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Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: January 18, 2019 18:17

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are these sessions to be found on a bootleg, which one??
Thanks.
jeroen

None alas... The always well-informed Nico Zentgraf mentions them, though. The Keef/Covay tracks from 85 are among my fav DW outtakes.

Okay Dear DCBA,
and on which album can those be found???
Jeroen

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: fanch ()
Date: January 18, 2019 19:21

Just get my pre-order at the FNAC in France

129.99 euros

Well quite expensive but perfect to wait the Boston show and my 4 days in USA for that !

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: January 18, 2019 20:08

Let's hope for a decent mastering. I have my doubt ...

Someone knows if Talk is Cheap was remastered at some point before?

This is the CD I have:

foobar2000 1.4.1 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2019-01-17 12:46:46

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Analyzed: Keith Richards feat. M. Taylor / Talk Is Cheap (1)
Keith Richards / Talk Is Cheap (2-11)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR14 0.00 dB -16.36 dB 3:13 04-I Could Have Stood You Up
DR15 -0.38 dB -16.54 dB 3:17 01-Big Enough
DR12 -1.65 dB -15.58 dB 3:15 02-Take It So Hard
DR14 -1.06 dB -17.49 dB 4:10 03-Struggle
DR15 -1.62 dB -19.00 dB 4:53 05-Make No Mistake
DR14 -1.33 dB -17.50 dB 4:48 06-You Don't Move Me
DR13 -0.93 dB -16.55 dB 3:32 07-How I Wish
DR14 -1.45 dB -17.45 dB 4:39 08-Rockawhile
DR14 0.00 dB -16.51 dB 4:02 09-Whip It Up
DR14 -1.08 dB -18.38 dB 5:50 10-Locked Away
DR15 -0.13 dB -17.19 dB 5:22 11-It Means A Lot
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Number of tracks: 11
Official DR value: DR14

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 914 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: January 18, 2019 20:31

I suspect the remastering will be just fine and we'll all regret that the Stones didn't use the same approach instead of brickwalling (rather ironic considering Don Was's story about how BLUE AND LONESOME came about).

As for the Sessions bonus disc, I imagine we'll all say it's too short and why couldn't we have had the full hour (or even the full six hours). However, the powers that be are fans like us and do the best they can within the paramters they're given.

It's a great album. This looks like a nice reissue. I expect to enjoy it just like I did 30 years and 3 months ago.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: chatoyancy ()
Date: January 18, 2019 22:22

Thanks for defending me Rocky. I think that's the first political type comment I've ever made here and I'm amused at the responses. The Stones are not fond of Trump.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: chatoyancy ()
Date: January 18, 2019 22:25

My favorite track is "Make No Mistake".

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 18, 2019 22:38

If ya ever want ta test ya stereo
wack on You Don't Move Me …. push the
volume up a bit …. the lead in ….like
swaying inta a darkened alley with Keith …

ROCKMAN

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: January 19, 2019 00:22

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Someone knows if Talk is Cheap was remastered at some point before?

Depends if you count the "Ultradisc II limited edition 24-karat gold-plated" version issued in '92. Anyone ever listened to that one? To me those "Ultradiscs" always seemed more hype than substance.

[www.discogs.com]

Drew

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: January 19, 2019 00:48

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chatoyancy
My favorite track is "Make No Mistake".

If this is sung on the USA 2019 tour,
make no mistake I will pass out!eye popping smiley

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 19, 2019 01:00

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chatoyancy
My favorite track is "Make No Mistake".

If this is sung on the USA 2019 tour,
make no mistake I will pass out!eye popping smiley

Keith isn't doing a solo tour this year.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: January 19, 2019 01:00

‘Make No Mistake’ Who Keith Richards is the end of this with Sarah Dash wowee
[m.youtube.com]

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 19, 2019 01:20

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drewmaster
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glimmertwin1
Someone knows if Talk is Cheap was remastered at some point before?

Depends if you count the "Ultradisc II limited edition 24-karat gold-plated" version issued in '92. Anyone ever listened to that one? To me those "Ultradiscs" always seemed more hype than substance.

[www.discogs.com]

Drew

but you can always melt down the disc and get access to the gold plating

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 19, 2019 01:20

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GasLightStreet
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35love
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chatoyancy
My favorite track is "Make No Mistake".

If this is sung on the USA 2019 tour,
make no mistake I will pass out!eye popping smiley

Keith isn't doing a solo tour this year.

I doubt if anyone would pass out if Keith played it during a solo tour.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: black n blue ()
Date: January 19, 2019 02:58

Classic riffs on that album

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: January 19, 2019 03:27

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treaclefingers
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GasLightStreet
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35love
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chatoyancy
My favorite track is "Make No Mistake".

If this is sung on the USA 2019 tour,
make no mistake I will pass out!eye popping smiley

Keith isn't doing a solo tour this year.

I doubt if anyone would pass out if Keith played it during a solo tour.

Well he still makes me woozy standing close. Watching this video got me excited for my next ‘No Filter’ show smoking smiley

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: January 19, 2019 03:33

You Don't Move Me....


...has always been my favorite Keith solo track.

--------------------------------
"Rip this joint, gonna save your soul..."

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: January 19, 2019 04:12

We pretty much know what disc 2 tracks 1,2 and 4 will be. Big Town Playboy being another cool cover. What’s the guess on the others?

Disc: 2
1. Blues Jam
2. My Babe
3. Slim. (Country)
4. Big Town Playboy
5. Mark On Me. (Ballad)
6. Brute Force. (Rocker)

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: January 19, 2019 06:40

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You Don't Move Me....


...has always been my favorite Keith solo track.

It is so brutal. Bru.tahl darling. (heartbreak emoji here)

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: January 19, 2019 07:49

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Maindefender
We pretty much know what disc 2 tracks 1,2 and 4 will be. Big Town Playboy being another cool cover. What’s the guess on the others?

Disc: 2
1. Blues Jam
2. My Babe
3. Slim. (Country)
4. Big Town Playboy
5. Mark On Me. (Ballad)
6. Brute Force. (Rocker)

Track 5, formerly known as "She Put the Mark On Me" on various bootlegs is not a ballad. It's closer to "It Means A Lot" or "Substantial Damage" in that it's a funky rock jam.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: January 19, 2019 09:30

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Rocky Dijon
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Maindefender
We pretty much know what disc 2 tracks 1,2 and 4 will be. Big Town Playboy being another cool cover. What’s the guess on the others?

Disc: 2
1. Blues Jam
2. My Babe
3. Slim. (Country)
4. Big Town Playboy
5. Mark On Me. (Ballad)
6. Brute Force. (Rocker)

Track 5, formerly known as "She Put the Mark On Me" on various bootlegs is not a ballad. It's closer to "It Means A Lot" or "Substantial Damage" in that it's a funky rock jam.

Hi Rocky! What about "Slim" and "Brute Force"?
"Breakin" and "(She knew) What she wanted" were on various bootlegs just as "Mark on me"...so they could have add them.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: January 19, 2019 13:21

Keith interviewed on the Shaun Keaveny show on BBC Radio 6 music.
Skip to approx 1hr. 42m.

[www.bbc.co.uk]


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"



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Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: January 19, 2019 14:06

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Maindefender
We pretty much know what disc 2 tracks 1,2 and 4 will be. Big Town Playboy being another cool cover. What’s the guess on the others?

Disc: 2
1. Blues Jam
2. My Babe
3. Slim. (Country)
4. Big Town Playboy
5. Mark On Me. (Ballad)
6. Brute Force. (Rocker)

Track 5, formerly known as "She Put the Mark On Me" on various bootlegs is not a ballad. It's closer to "It Means A Lot" or "Substantial Damage" in that it's a funky rock jam.

Nice, maybe Bootsy is on that piece. So assuming tracks 1 and 5 are extended jams we should easily be over 30 minutes.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Date: January 19, 2019 14:08

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Maindefender
We pretty much know what disc 2 tracks 1,2 and 4 will be. Big Town Playboy being another cool cover. What’s the guess on the others?

Disc: 2
1. Blues Jam
2. My Babe
3. Slim. (Country)
4. Big Town Playboy
5. Mark On Me. (Ballad)
6. Brute Force. (Rocker)

She Put A Mark On Me is not a ballad. I posted it earlier in this thread..

Here's the whole jam: [youtu.be]



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Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: Hillside Blues ()
Date: January 19, 2019 16:14

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KRiffhard
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Rocky Dijon
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Maindefender
We pretty much know what disc 2 tracks 1,2 and 4 will be. Big Town Playboy being another cool cover. What’s the guess on the others?

Disc: 2
1. Blues Jam
2. My Babe
3. Slim. (Country)
4. Big Town Playboy
5. Mark On Me. (Ballad)
6. Brute Force. (Rocker)

Track 5, formerly known as "She Put the Mark On Me" on various bootlegs is not a ballad. It's closer to "It Means A Lot" or "Substantial Damage" in that it's a funky rock jam.

Hi Rocky! What about "Slim" and "Brute Force"?
"Breakin" and "(She knew) What she wanted" were on various bootlegs just as "Mark on me"...so they could have add them.

I love Breakin' but Keith's vocal is out of tune at times. Can't see how they could have worked with that.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: January 19, 2019 16:41

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Hillside Blues
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KRiffhard
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Rocky Dijon
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Maindefender
We pretty much know what disc 2 tracks 1,2 and 4 will be. Big Town Playboy being another cool cover. What’s the guess on the others?

Disc: 2
1. Blues Jam
2. My Babe
3. Slim. (Country)
4. Big Town Playboy
5. Mark On Me. (Ballad)
6. Brute Force. (Rocker)

Track 5, formerly known as "She Put the Mark On Me" on various bootlegs is not a ballad. It's closer to "It Means A Lot" or "Substantial Damage" in that it's a funky rock jam.

Hi Rocky! What about "Slim" and "Brute Force"?
"Breakin" and "(She knew) What she wanted" were on various bootlegs just as "Mark on me"...so they could have add them.

I love Breakin' but Keith's vocal is out of tune at times. Can't see how they could have worked with that.

Maybe with new vocals...as they did with Exile and Some Girls bonus material!!



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Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: GivenToFly15 ()
Date: January 19, 2019 16:48

God no! Please have mercy! No new vocals on an old recording, what a crappy idea.

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: January 19, 2019 18:22

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KRiffhard
Hi Rocky! What about "Slim" and "Brute Force"?
"Breakin" and "(She knew) What she wanted" were on various bootlegs just as "Mark on me"...so they could have add them.

Haven't a clue about "Slim" and "Brute Force."

I don't think "Slim" is country. I don't think Keith attempted any country numbers with The Winos or the funk players for that album. Likely the top line is something like "the chances were slim."



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Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 19, 2019 18:55

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GasLightStreet
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35love
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chatoyancy
My favorite track is "Make No Mistake".

If this is sung on the USA 2019 tour,
make no mistake I will pass out!eye popping smiley

Keith isn't doing a solo tour this year.

I doubt if anyone would pass out if Keith played it during a solo tour.

Did anyone pass out in 1988?

Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Posted by: stein ()
Date: January 19, 2019 19:01

Ronnie comment snooker live at Eurosport say he is recording in LA next week



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Re: Keith Richards - Talk Is Cheap 30th Anniversary Edition
Date: January 19, 2019 19:02

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