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RStones2550
They're both in standard tuning but use a capo on different frets
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MichaelLassen
That false start with Rambler was amazing. Would have loved to be a mindreader in those first 30 sec where everyone tag along for the doomed ride! lol
And great response all way around! :-)
And 6 songchanges out of 20 is very cool. Especially compared to Aerosmith who does the same 17 songs every night in their Vegas thing.
why take a dig at another band when clearly you don't understand how vegas works and your post showed it. every act that plays vegas for multiple nights does the same show. that's the point. its timed out for the casino so that they know how long the people will stop gambling. every aspect of the show has been run through numerous times and given the ok by the casino. I use to deal with stuff like that. if the stones did a long vegas stint they too would be forced to make very little if any changes.
that being said longtime aerosmith fans are happy to see these songs in the setlist
seasons of wither
kings and queens
draw the line
it looks like aerosmith just hit about the 1/2 way point of their stint and did make some changes. lets see if these changes stay for the rest of the stint.
they dropped:
mama kin
back in the saddle
come together
replaced with:
draw the line
rag doll
chip away the stone
before they were playing walkin the dog during the encore instead of come together so yes despite the rigid way vegas casinos work they have made some changes
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MichaelLassen
That false start with Rambler was amazing. Would have loved to be a mindreader in those first 30 sec where everyone tag along for the doomed ride! lol
And great response all way around! :-)
And 6 songchanges out of 20 is very cool. Especially compared to Aerosmith who does the same 17 songs every night in their Vegas thing.
why take a dig at another band when clearly you don't understand how vegas works and your post showed it. every act that plays vegas for multiple nights does the same show. that's the point. its timed out for the casino so that they know how long the people will stop gambling. every aspect of the show has been run through numerous times and given the ok by the casino. I use to deal with stuff like that. if the stones did a long vegas stint they too would be forced to make very little if any changes.
that being said longtime aerosmith fans are happy to see these songs in the setlist
seasons of wither
kings and queens
draw the line
it looks like aerosmith just hit about the 1/2 way point of their stint and did make some changes. lets see if these changes stay for the rest of the stint.
they dropped:
mama kin
back in the saddle
come together
replaced with:
draw the line
rag doll
chip away the stone
before they were playing walkin the dog during the encore instead of come together so yes despite the rigid way vegas casinos work they have made some changes
How about a little You Gotta Move intro before Hangman Jury from the Toxic Twins?!?!
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RStones2550
They're both in standard tuning but use a capo on different frets
Exactly. To be even more precise, PIB has the capo in the 2nd fret, MR in the 7th. A HUGE difference - 5 frets. Why it went unnoticed by Keith is a small miracle. Yes, it was fun, but no, it was not "pure gold", because it sounded like shit!
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sundevil
shows #97 & #98 for me. due to the schedule changes it's probably the last time i see the stones. mick was fantastic but i was really disappointed in keith and his lack of preparation. with mick having such a major procedure i was expecting keith to pick up were he left off in warsaw. it seems he hasn't touched a guitar since last summer. 'monkey man' was a major mistake as the song vote. the head bump was a major event for him, too, and he needs to stop "winging it" like he's twenty-five. friday night it looked like he had food poisoning and tuesday his playing wasn't much better. it got to the point of almost writing off this tour as one time too many until 'paint it black' smoked. smoking rambler, too. if i was going to more shows i'd just put these shows in the 'milwaukee' column and just wait until another K.C. but some people only see One show and keith needs to put in the work like mick does and respect the fans. they did have darryl cranked extra loud to make up for keith and that was good. it didn't hide the mistakes but the bass complimented the notes. keith finally 'snapped' out of it during 'rambler'. luckily everyone else will get better shows.
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sundevil
shows #97 & #98 for me. due to the schedule changes it's probably the last time i see the stones. mick was fantastic but i was really disappointed in keith and his lack of preparation. with mick having such a major procedure i was expecting keith to pick up were he left off in warsaw. it seems he hasn't touched a guitar since last summer. 'monkey man' was a major mistake as the song vote. the head bump was a major event for him, too, and he needs to stop "winging it" like he's twenty-five. friday night it looked like he had food poisoning and tuesday his playing wasn't much better. it got to the point of almost writing off this tour as one time too many until 'paint it black' smoked. smoking rambler, too. if i was going to more shows i'd just put these shows in the 'milwaukee' column and just wait until another K.C. but some people only see One show and keith needs to put in the work like mick does and respect the fans. they did have darryl cranked extra loud to make up for keith and that was good. it didn't hide the mistakes but the bass complimented the notes. keith finally 'snapped' out of it during 'rambler'. luckily everyone else will get better shows.
I'm watching something with my own eyes and ears that differs greatly to what you experienced. Admittedly i'm going by youtube footage but Keith comes across as more rehearsed than on other tours recently. His guitar is very loud, where does the bass make up for it ? I thought Keith sang and played really well on his solo set too, the only thing i would say is Keith hasn't come in match fit physically but i bet he's moving well by show 7, i mean the man is 76 this year, he's moving better than Clapton etc. We can't all be Mick Jagger i'm afraid, that is a dedication to fitness that has been a sacrifice that someone like Keith would not be prepared to do, i think we all know that and we all know that Keith has led a life of excess, enjoy what he does have to offer because very soon now we won't be able to see the Stones and the opportunity for you to criticize them will be gone forever.
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northernale1
I don't know. But for me. Live music has mistakes and different cuts.
If it sounded just like the album. Well I may as well listen to the album.
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sundevil
shows #97 & #98 for me. due to the schedule changes it's probably the last time i see the stones. mick was fantastic but i was really disappointed in keith and his lack of preparation. with mick having such a major procedure i was expecting keith to pick up were he left off in warsaw. it seems he hasn't touched a guitar since last summer. 'monkey man' was a major mistake as the song vote. the head bump was a major event for him, too, and he needs to stop "winging it" like he's twenty-five. friday night it looked like he had food poisoning and tuesday his playing wasn't much better. it got to the point of almost writing off this tour as one time too many until 'paint it black' smoked. smoking rambler, too. if i was going to more shows i'd just put these shows in the 'milwaukee' column and just wait until another K.C. but some people only see One show and keith needs to put in the work like mick does and respect the fans. they did have darryl cranked extra loud to make up for keith and that was good. it didn't hide the mistakes but the bass complimented the notes. keith finally 'snapped' out of it during 'rambler'. luckily everyone else will get better shows.
I'm watching something with my own eyes and ears that differs greatly to what you experienced. Admittedly i'm going by youtube footage but Keith comes across as more rehearsed than on other tours recently. His guitar is very loud, where does the bass make up for it ? I thought Keith sang and played really well on his solo set too, the only thing i would say is Keith hasn't come in match fit physically but i bet he's moving well by show 7, i mean the man is 76 this year, he's moving better than Clapton etc. We can't all be Mick Jagger i'm afraid, that is a dedication to fitness that has been a sacrifice that someone like Keith would not be prepared to do, i think we all know that and we all know that Keith has led a life of excess, enjoy what he does have to offer because very soon now we won't be able to see the Stones and the opportunity for you to criticize them will be gone forever.
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sundevil
shows #97 & #98 for me. due to the schedule changes it's probably the last time i see the stones. mick was fantastic but i was really disappointed in keith and his lack of preparation. with mick having such a major procedure i was expecting keith to pick up were he left off in warsaw. it seems he hasn't touched a guitar since last summer. 'monkey man' was a major mistake as the song vote. the head bump was a major event for him, too, and he needs to stop "winging it" like he's twenty-five. friday night it looked like he had food poisoning and tuesday his playing wasn't much better. it got to the point of almost writing off this tour as one time too many until 'paint it black' smoked. smoking rambler, too. if i was going to more shows i'd just put these shows in the 'milwaukee' column and just wait until another K.C. but some people only see One show and keith needs to put in the work like mick does and respect the fans. they did have darryl cranked extra loud to make up for keith and that was good. it didn't hide the mistakes but the bass complimented the notes. keith finally 'snapped' out of it during 'rambler'. luckily everyone else will get better shows.
I'm watching something with my own eyes and ears that differs greatly to what you experienced. Admittedly i'm going by youtube footage but Keith comes across as more rehearsed than on other tours recently. His guitar is very loud, where does the bass make up for it ? I thought Keith sang and played really well on his solo set too, the only thing i would say is Keith hasn't come in match fit physically but i bet he's moving well by show 7, i mean the man is 76 this year, he's moving better than Clapton etc. We can't all be Mick Jagger i'm afraid, that is a dedication to fitness that has been a sacrifice that someone like Keith would not be prepared to do, i think we all know that and we all know that Keith has led a life of excess, enjoy what he does have to offer because very soon now we won't be able to see the Stones and the opportunity for you to criticize them will be gone forever.
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z
In '76 they kept playing IORR in the wrong key for the entire European tour and nobody noticed.
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Koen
They’re both in standard tuning.
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z
In '76 they kept playing IORR in the wrong key for the entire European tour and nobody noticed.
Strange thing is it sounded soo much better in 76'
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In '76 they kept playing IORR in the wrong key for the entire European tour and nobody noticed.
Strange thing is it sounded soo much better in 76'
No way, man! It's sounded better in '75, when they played it in B. But in '76 Keith took off the capo and played it in G. Too low for Mick.
Compare LA or Totonto to Paris and see, it works so much better in B.