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We don't and can't know anything now as to tour or no tour this fall. They've shown us that they only need two or three months between announcing a tour and when the tour begins. So if they plan to start in September or October and things look good a couple of months out, they may decide to go ahead. But we (and they) may not know til July or August. Tell me why I am wrong.
plexi
You may be right. Everyone seems to think Charlie won’t play in the cold, so I’d think they’d be wise to start mid-August and end in mid-October. Announcing the makeup dates this month makes the most sense to me.
Looking at what Tom said and BV added to that 2021 dates for US, Europe for 2022, are scheduled they have every incentive in the world to make the dates happen.
Especially given the context Tom provided that 2022 US dates were even more difficult to schedule given the backlog of shows. I think patience is the key here.
If there’s a way to make 2021 happen, they’ll find it.
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daspyknows
jbwelda you know a lot. One of the sane and reasonable voices here.
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terraplane
They could just increase ticket/merchandise prices and offset costs in other ways I guess.
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timbernardis
Agreed on all points, especially PATIENCE IS THE KEY. Just one question -- who is Tom?
plexi
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bye bye johnny
No source cited, but another tweet from the aforementioned MF Remillard:
If The #RollingStones are touring again after #covid, they will have to pay 20% more insurance on the gross.
#insurance #concerts
[twitter.com]
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timbernardis
We don't and can't know anything now as to tour or no tour this fall. They've shown us that they only need two or three months between announcing a tour and when the tour begins. So if they plan to start in September or October and things look good a couple of months out, they may decide to go ahead. But we (and they) may not know til July or August. Tell me why I am wrong.
plexi
You may be right. Everyone seems to think Charlie won’t play in the cold, so I’d think they’d be wise to start mid-August and end in mid-October. Announcing the makeup dates this month makes the most sense to me.
Looking at what Tom said and BV added to that 2021 dates for US, Europe for 2022, are scheduled they have every incentive in the world to make the dates happen.
Especially given the context Tom provided that 2022 US dates were even more difficult to schedule given the backlog of shows. I think patience is the key here.
If there’s a way to make 2021 happen, they’ll find it.
Agreed on all points, especially PATIENCE IS THE KEY. Just one question -- who is Tom?
plexi
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The US as a whole will NEVER get to 75%. Many states will but many more will never hit 50%.
Truth. Never going to happen.
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daspyknows
The US as a whole will NEVER get to 75%. Many states will but many more will never hit 50%.
Truth. Never going to happen.
Add in the folks who have already had Covid and have natural immunity and you're pretty darn close if not already there or beyond.
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bye bye johnny
No source cited, but another tweet from the aforementioned MF Remillard:
If The #RollingStones are touring again after #covid, they will have to pay 20% more insurance on the gross.
#insurance #concerts
[twitter.com]
No prizes for guessing who’ll ultimately foot the bill for that extra touring cost!
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daspyknows
The US as a whole will NEVER get to 75%. Many states will but many more will never hit 50%.
Truth. Never going to happen.
Add in the folks who have already had Covid and have natural immunity and you're pretty darn close if not already there or beyond.
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bye bye johnny
No source cited, but another tweet from the aforementioned MF Remillard:
If The #RollingStones are touring again after #covid, they will have to pay 20% more insurance on the gross.
#insurance #concerts
[twitter.com]
No prizes for guessing who’ll ultimately foot the bill for that extra touring cost!
Could be the age factor - can't think of any other band as old as the Stones who are hoping to play in massive football stadiums with tens of thousands of people in attendance.
And then there's the various health issues the band members have had (past, and possibly in the present) - we'd like to think they're invincible, but clearly they're human.
As mpj200 said a couple weeks ago regarding insurance, "That water is a bit murky right now", but maybe now things are getting a bit clearer with 20% more being added to the bill.
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daspyknows
The US as a whole will NEVER get to 75%. Many states will but many more will never hit 50%.
Truth. Never going to happen.
Add in the folks who have already had Covid and have natural immunity and you're pretty darn close if not already there or beyond.
Sixty five percent (data below three days old) of adult Americans have already had their first shot, with over 53% of them fully vaxxed.
This is before you factor in children and those already infected.
*New prediction (as all my others have come to pass or are in spitting distance)
By first show (in 2021 as I've predicted early and often) 80% of US adults will be either fully vaxxed or have had their first shot. Factor in people who've got some immunity from catching the virus and 75% is nearly a lock.
"What percent of the US is vaccinated?
Already 63 percent of adult Americans have received at least one shot, and 52 percent of adult Americans are fully vaccinated. Already 12 states have 70 percent of adults with at least one shot"
[www.whitehouse.gov]
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The US as a whole will NEVER get to 75%. Many states will but many more will never hit 50%.
Truth. Never going to happen.
Add in the folks who have already had Covid and have natural immunity and you're pretty darn close if not already there or beyond.
Sixty five percent (data below three days old) of adult Americans have already had their first shot, with over 53% of them fully vaxxed.
This is before you factor in children and those already infected.
*New prediction (as all my others have come to pass or are in spitting distance)
By first show (in 2021 as I've predicted early and often) 80% of US adults will be either fully vaxxed or have had their first shot. Factor in people who've got some immunity from catching the virus and 75% is nearly a lock.
"What percent of the US is vaccinated?
Already 63 percent of adult Americans have received at least one shot, and 52 percent of adult Americans are fully vaccinated. Already 12 states have 70 percent of adults with at least one shot"
[www.whitehouse.gov]
I think this is rather misleading, though, because it's averaging out regional variations. Some parts of the country will get to 90+% vaccination, whereas other parts, especially the Deep South, won't break the 50% mark. Where I live we've been stuck on 32% (not 36% has I'd earlier thought) for weeks, and despite incentives I don't see it going significantly higher. (So the upshot is that you'd be a lot safer going to a show without Covid restrictions in the northeast than you would going to one in the south, for example.)
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grzegorz67
It will be interesting to see how they recoup the extra costs, given most tickets have already been sold. More expensive merch and food is my guess.
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Topi
Do the food/concession revenues go to the band, though? I don't think so. Merch, of course, does.
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grzegorz67
It will be interesting to see how they recoup the extra costs, given most tickets have already been sold. More expensive merch and food is my guess.
Reminds me of the deluxe Hazmat suits w/tongue logo someone mentioned previously - they'll cost $1,000 , and will now be required for entry!
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It will be interesting to see how they recoup the extra costs, given most tickets have already been sold. More expensive merch and food is my guess.
Reminds me of the deluxe Hazmat suits w/tongue logo someone mentioned previously - they'll cost $1,000 , and will now be required for entry!
I had to were one of those in a motel in Brooklyn