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California now jumping on the incentives bandwagon...
(CNN) California will unveil $116.5 million in vaccine incentives
Vaccine$$$
In an effort to get more people vaccinated, California is enticing residents with a whopping $116.5 million in incentives, offering gift cards and cash prizes, including a $15 million grand prize to be split among 10 Californians who have been vaccinated against Covid-19. The $116.5 million program, touted as "the biggest in the entire country," will include every resident who has already been vaccinated, and those who receive a shot before the state fully reopens on June 15, according to a release from Gov. Gavin Newsom's office.
Starting today, the next two million residents vaccinated will be eligible for $100 million in gift cards, doled out in $50 increments as a prepaid Visa or grocery store gift card. The incentive festivities will include "$50,000 Fridays." There will be $50,000 up for grabs in the form of 30 cash prizes for those getting a Covid-19 shot on June 4 and June 11, with 15 winners selected on each date.
About 50% of eligible Californians are already fully vaccinated and another 12% have received one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine, but another 12 million residents are eligible but have not yet been inoculated. More than 37 million doses total have been administered in California — more than all but five nations in the world, according to Newsom. Should a winner under the age of 18 be chosen, the cash will be placed into a savings account for them until they turn 18. Inmates, those who work for the state's health department or for the lottery will not be eligible to win any of the prizes.
I wish this was not necessary but if it puts shots in arms I am all for it. I will have to use this on the cute bank teller at my bank who is hesitant. She is the target market.
And if it's necessary here in California, imagine other states where the hesitancy/antivaxx percentages are much larger.
Money, donuts, and beer can only get you so far...it's gonna take a miracle...
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I just don't understand those who resist taking the vaccine.
Yes same here bv .... where i work a number
of guys still dont want to get vaccinated ... strange
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I just don't understand those who resist taking the vaccine.
Yes same here bv .... where i work a number
of guys still dont want to get vaccinated ... strange
Total lack of self esteme ...
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I just don't understand those who resist taking the vaccine.
Yes same here bv .... where i work a number
of guys still dont want to get vaccinated ... strange
Total lack of self esteme ...
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And they've made that decision for themselves so the easy argument is that when they get it they've only hurt themselves (and of course maybe their children in those cases). The even bigger issue is the evolution of the virus into strains that are vaccine resistant/more transmissable or deadly. In that eventually everyone is again impacted.
That is a selfishness that I can't quite get my mind around.
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And they've made that decision for themselves so the easy argument is that when they get it they've only hurt themselves (and of course maybe their children in those cases). The even bigger issue is the evolution of the virus into strains that are vaccine resistant/more transmissable or deadly. In that eventually everyone is again impacted.
That is a selfishness that I can't quite get my mind around.
Sadly, they are also hurting anyone who may need surgery or diagnostic testing that the health care systems currently can’t perform as their resources continue to be overwhelmed caring for COVID patients.
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And they've made that decision for themselves so the easy argument is that when they get it they've only hurt themselves (and of course maybe their children in those cases). The even bigger issue is the evolution of the virus into strains that are vaccine resistant/more transmissable or deadly. In that eventually everyone is again impacted.
That is a selfishness that I can't quite get my mind around.
Sadly, they are also hurting anyone who may need surgery or diagnostic testing that the health care systems currently can’t perform as their resources continue to be overwhelmed caring for COVID patients.
this is 100% a fair point...
but a similar point could be made about those who allowed themselves to get obese and did/do nothing about it.
they are driving up health care costs and overcrowding our hospitals. It's a clear fact that obesity is a driving factor in hospitalizations due to Covid....(point: it's not JUST Covid...it's Covid + Obesity)
we had a public health crisis of obesity LOOOOONG before Covid....and Covid illustrated that crisis....and we're doing nothing about it.
we want the vaccine to save us instead....and then blame our problems on those who won't take it.
fine w/ me...but, your best plan moving-forward is to lose weight, get in shape, make smart health & eating choices.
...and get the Vax.
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And they've made that decision for themselves so the easy argument is that when they get it they've only hurt themselves (and of course maybe their children in those cases). The even bigger issue is the evolution of the virus into strains that are vaccine resistant/more transmissable or deadly. In that eventually everyone is again impacted.
That is a selfishness that I can't quite get my mind around.
Sadly, they are also hurting anyone who may need surgery or diagnostic testing that the health care systems currently can’t perform as their resources continue to be overwhelmed caring for COVID patients.
this is 100% a fair point...
but a similar point could be made about those who allowed themselves to get obese and did/do nothing about it.
they are driving up health care costs and overcrowding our hospitals. It's a clear fact that obesity is a driving factor in hospitalizations due to Covid....(point: it's not JUST Covid...it's Covid + Obesity)
we had a public health crisis of obesity LOOOOONG before Covid....and Covid illustrated that crisis....and we're doing nothing about it.
we want the vaccine to save us instead....and then blame our problems on those who won't take it.
fine w/ me...but, your best plan moving-forward is to lose weight, get in shape, make smart health & eating choices.
...and get the Vax.
Don't think that anyone would argue those points, except to say that's how society operates generally. I live in an area where people go on hikes in the forest, go off the marked trails and get lost. We still rescue these people.
You can argue, hey, you did it to yourself, but that's not what we do. Everyone knows that smoking causes ill health, but in Canada, and I suspect anywhere with Universal Health Care, you get treatment, free.
We collectively all make bad choices, some worse than others but we take care of each other in society. It's the compact with have with each other...almost like group insurance.
So yes, there will be those that choose not to get the vaccine, and there'll be those that say 'serves them right', and 'they should have to pay for their own care' if they end up in the hospital. In a society though, we take care of one another despite our collective bad choices, and hope that education will eventually create a better understanding and better choices with more people.
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And they've made that decision for themselves so the easy argument is that when they get it they've only hurt themselves (and of course maybe their children in those cases). The even bigger issue is the evolution of the virus into strains that are vaccine resistant/more transmissable or deadly. In that eventually everyone is again impacted.
That is a selfishness that I can't quite get my mind around.
Sadly, they are also hurting anyone who may need surgery or diagnostic testing that the health care systems currently can’t perform as their resources continue to be overwhelmed caring for COVID patients.
this is 100% a fair point...
but a similar point could be made about those who allowed themselves to get obese and did/do nothing about it.
they are driving up health care costs and overcrowding our hospitals. It's a clear fact that obesity is a driving factor in hospitalizations due to Covid....(point: it's not JUST Covid...it's Covid + Obesity)
we had a public health crisis of obesity LOOOOONG before Covid....and Covid illustrated that crisis....and we're doing nothing about it.
we want the vaccine to save us instead....and then blame our problems on those who won't take it.
fine w/ me...but, your best plan moving-forward is to lose weight, get in shape, make smart health & eating choices.
...and get the Vax.
Don't think that anyone would argue those points, except to say that's how society operates generally. I live in an area where people go on hikes in the forest, go off the marked trails and get lost. We still rescue these people.
You can argue, hey, you did it to yourself, but that's not what we do. Everyone knows that smoking causes ill health, but in Canada, and I suspect anywhere with Universal Health Care, you get treatment, free.
We collectively all make bad choices, some worse than others but we take care of each other in society. It's the compact with have with each other...almost like group insurance.
So yes, there will be those that choose not to get the vaccine, and there'll be those that say 'serves them right', and 'they should have to pay for their own care' if they end up in the hospital. In a society though, we take care of one another despite our collective bad choices, and hope that education will eventually create a better understanding and better choices with more people.
I would vote for you to be World Leader.
great stuff, TF
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I just don't understand those who resist taking the vaccine. In Norway there is just one discussion now : vaccine politics. Everybody do want the vaccine, it's just a matter of who should be first, or rather last, when everyone at risk, and everyone above age 65 have got their shots. Age, teachers, politicians, royalties, supreme court all of that. By the end of July they say most of the population age 18+ will be vaccinated. Late summer will be very very different, when the virus does not find any place to live, antibodies everywhere.
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And they've made that decision for themselves so the easy argument is that when they get it they've only hurt themselves (and of course maybe their children in those cases). The even bigger issue is the evolution of the virus into strains that are vaccine resistant/more transmissable or deadly. In that eventually everyone is again impacted.
That is a selfishness that I can't quite get my mind around.
Sadly, they are also hurting anyone who may need surgery or diagnostic testing that the health care systems currently can’t perform as their resources continue to be overwhelmed caring for COVID patients.
this is 100% a fair point...
but a similar point could be made about those who allowed themselves to get obese and did/do nothing about it.
they are driving up health care costs and overcrowding our hospitals. It's a clear fact that obesity is a driving factor in hospitalizations due to Covid....(point: it's not JUST Covid...it's Covid + Obesity)
we had a public health crisis of obesity LOOOOONG before Covid....and Covid illustrated that crisis....and we're doing nothing about it.
we want the vaccine to save us instead....and then blame our problems on those who won't take it.
fine w/ me...but, your best plan moving-forward is to lose weight, get in shape, make smart health & eating choices.
...and get the Vax.
Don't think that anyone would argue those points, except to say that's how society operates generally. I live in an area where people go on hikes in the forest, go off the marked trails and get lost. We still rescue these people.
You can argue, hey, you did it to yourself, but that's not what we do. Everyone knows that smoking causes ill health, but in Canada, and I suspect anywhere with Universal Health Care, you get treatment, free.
We collectively all make bad choices, some worse than others but we take care of each other in society. It's the compact with have with each other...almost like group insurance.
So yes, there will be those that choose not to get the vaccine, and there'll be those that say 'serves them right', and 'they should have to pay for their own care' if they end up in the hospital. In a society though, we take care of one another despite our collective bad choices, and hope that education will eventually create a better understanding and better choices with more people.
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And they've made that decision for themselves so the easy argument is that when they get it they've only hurt themselves (and of course maybe their children in those cases). The even bigger issue is the evolution of the virus into strains that are vaccine resistant/more transmissable or deadly. In that eventually everyone is again impacted.
That is a selfishness that I can't quite get my mind around.
Sadly, they are also hurting anyone who may need surgery or diagnostic testing that the health care systems currently can’t perform as their resources continue to be overwhelmed caring for COVID patients.
this is 100% a fair point...
but a similar point could be made about those who allowed themselves to get obese and did/do nothing about it.
they are driving up health care costs and overcrowding our hospitals. It's a clear fact that obesity is a driving factor in hospitalizations due to Covid....(point: it's not JUST Covid...it's Covid + Obesity)
we had a public health crisis of obesity LOOOOONG before Covid....and Covid illustrated that crisis....and we're doing nothing about it.
we want the vaccine to save us instead....and then blame our problems on those who won't take it.
fine w/ me...but, your best plan moving-forward is to lose weight, get in shape, make smart health & eating choices.
...and get the Vax.
Don't think that anyone would argue those points, except to say that's how society operates generally. I live in an area where people go on hikes in the forest, go off the marked trails and get lost. We still rescue these people.
You can argue, hey, you did it to yourself, but that's not what we do. Everyone knows that smoking causes ill health, but in Canada, and I suspect anywhere with Universal Health Care, you get treatment, free.
We collectively all make bad choices, some worse than others but we take care of each other in society. It's the compact with have with each other...almost like group insurance.
So yes, there will be those that choose not to get the vaccine, and there'll be those that say 'serves them right', and 'they should have to pay for their own care' if they end up in the hospital. In a society though, we take care of one another despite our collective bad choices, and hope that education will eventually create a better understanding and better choices with more people.
Yeah man I think you are on to something here, and I wish those "anti vaxers" would realize the truth in your points and also realize their ignoring good advice costs everybody. Unfortunately, if they thought like that, they would not be anti vaxers, and furthermore when they thought about it they would have to reject it as "socialist" without realizing they would be the beneficiaries of any socialism in this country, whether they caught the latest plague or not.
So thats the basic problem: the safety net is there for them whether they want it or not and it allows them to Ted-Nugent all day and not really have to fear any consequences.
Try that in Uganda or DRC sometime and see what happens
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Vietnam reports new hybrid variant
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Sunday 06/06/21 I will go to see Lisa Fisher perform in a club. I want to be tested for Covid 19 after I go to the show. How many days should I wait before getting tested?
Rockandroll,
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Moderna has applied for full approval by the FDA.
That approval will certainly change some things...
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Conspiracy theories posted here will be deleted. There is no space for such stuff on IORR.
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Conspiracy theories posted here will be deleted. There is no space for such stuff on IORR.