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They can't get back on the road. We are in the middle of the worst pandemic in 100 years.
Yes, they could do a "Tatoo You" type album.
In my opinion their song writing days are over with; judging from what they have released since "Steel Wheels". That's why they should stick to a "Tatoo You" type album.
Either that, or let "Blue and Lonesome" be their final album.
Just no. Theres a world of difference between putting vocal overdubs on songs that are 3-4 years old and putting them on songs that are 3-4 decades old.
OK, and not necessarily disagreeing with you but playing devil's advocate, in some respect that could also mean that seeing them in concert limit's the playlist to Blue and Lonesome, and MAYBE ABB.
Anything older than this century should be off the playlist, lest we get the material in Mick's 'old' voice.
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They will not tour until there is a covid-19 vaccine made available for the entire world's population. The Rolling Stones work with a crew from UK, USA and other places, and they would need to travel, eat and be served by "ordinaly people" which may or may not be carrying the virus. Trust science. Trust Dr Fauci. The coronavirus could be as bad as 1918 Spanish flu that killed 50 million people, and yet people talk about touring soon. No wonder the virus is out of control many places.
I don't think it is necessary or even helpful to repeat those unbased fears of yours over and over. May I remind you that we are far, very far away from those numbers of 1918..
The Stones will tour when they think it's Safe, agreed. But can we just wait and see when this will be, while all of us maintain the advised precautions, instead of talking wild guesses? I really enjoy this forum and all your shared knowledge and will do so in the future for sure. I just van not understand why you or anybody else would make comparisons over the lapse of a century, knowing that this World we are living in is not comparable to the early 20th century. And that is not even considering that we still know very little about the corona virus.
It's hard not to be pessimistic when you live in the States and see what the lack of true leadership during this crisis has done to us. And it's repeated by sycophant governors who care little about the health of the voters they serve. I live in Los Angeles, a fairly progressive city. Yet, there are so many that won't wear masks I can't take a walk any time of day or night without encountering them. And I'm the one that has to cross the street to avoid them. Americans are stubborn, stupid, and won't listen to the medical professionals if they don't say what they want to hear.
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They will not tour until there is a covid-19 vaccine made available for the entire world's population. The Rolling Stones work with a crew from UK, USA and other places, and they would need to travel, eat and be served by "ordinaly people" which may or may not be carrying the virus. Trust science. Trust Dr Fauci. The coronavirus could be as bad as 1918 Spanish flu that killed 50 million people, and yet people talk about touring soon. No wonder the virus is out of control many places.
I don't think it is necessary or even helpful to repeat those unbased fears of yours over and over. May I remind you that we are far, very far away from those numbers of 1918..
The Stones will tour when they think it's Safe, agreed. But can we just wait and see when this will be, while all of us maintain the advised precautions, instead of talking wild guesses? I really enjoy this forum and all your shared knowledge and will do so in the future for sure. I just van not understand why you or anybody else would make comparisons over the lapse of a century, knowing that this World we are living in is not comparable to the early 20th century. And that is not even considering that we still know very little about the corona virus.
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>It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too.
Funny thing about death: its generally a fairly permanent state of affairs. That means the death count will ALWAYS go up as those who have died will pretty much remain dead, and any new deaths will of course add to the count.
Just one more example of lack of critical thinking, by the media and others. They need headlines: DEATH COUNT RISES!!!. Well, duh.
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>It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too.
Funny thing about death: its generally a fairly permanent state of affairs. That means the death count will ALWAYS go up as those who have died will pretty much remain dead, and any new deaths will of course add to the count.
Just one more example of lack of critical thinking, by the media and others. They need headlines: DEATH COUNT RISES!!!. Well, duh.
jb
This shows YOUR lack of understanding. Deathcount PER DAY is rising again. If deaths per day go from 300 to 600 is that increasing or a false media narrative?
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>It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too.
Funny thing about death: its generally a fairly permanent state of affairs. That means the death count will ALWAYS go up as those who have died will pretty much remain dead, and any new deaths will of course add to the count.
Just one more example of lack of critical thinking, by the media and others. They need headlines: DEATH COUNT RISES!!!. Well, duh.
jb
This shows YOUR lack of understanding. Deathcount PER DAY is rising again. If deaths per day go from 300 to 600 is that increasing or a false media narrative?
COVID-19 death rates rising was pointed out... then you said death count per day is rising. Which... is the point.
Look at the unreliable website worldometer... death numbers constantly increase. So no one is saying "normal" deaths aren't happening. Some deaths are being falsely being attributed to COVID, like Florida, which lends weight to the bit about hospitals getting whatever amount of thousands of dollars it is today that they get per COVID case.
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>It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too.
Funny thing about death: its generally a fairly permanent state of affairs. That means the death count will ALWAYS go up as those who have died will pretty much remain dead, and any new deaths will of course add to the count.
Just one more example of lack of critical thinking, by the media and others. They need headlines: DEATH COUNT RISES!!!. Well, duh.
jb
This shows YOUR lack of understanding. Deathcount PER DAY is rising again. If deaths per day go from 300 to 600 is that increasing or a false media narrative?
COVID-19 death rates rising was pointed out... then you said death count per day is rising. Which... is the point.
Look at the unreliable website worldometer... death numbers constantly increase. So no one is saying "normal" deaths aren't happening. Some deaths are being falsely being attributed to COVID, like Florida, which lends weight to the bit about hospitals getting whatever amount of thousands of dollars it is today that they get per COVID case.
You have a point there GLS, but the figures we read in all sorts of overviews are not what reality is all about. The numbers of diseased do not take into account (at least in my country) the real number of COVID-19 victims. Over the past 4 months the number of so called "over diseased" goes in to many thousands on to of what's been reported (so far around 6500). Just to make sure what the term means, it's the number of extra diseased in comparison to the average number of diseased in the same period over the past five or so years.
The reporting of some f.i. Latin American countries are even much more way below reality. Several documentaires on TV have shown incredible chaos an dramatic reviews of really desperate people about what's really going on.
"Raise your glass to the X-thousand million, who need leaders but get gamblers instead" ...
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>It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too.
Funny thing about death: its generally a fairly permanent state of affairs. That means the death count will ALWAYS go up as those who have died will pretty much remain dead, and any new deaths will of course add to the count.
Just one more example of lack of critical thinking, by the media and others. They need headlines: DEATH COUNT RISES!!!. Well, duh.
jb
This shows YOUR lack of understanding. Deathcount PER DAY is rising again. If deaths per day go from 300 to 600 is that increasing or a false media narrative?
COVID-19 death rates rising was pointed out... then you said death count per day is rising. Which... is the point.
Look at the unreliable website worldometer... death numbers constantly increase. So no one is saying "normal" deaths aren't happening. Some deaths are being falsely being attributed to COVID, like Florida, which lends weight to the bit about hospitals getting whatever amount of thousands of dollars it is today that they get per COVID case.
You have a point there GLS, but the figures we read in all sorts of overviews are not what reality is all about. The numbers of diseased do not take into account (at least in my country) the real number of COVID-19 victims. Over the past 4 months the number of so called "over diseased" goes in to many thousands on to of what's been reported (so far around 6500). Just to make sure what the term means, it's the number of extra diseased in comparison to the average number of diseased in the same period over the past five or so years.
The reporting of some f.i. Latin American countries are even much more way below reality. Several documentaires on TV have shown incredible chaos an dramatic reviews of really desperate people about what's really going on.
"Raise your glass to the X-thousand million, who need leaders but get gamblers instead" ...
Yeah... I was just sticking to what's going on in the US, which is all over the place, due to the ignorance and arrogance. Obviously elsewhere in the Americas some numbers are wonky but just how exact can anywhere be as it is I'll never know. Under "normal circumstances" of death it takes HOURS sometimes a day or two just to have it reported!
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>It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too.
Funny thing about death: its generally a fairly permanent state of affairs. That means the death count will ALWAYS go up as those who have died will pretty much remain dead, and any new deaths will of course add to the count.
Just one more example of lack of critical thinking, by the media and others. They need headlines: DEATH COUNT RISES!!!. Well, duh.
jb
This shows YOUR lack of understanding. Deathcount PER DAY is rising again. If deaths per day go from 300 to 600 is that increasing or a false media narrative?
COVID-19 death rates rising was pointed out... then you said death count per day is rising. Which... is the point.
Look at the unreliable website worldometer... death numbers constantly increase. So no one is saying "normal" deaths aren't happening. Some deaths are being falsely being attributed to COVID, like Florida, which lends weight to the bit about hospitals getting whatever amount of thousands of dollars it is today that they get per COVID case.
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wonderboy
Ooops, came here to read about the Stones. Carry on.
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bv
Please DO NOT turn this thread into another COVID-19 political discussion. This thread is about The Rolling Stones and their future.
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They will not tour until there is a covid-19 vaccine made available for the entire world's population. The Rolling Stones work with a crew from UK, USA and other places, and they would need to travel, eat and be served by "ordinaly people" which may or may not be carrying the virus. Trust science. Trust Dr Fauci. The coronavirus could be as bad as 1918 Spanish flu that killed 50 million people, and yet people talk about touring soon. No wonder the virus is out of control many places.
I don't think it is necessary or even helpful to repeat those unbased fears of yours over and over. May I remind you that we are far, very far away from those numbers of 1918..
The Stones will tour when they think it's Safe, agreed. But can we just wait and see when this will be, while all of us maintain the advised precautions, instead of talking wild guesses? I really enjoy this forum and all your shared knowledge and will do so in the future for sure. I just van not understand why you or anybody else would make comparisons over the lapse of a century, knowing that this World we are living in is not comparable to the early 20th century. And that is not even considering that we still know very little about the corona virus.
If you really love The Rolling Stones, and you want to have a realistic view on how and when they are going to tour USA, then it is important to understand the facts and the seriousness about the current pandemic.
This is a direct quote from Dr Fauchi - the leading expert on virus in USA, serving six - 6 - presidents, including the current one Mr D. Trump:
On Tuesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that the current coronavirus pandemic has "the makings of a possibility of being" like the 1918 pandemic. Dr. Fauci was speaking during an online forum hosted by Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public.
Some more reasons why it will take long until The Rolling Stones might tour in USA:
Just 50% of Americans plan to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Here’s how to win over the rest (Jun. 30, 2020)
It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too. (Washington Post today July 18, 2020)
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They will not tour until there is a covid-19 vaccine made available for the entire world's population. The Rolling Stones work with a crew from UK, USA and other places, and they would need to travel, eat and be served by "ordinaly people" which may or may not be carrying the virus. Trust science. Trust Dr Fauci. The coronavirus could be as bad as 1918 Spanish flu that killed 50 million people, and yet people talk about touring soon. No wonder the virus is out of control many places.
I don't think it is necessary or even helpful to repeat those unbased fears of yours over and over. May I remind you that we are far, very far away from those numbers of 1918..
The Stones will tour when they think it's Safe, agreed. But can we just wait and see when this will be, while all of us maintain the advised precautions, instead of talking wild guesses? I really enjoy this forum and all your shared knowledge and will do so in the future for sure. I just van not understand why you or anybody else would make comparisons over the lapse of a century, knowing that this World we are living in is not comparable to the early 20th century. And that is not even considering that we still know very little about the corona virus.
If you really love The Rolling Stones, and you want to have a realistic view on how and when they are going to tour USA, then it is important to understand the facts and the seriousness about the current pandemic.
This is a direct quote from Dr Fauchi - the leading expert on virus in USA, serving six - 6 - presidents, including the current one Mr D. Trump:
On Tuesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that the current coronavirus pandemic has "the makings of a possibility of being" like the 1918 pandemic. Dr. Fauci was speaking during an online forum hosted by Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public.
Some more reasons why it will take long until The Rolling Stones might tour in USA:
Just 50% of Americans plan to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Here’s how to win over the rest (Jun. 30, 2020)
It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too. (Washington Post today July 18, 2020)
My love for the Rolling Stones wasn't the point. It's the missonary way you keep spreading fear in yourorum. Maybe it's because of your age and the avarage age of forums users here, , but this fear of the corona virus seems way out of proportion. What Fauci expressed there was an opinion, thats not a fact necessarily. But you know that already. The 1918 pandemic is really a whole other thing, anybody in their right mind and not driven by unrational fears might come to that conclusion.
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They will not tour until there is a covid-19 vaccine made available for the entire world's population. The Rolling Stones work with a crew from UK, USA and other places, and they would need to travel, eat and be served by "ordinaly people" which may or may not be carrying the virus. Trust science. Trust Dr Fauci. The coronavirus could be as bad as 1918 Spanish flu that killed 50 million people, and yet people talk about touring soon. No wonder the virus is out of control many places.
I don't think it is necessary or even helpful to repeat those unbased fears of yours over and over. May I remind you that we are far, very far away from those numbers of 1918..
The Stones will tour when they think it's Safe, agreed. But can we just wait and see when this will be, while all of us maintain the advised precautions, instead of talking wild guesses? I really enjoy this forum and all your shared knowledge and will do so in the future for sure. I just van not understand why you or anybody else would make comparisons over the lapse of a century, knowing that this World we are living in is not comparable to the early 20th century. And that is not even considering that we still know very little about the corona virus.
If you really love The Rolling Stones, and you want to have a realistic view on how and when they are going to tour USA, then it is important to understand the facts and the seriousness about the current pandemic.
This is a direct quote from Dr Fauchi - the leading expert on virus in USA, serving six - 6 - presidents, including the current one Mr D. Trump:
On Tuesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that the current coronavirus pandemic has "the makings of a possibility of being" like the 1918 pandemic. Dr. Fauci was speaking during an online forum hosted by Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public.
Some more reasons why it will take long until The Rolling Stones might tour in USA:
Just 50% of Americans plan to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Here’s how to win over the rest (Jun. 30, 2020)
It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too. (Washington Post today July 18, 2020)
My love for the Rolling Stones wasn't the point. It's the missonary way you keep spreading fear in yourorum. Maybe it's because of your age and the avarage age of forums users here, , but this fear of the corona virus seems way out of proportion. What Fauci expressed there was an opinion, thats not a fact necessarily. But you know that already. The 1918 pandemic is really a whole other thing, anybody in their right mind and not driven by unrational fears might come to that conclusion.
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They will not tour until there is a covid-19 vaccine made available for the entire world's population. The Rolling Stones work with a crew from UK, USA and other places, and they would need to travel, eat and be served by "ordinaly people" which may or may not be carrying the virus. Trust science. Trust Dr Fauci. The coronavirus could be as bad as 1918 Spanish flu that killed 50 million people, and yet people talk about touring soon. No wonder the virus is out of control many places.
I don't think it is necessary or even helpful to repeat those unbased fears of yours over and over. May I remind you that we are far, very far away from those numbers of 1918..
The Stones will tour when they think it's Safe, agreed. But can we just wait and see when this will be, while all of us maintain the advised precautions, instead of talking wild guesses? I really enjoy this forum and all your shared knowledge and will do so in the future for sure. I just van not understand why you or anybody else would make comparisons over the lapse of a century, knowing that this World we are living in is not comparable to the early 20th century. And that is not even considering that we still know very little about the corona virus.
If you really love The Rolling Stones, and you want to have a realistic view on how and when they are going to tour USA, then it is important to understand the facts and the seriousness about the current pandemic.
This is a direct quote from Dr Fauchi - the leading expert on virus in USA, serving six - 6 - presidents, including the current one Mr D. Trump:
On Tuesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that the current coronavirus pandemic has "the makings of a possibility of being" like the 1918 pandemic. Dr. Fauci was speaking during an online forum hosted by Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public.
Some more reasons why it will take long until The Rolling Stones might tour in USA:
Just 50% of Americans plan to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Here’s how to win over the rest (Jun. 30, 2020)
It’s not only coronavirus cases that are rising. Now covid deaths are, too. (Washington Post today July 18, 2020)
My love for the Rolling Stones wasn't the point. It's the missonary way you keep spreading fear in yourorum. Maybe it's because of your age and the avarage age of forums users here, , but this fear of the corona virus seems way out of proportion. What Fauci expressed there was an opinion, thats not a fact necessarily. But you know that already. The 1918 pandemic is really a whole other thing, anybody in their right mind and not driven by unrational fears might come to that conclusion.
calipachangero, you have a grave misunderstanding of COVID-19. It's not fear, it's reality. You are not grasping the aspect of 1918. America is running like crazy towards 1918. The world is watching "America" and shaking its collective damn head.
People keep saying "Oh only 140,000 deaths out of 3 million infected, what are you scared of?" are not paying attention. They're acting like it's been here before. There's a reason it's called "novel".
Opinions winning out over science. Fake patriotism is louder than science. Fake science is louder than science. Liberty and money louder than science. People are having COVID parties, getting stabbed and shot for not wearing a mask, for being asked to wear a mask, because it's so... liberty and life threatening and communist and socialist to wear a mask. Instead of just being an adult and being responsible and.., wearing a mask.
They think it's like how people used to do "herd immunity" with the chickenpox by collecting their kids with the one infected kid.
A very bad idea to begin with and COVID is not the chicken pox - it's a non-human animal virus ie a novel virus.
Anyone in North America that wants to see the Rolling Stones play live again very likely will not see them in North America ever again.
It's all connected.
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My love for the Rolling Stones wasn't the point. It's the missonary way you keep spreading fear in yourorum. Maybe it's because of your age and the avarage age of forums users here, , but this fear of the corona virus seems way out of proportion. What Fauci expressed there was an opinion, thats not a fact necessarily. But you know that already. The 1918 pandemic is really a whole other thing, anybody in their right mind and not driven by unrational fears might come to that conclusion.
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According to this article in Variety, no shows until 2022