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Earliest group photo
Posted by: masoudi ()
Date: November 4, 2019 08:42

Hi all I’m busy reading the latest Mojo Stones collector series 62-69. There is a photo of the group from April 14 1963 at Ken Colyers club which I had never seen before. A brilliant picture. Is that the earliest group picture. There is the Mick J one from May 1962 with him fronting Blues Incorporated. I believe I’ve seen some Marquee ones of Brian and or Keith but not a group one. Would love to hear from anyone who can post some of the earliest group shots and conformation of what is believed to be the earliest one. Perhaps the ones taken by Phillip Townsend outside Edith Grove? Cheers Brendon from NZ

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 4, 2019 09:43



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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 4, 2019 09:54



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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: masoudi ()
Date: November 4, 2019 10:37

Thanks Rockman. Where is that article from? It also says these photographs? I have only seen the one in Mojo. Can you point me in the direction to find the others?

Cheers Brendon

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: masoudi ()
Date: November 4, 2019 10:43

Got it. Google is my friend. I had seen a couple of those before. So those are the earliest live group shots??

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 4, 2019 10:53

The article is from ….

The Rolling Stones On Camera, Off Guard 1963-69 -- Mark Hayward.

There are three more shots different of Studio 51 gig …..

ROCKMAN

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: November 4, 2019 15:30

The earliest newspaper article to feature photographs.
They were taken at the Station Hotel on April 7, 1963.




"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: November 4, 2019 16:40

All pictures ca. 1963:


[www.GettyImages.com]


[www.GettyImages.com]


[www.GettyImages.com]


[www.GettyImages.com]


[www.GettyImages.com]



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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: November 4, 2019 17:30

Charlie didn't play with the Stones until mid January 1963 so any photo featuring him can not be 1962.


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: November 4, 2019 18:00

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Deltics

Charlie didn't play with the Stones until mid January 1963 so any photo featuring him can not be 1962.

Yep - Charlie played his first gig with the Rolling Stones on 12 January 1963 in London, Ealing Jazz Club. And Bill Wyman joined in on 7 December 1962.

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: HalfNanker ()
Date: November 4, 2019 21:07

in the next to last pic above, Keith look s like he could be a distant relative of the kid from Deliverance!

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: November 4, 2019 21:39

I believe one or two of the pics are in More Hot Rocks.

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: November 4, 2019 21:45

Quote
masoudi

Perhaps the ones taken by Philip Townsend outside Edith Grove?

This should be one of them:


[TheArtsDesk.com]


Another one:


[www.Invaluable.com] - (by Philip Townsend, Stones first photo session, Edith Grove, London, June 1963)



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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: November 4, 2019 21:51


Is the 3rd picture the one that prompted the "one of them looks like he has a feather duster on his head" remark?

"No Anchovies, Please"

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 4, 2019 22:05



Photo from Mojo Stones collector series 62-69...…

ROCKMAN

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: November 4, 2019 22:16

Quote
masoudi
Hi all I’m busy reading the latest Mojo Stones collector series 62-69. There is a photo of the group from April 14 1963 at Ken Colyers club which I had never seen before. A brilliant picture. Is that the earliest group picture. There is the Mick J one from May 1962 with him fronting Blues Incorporated. I believe I’ve seen some Marquee ones of Brian and or Keith but not a group one. Would love to hear from anyone who can post some of the earliest group shots and conformation of what is believed to be the earliest one. Perhaps the ones taken by Phillip Townsend outside Edith Grove? Cheers Brendon from NZ

There is a photo taken in December 1962 with Brian, Keith, Mick and ... Bill. It appeared on the Stones App a couple of years ago. So basically one step before the perfect team.

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 4, 2019 22:34



Studio 51 - Great Newport Street London -- Sunday 14 April 1963 …..

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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: November 4, 2019 22:45

By Dezo Hoffman, credited as May 1963:


Large picture - [www.Shutterstock.com]


Large picture - [www.Shutterstock.com]


By Dezo Hoffman, credited as 19th July 1963:


[iorr.org]


By Dezo Hoffman, credited as September 1963:


Large version -- [www.Leski.com.au]


[www.RollingStone.com]



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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 4, 2019 23:08



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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: November 4, 2019 23:13

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Rockman

Blues Plus Six aka Blues By Six featured Charlie Watts on drums.


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Ket ()
Date: November 4, 2019 23:16

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Deltics
Quote
Rockman

Blues Plus Six aka Blues By Six featured Charlie Watts on drums.

This is such a great photo, have not seen it in years. thanks for sharing!

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: November 4, 2019 23:20

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Ket

This is such a great photo, have not seen it in years. thanks for sharing!

It's also here: [www.TimeIsOnOurSide.com] .

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: November 4, 2019 23:22

Quote
Irix
Quote
masoudi

Perhaps the ones taken by Philip Townsend outside Edith Grove?

This should be one of them:


[TheArtsDesk.com]


Another one:


[www.Invaluable.com] - (by Philip Townsend, Stones first photo session, Edith Grove, London, June 1963)

For me these by Townsend are easily the best of the early photos.

As this is a thread about EARLIEST images, it's worth noting that in Rolling With The Stones Bill dates this session as being 4th May 1963 (p42), there are also photos on p48 and p52 dated April 1963

--
Captain Corella
50+ Years a Fan

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 4, 2019 23:31



Always thought that Graham Ackers
looks so much like a young Bob Dylan …..


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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 4, 2019 23:44



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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: November 4, 2019 23:49



I scanned these photos from Roy Carr's "An Illustrated Record" published in 1976 and happily accepted the descriptions for many years.
But then, a few years ago some more photos from the same night were published one of which clearly shows Charlie on drums















Charlie on drums:


I don't know when or where these were taken but Keith is clearly playing his Gallotone Valencia guitar which he replaced in February '63.
If there's anything of truth in the original description of them being the Stones' first gig at the Marquee then it could be that they're from the Marquee on January 17, 1963 which was the first time that the final line up played at the Marquee.
This is pure speculation on my behalf but, I think, food for thought.
Photos taken on stage by Stu?


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"



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Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 5, 2019 00:21



From Bill Wyman - Rolling With The Stones ….. page 50

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Re: Earliest group photo
Date: November 5, 2019 01:28

Quote
Rockman


From Bill Wyman - Rolling With The Stones ….. page 50

Look at that schedule! I guess when you joined the Stones, you really signed up.

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 5, 2019 01:46

Cop this then Palace ... …….



Bill Wyman - Rolling With The Stones ….. page 51

ROCKMAN

Re: Earliest group photo
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: November 5, 2019 02:04

Thanks for all the detailed posts - very informative. Are there any photos of
the Stones playing at the Flamingo? If not maybe just photos showing the inside?

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