I've got what I believe is half a show from Ft. Worth TX and Saturday Night Live...

Is there anything else out there that was at least semi-professionally filmed from this tour that is available.

If the Stones had something in the can, they should release a DVD of it...now that is something that would go triple platinum.

Who knows what?

PECMAN

the SNL rehearsals are also in circulation; and some interviews;
i don't know of anything else, other than what you've mentioned.

>> they should release a DVD of it <<
so a bunch of people can shriek that they're ripping off the fans again? :E


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

The same site you named in the "81 Tour Experts" thread also notes whether footage is known to exist. Haven't looked there myself, but wasn't there a pay-per-view show, or did that begin in '81?

yes there are the rehearsals, then there is footage from Chicago, Tucson, Oakland. Also somehwre in Florida. It's too bad that so far I don't recall hearing about one of the really good shows. Eg Lexington, Memphis, New Jersey.

the first pay-per-view was in 81, CC.
in fact Hampton was apparently the first-ever pay-per-view of a concert -
hail hail Rolling Stones, huh! :E

and thanks, Chelsea Drugstore, for reminding me that i own a few of those other 78 clips -
the audio/video quality is about zero, at least in the versions i have, but yeah: they do technically exist.


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Yes, the quality is really lousy. Not so much for audio, but for video. The Chicago clips are from far away, outside a handheld camera. You see these dots inside the huge tongue stage moving around like one of those prehistoric video games. Rolling Pacmen LOL

New Orleans, two cameras, complete show.

SNL took place 3 monthsafter the tour ended so it's not really tour footage.

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> New Orleans, two cameras, complete show.
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> SNL took place 3 monthsafter the tour ended so
> it's not really tour footage.



I don't have the complete show....but it was up on dime not too long ago

along with a hilarious interview with Mick trying very hard to be Johnny Rotten


the shoot 'em dead, brainbell jangler!

They looked like sh-t on that tour and often played that way too. I think they long ago swept '78 under the rug. It was thrown together quickly too, so maybe they didn't have time to line up the usual propaganda creators.

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> They looked like sh-t on that tour and often
> played that way too. I think they long ago swept
> '78 under the rug. It was thrown together quickly
> too, so maybe they didn't have time to line up the
> usual propaganda creators.


thems fightin' words!

"R Wrote:
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> They looked like sh-t on that tour and often
> played that way too. I think they long ago swept
> '78 under the rug. It was thrown together quickly
> too, so maybe they didn't have time to line up the
> usual propaganda creators.


thems fightin' words!"

No it's true. The ravages of smack, cocaine and poor sartorial choices rendered it the best and worst of tours.

I saw the worst of the worst: Cleveland.

R Wrote:
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> "R Wrote:
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> > They looked like sh-t on that tour and often
>
> > played that way too. I think they long ago
> swept
> > '78 under the rug. It was thrown together
> quickly
> > too, so maybe they didn't have time to line
> up the
> > usual propaganda creators.
>
>
> thems fightin' words!"
>
> No it's true. The ravages of smack, cocaine and
> poor sartorial choices rendered it the best and
> worst of tours.
>
> I saw the worst of the worst: Cleveland.


i'd like to hear the cleveland show....i'm a fan of some shitty, sloppy, drugged-out rocknroll i.e. Johnny thunders, ny dolls etc. ...i bet i'd love cleveland '78...what does "look like shit" mean?

R Wrote:
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> "R Wrote:
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> > They looked like sh-t on that tour and often
>
> > played that way too. I think they long ago
> swept
> > '78 under the rug. It was thrown together
> quickly
> > too, so maybe they didn't have time to line
> up the
> > usual propaganda creators.
>
>
> thems fightin' words!"
>
> No it's true. The ravages of smack, cocaine and
> poor sartorial choices rendered it the best and
> worst of tours.
>
> I saw the worst of the worst: Cleveland.

I was at that show!

They weren't bad...just a bit rushed...they were on and off the stage in alittle over an hour.


The tounge stage was cool though...

I may be a bit biased since it was my first Stones show.




the shoot 'em dead, brainbell jangler!

rattler2004 Wrote:
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> I was at that show!
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> They weren't bad...just a bit rushed...they were
> on and off the stage in alittle over an hour.

The recording I have is 1 hr, 35 mins.

Did they play more than 1 show in Cleveland?

nope. Only Anaheim got 2 shows

95 minutes ties in with my recording as well. A couple of shows were around 75 minutes, and a few towards the end are about 100 minutes. About 80-85 minutes was about the norm

cc Wrote:
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> > I was at that show!
> >
> > They weren't bad...just a bit rushed...they
> were
> > on and off the stage in alittle over an
> hour.
>
> The recording I have is 1 hr, 35 mins.
>
> Did they play more than 1 show in Cleveland?


That sounds about right


the shoot 'em dead, brainbell jangler!

the shows were great,just like know,somethings never change.difference then it was all about the new album(some girls)back then,i believe at passaic,they did 18 songs,8 of which were from some girls.i really wish they had that same attitude with a bigger bang(which is great)everything they have done off bang this tour has been great.rj,onnya,bomh,and rfd in phillie.the shows have been great but i would love to see,6 new songs,1 keith song,3 lost gems(ie,mothers little helper,dance little sister,she was hot,jiggsaw puzzle,time waits for no one etc)and 10 standards.that would be killer.

john scialfa

Hey The GR,
What is "the dime" is that a bit torrent site? do you have thr URL if so? Also do you know the name of the 78 new orleans show?

Thanks

What a great tour. Listen especially to Charlie´s drumming (the HI HAT!!!).

I understand the fighting words reference. The video of the Superdome show in 78 is lousy quality but you can get the feel of the intensity of the crowd down front......it was wild and rowdy. Van Halen, Doobie Brothers, a four hour intermission and finally the Stones........as good as it gets. Fighting Words indeed!!!!

The only other piece of footage that I can think of that hasn't been mentioned yet is from Atlanta. Great show..IMO. Visual quality: B+/A- Sound: A- Forgive me for not elaborating on anything specific. I have it on VHS and haven't watched it in years. Might have to break out the old VCR and give it a whirl.

"I'm the bleeding volcano"

R, I defintely have to agree with you on Cleveland. And Rattler may I suggest, in a nice way, that you were on drugs. Most of us were! In fact drugs may well have been all that saved the day for me. Maybe you were overwhelmed by the event. And whoever posted that you enjoyed sloppy ass RNR or whatever, this was way beyond sloppy. For years I tried to convince myself my memory was bad, but afterwards I bought the boot; my memory is fine. The Cleveland show has to be one of the worst performances by anyone foisted upon any paying audience.

We all hail the Handsome Girls recordings as awesome examples of a lean raw Stones sound. I do like tehse discs. I have theorized with a few freinds that they are packaged as four shows because they may well be the best shows of the tour, and along with Passiac New Jersey, the only listenable shows. Even though the Some Girls was acclaimed as the creative return of the Group, in a situation opposite of today, much of the press ravaged this tour and one would have doubted any long term survival of the group as a performing unit. I have often thought that this is also why the '81 tour had such universal hurrahs; the press really expected nothing after the 78 tour. Doesn't it strike anyone here that this tour has nothing professional at all sanctioned by the Stones out on the market?

And of course the people on the boards today would bitch and bitch and bitch, because with only extremely rare incidence did the set list vary in even the order of the songs on that tour. I think the played Hound Dog once in Memphis, but I cannot really recall anything else that showed up as a rarity the whole tour. Even some of the war horses were done rarely and badly...listen to a version of SFM from that tour.

The rest of the tour might have been terrible, but New Orleans rocked!

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> The rest of the tour might have been terrible, but
> New Orleans rocked!


hey Shawn20...over the years ive heard about 10-15 boots from the '78 tour...mostly audience recordings...but they all sounded fine...p.s..i'll take a so-called "lousy" '78 show over anything they did from '89 on upwards...best wishes



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I was lucky enough to attend not only the show in Jersey City, NJ (Garden State '78) but also the JFK stadium show in Philly on the Some Girls tour. Either of those two shows compared to any Steel Wheels show is quite inferior. The Stones performed like true musicians in '89, with a polished show, and AMAZING stage. I got a great kick out of seeing Keith marvel in how great his band was, cocking his head back in the middle of Mixed Emotions and looking to the heavens.

I'll personally take Atlantic City '89 over any '78 show. And that's not because I lucked out and paid only $22.00 for 3rd row center!!! It is a matter of opinion. We can all cite club dates, or recent DC dates, where the band simply excelled...

i saw the stones in '78 and '94...no comparison...'78 blew '94 out of the water....i'm glad '78 wasn't polished...it was raw & energetic...if i want polished i'll listen to the cd...polishing a great rock band is detrimental...it removes spontanaity & grit (two key elements to the stones "magic"....i could care less about the "cosmetics" i.e. fancy stage, etc....distracting stuff (disneyland atmosphere)



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There was no fancy stage in Atlantic City. Raw rock with Alx Rose dueting on Salt of the Earth, John Lee Hooker trying to do his thing, great set list, and a band that was definitely born again. Seeing Keith sit down on the end of the stage performing the intro to YCAGWYW, right in front of us, 2000 Light Years, Ruby Tuesday, the list goes on. Who cares about the stage, we're all there for the music! Unfortunately, we can admit that the band kicked ass in '89 - not '94!

rock'nroller Wrote:
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> There was no fancy stage in Atlantic City. Raw
> rock with Alx Rose dueting on Salt of the Earth,
> John Lee Hooker trying to do his thing, great set
> list, and a band that was definitely born again.
> Seeing Keith sit down on the end of the stage
> performing the intro to YCAGWYW, right in front of
> us, 2000 Light Years, Ruby Tuesday, the list goes
> on. Who cares about the stage, we're all there
> for the music! Unfortunately, we can admit that
> the band kicked ass in '89 - not '94!


Axl rose and his shrill vocals ruined salt of the earth....steel wheels is nuttin to write home about...polishing ruins good raw rock...ya yas=great raw r & r....you care about the stage "a polished show & AMAZING STAGE"...Flashpoint vs.Handsome Girls (the music doesnt lie).....no comparison from '78 to '89..."89 was the beggining of the stones "nostalgia" era i.e. touring behind a weak album ...worlds apart....'78 by a country mile



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I like the '78 "Street Fighting Man"! It sounds like a coke overdose. It's very wired and edgy. Interesting to hear it with the same sort of drum beat as the Some Girls stuff.

There is a polish to the '89 stuff... but the sounds are so weak! Deep in the 80s, despite the late date. Interesting set list, but not very interesting sound. Hello digital keyboards!

cc