DR5 -2.13 dB -7.93 dB 4:36 26-Brown Sugar
DR8 -1.00 dB -11.20 dB 7:46 27-(I can`t Get No) Satisfaction
DR6 -0.72 dB -7.82 dB 6:27 28-Jumping Jack Flash
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Number of tracks: 28
Official DR value: DR6
Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 1026 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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