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What do you guys think of the acoustic tracks he did around 68 and 69?
Prodigal Son
You Gotta Move
Factory Girl
Downtown Suzie
You Got the Silver
Salt of the Earth
If You Let Me

Downtown Suzie is the only one in open G, but it was played by Ry Cooder (where the in-between licks later to be heard on HTW with Keith were featured)..

I don't remember what's open E or open D on the remaining songs right here and now, but I believe PS and YGM were open D and YGTS and SOTE open E.

If memory serves, there weren't any open G-tracks from Keith until HTW. We were debating whether he had removed the dark E-string on the Hyde Park-gig or not. The beast was still fresh

Well yes obviously that most of them are not open G, but I saw that much of the thread had morphed into open tuning period.
Also - there are going to be instances where one guitar may have been standard, and another open. (Wild Horses maybe) (If you let me, Sweet Black Angel)

Pretty sure Sweet Black Angel are standard (both guitars). Wild Horses was mentioned earlier.

Im wondering about "Feel on Baby", and "Pretty BeAT uP".

One can almost assume that all songs that have Jagger playing guitar, or as main writer up to '80 have an open tuned guitar.

The Pathe Marconi outtake boots are full of open G songs.

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Im wondering about "Feel on Baby", and "Pretty BeAT uP".

One can almost assume that all songs that have Jagger playing guitar, or as main writer up to '80 have an open tuned guitar.

The Pathe Marconi outtake boots are full of open G songs.

No, there are many examples of the opposite: Winter, Fingerprint File, Most of Some Girls and Emotional Rescue etc.

I made this list for the hell of it today. Please correct any mistakes I made and feel free to tell me if i'm missing any

Studio tracks by album

Sticky Fingers (1971)
-Brown Sugar (Keith)
-Sway (Mick Jagger)
-Wild Horses (Keith)
-Can’t You Hear Me Knocking (Keith)
-Moonlight Mile (Mick Jagger)

Exile On Mainstreet (1972)
-Rip This Joint (Keith)
-Casino Boogie (Keith)
-Tumbling Dice (Keith)
-Happy (Keith)
-Turd On The Run (Keith)
-All Down The Line (Keith)
-Stop Breaking Down (Mick Jagger)

Goats Head Soup (1973)
-Silver Train (Keith)

It’s Only Rock ‘N’ Roll (1974)
-If You Can’t Rock Me (Keith)
-Luxury (Keith)
-Dance Little Sister (Keith)

Black and Blue (1976)
-Hand Of Fate (Keith)
-Hey Negrita (Keith)
-Crazy Mama (Keith)

Some Girls (1978)
-Some Girls (Mick Jagger)
-Before They Make Me Run (Keith)

Emotional Rescue (1980)
-She’s So Cold (Mick Jagger and Ronnie Wood)

Tattoo You (1981)
-Start Me Up (Keith)

Undercover (1983)
-Undercover Of The Night (Mick Jagger)
-Wanna Hold You (Keith)
-All The Way Down (Keith)
-It Must Be Hell (Keith)

Dirty Work (1986)
-One Hit To The Body (Keith)
-Fight (Keith)
-Hold Back (Keith)

Steel Wheels (1989)
-Sad Sad Sad (Mick Jagger and Keith)
-Mixed Emotions (Mick Jagger and Keith)
-Hold On To Your Hat (Keith)
-Rock and A Hard Place (Mick Jagger)

Voodoo Lounge (1994)
-You Got Me Rocking (Keith)
-I Go Wild (Keith)

Bridges To Babylon (1997)
-Low Down (Keith)
-Too Tight (Keith)

Bigger Bang (2005)
-Rough Justice (Ronnie Wood)
-It Wont Take Long (Keith)
-Back Of My Hand (Mick Jagger)
-She Saw Me Coming (Keith)

Blue and Lonesome (2016)
-Hate To See You Go (Keith)

Singles and Other songs

-Honky Tonk Woman (Keith)
-Under The Radar (Keith)
-Doom And Gloom (Mick Jagger and Keith)
-One More Shot (Keith)

Songs Played Live in Open-G

-Street Fighting Man, 1969-Present day (Keith)
-Jumping Jack Flash, 1969-Present day (Keith)
-I’m Yours and I’m Hers, 1969 (Keith)
-Roll Over Beethoven, 1970 (Keith)
-You Can’t Always Get What You Want, 1972–Present day (Keith)
-It’s Only Rock ‘n’ Roll, 1975–1976 (Keith)
-Get Off My Cloud, 1975-1976 (Keith)
-Around and Around, 1976-1977 (Keith)
-Little Red Rooster, 1976-Present Day (Keith and Ronnie Wood)
-I Wanna Be Your Man, 2012 (Keith)
-Six Days On The Road, 2013 (Keith)

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"She’s so cold STANDARD"

Ronnie is in standard
Keith is in open G

Keith is standard. Ronnie is playing slide in open G, and there's also another guitar that's most likely Mick thats in open G.

also on Little Red Rooster, Ronnie is 100% open G. Just watch him at the Knebworth or Oakland 2013 versions and try what he does in open E and you'll see what I mean. It's most certainly open G.

Ronnie is playing a pedal steel. The other clean-sounding rhythm guitar that comes in a couple of times (probably Keith) is also in standard tuning.

You may actually be right about Ronnie playing a pedal steel. I didn't catch that, But i'm referring to the slide you hear in the intro of the song. And i'm certain the other clean guitar is open g. It really sounds like it is to my ears.



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It's Mick on Silver Train and Crazy Mama.

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"She’s so cold STANDARD"

Ronnie is in standard
Keith is in open G

Keith is standard. Ronnie is playing slide in open G, and there's also another guitar that's most likely Mick thats in open G.

also on Little Red Rooster, Ronnie is 100% open G. Just watch him at the Knebworth or Oakland 2013 versions and try what he does in open E and you'll see what I mean. It's most certainly open G.

Ronnie is playing a pedal steel. The other clean-sounding rhythm guitar that comes in a couple of times (probably Keith) is also in standard tuning.

You may actually be right about Ronnie playing a pedal steel. I didn't catch that, But i'm referring to the slide you hear in the intro of the song. And i'm certain the other clean guitar is open g. It really sounds like it is to my ears.

The I-IVs are done with four strings in play, not five (no A-string). That tells me it's in standard.

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"She’s so cold STANDARD"

Ronnie is in standard
Keith is in open G

Keith is standard. Ronnie is playing slide in open G, and there's also another guitar that's most likely Mick thats in open G.

also on Little Red Rooster, Ronnie is 100% open G. Just watch him at the Knebworth or Oakland 2013 versions and try what he does in open E and you'll see what I mean. It's most certainly open G.

Ronnie is playing a pedal steel. The other clean-sounding rhythm guitar that comes in a couple of times (probably Keith) is also in standard tuning.

You may actually be right about Ronnie playing a pedal steel. I didn't catch that, But i'm referring to the slide you hear in the intro of the song. And i'm certain the other clean guitar is open g. It really sounds like it is to my ears.

The I-IVs are done with four strings in play, not five (no A-string). That tells me it's in standard.

Do you really HEAR this ?

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I think Love Is Strong is also played in open G.

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It's Mick on Silver Train and Crazy Mama.

As well as Keith since they both have 3 guitars in them. I think Mick is in standard with his rhythm on those songs though.

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Too night, no!
Turd on the run, yes!

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It's Mick on Silver Train and Crazy Mama.

As well as Keith since they both have 3 guitars in them. I think Mick is in standard with his rhythm on those songs though.

What's the third guitar in ST? I hear Mick on open G and Taylor on slide.

On CM it's Mick on open G, Keith on the licks in standard tun8ng and Ronnie on the solos towards the ending.

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It's Mick on Silver Train and Crazy Mama.

As well as Keith since they both have 3 guitars in them. I think Mick is in standard with his rhythm on those songs though.

What's the third guitar in ST? I hear Mick on open G and Taylor on slide.

On CM it's Mick on open G, Keith on the licks in standard tun8ng and Ronnie on the solos towards the ending.

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listen to the intro. you have 3 guitars that come in at different times.

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Too night, no!
Turd on the run, yes!

Both are definitely yes.

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Im wondering about "Feel on Baby", and "Pretty BeAT uP".

One can almost assume that all songs that have Jagger playing guitar, or as main writer up to '80 have an open tuned guitar.

The Pathe Marconi outtake boots are full of open G songs.

No, there are many examples of the opposite: Winter, Fingerprint File, Most of Some Girls and Emotional Rescue etc.

Yes, true... "File" might as well be open tuning, for what Jagger plays. Then by 78 he's gotten better at guitar, and starts playing all the rockers in E, D and A. It's almost like early on he learned open tuning first, while Keith was also learning it, but from a player's POV.
We can only guess what songs he contributed to and never played on, or really got credit for.

I don't think he changed to standard for the live versions.





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Nt sure I understand your post. That is standard tuning he is playing in. They take it to Bm on live stage. On IORR it is in Cm. I just meant earlier that although it is in standard Jagger;'s voicings are so rudimentary he may as well be in open.

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Nt sure I understand your post. That is standard tuning he is playing in. They take it to Bm on live stage. On IORR it is in Cm. I just meant earlier that although it is in standard Jagger;'s voicings are so rudimentary he may as well be in open.

You speculated in whether it could be open tuning on FF on IORR

Could have been anything with those three chords, but most likely standard on both occasions.

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Nt sure I understand your post. That is standard tuning he is playing in. They take it to Bm on live stage. On IORR it is in Cm. I just meant earlier that although it is in standard Jagger;'s voicings are so rudimentary he may as well be in open.

You speculated in whether it could be open tuning on FF on IORR

Could have been anything with those three chords, but most likely standard on both occasions.

Exactly, that is what I meant too. It almost doesnt matter on that song. Plus that massive phaser isn't helping.

I play YGTS with E tuning capoed at first fret,so it is F and that sound very good.

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I play YGTS with E tuning capoed at first fret,so it is F and that sound very good.

It is open E-tuning, so it should sound good

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-Hold On To Your Hat (Keith)

Isn't that Jagger playing the rhythm guitar part in OpenG and Keith the lead guitar in standard?

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Isn't that Jagger playing the rhythm guitar part in OpenG and Keith the lead guitar in standard?

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Indeed.

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-Hold On To Your Hat (Keith)

Isn't that Jagger playing the rhythm guitar part in OpenG and Keith the lead guitar in standard?

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Good call. This is what I meant earlier - I think Jagger likes open tuning because it is easy for him to sing over when writing.
Have we mentioned 'Back of my Hand' yet?

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Pretty sure Sweet Black Angel are standard (both guitars). Wild Horses was mentioned earlier.

It's that pitch that threw me off. Because I know it is not in G, I assumed there was a low D droning or something. But it is not. It is not even a standard key; but since the harmonica is in there, they must have messed with the tape speed afterwards. So - in G standard, then vari speed. Is there really a second guitar?

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-Hold On To Your Hat (Keith)

Isn't that Jagger playing the rhythm guitar part in OpenG and Keith the lead guitar in standard?

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Good call. This is what I meant earlier - I think Jagger likes open tuning because it is easy for him to sing over when writing.
Have we mentioned 'Back of my Hand' yet?

Sounds like open E, doesn't it, since he ends on the high root note quite often?

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Ronnie is in standard
Keith is in open G

Keith is standard. Ronnie is playing slide in open G, and there's also another guitar that's most likely Mick thats in open G.

also on Little Red Rooster, Ronnie is 100% open G. Just watch him at the Knebworth or Oakland 2013 versions and try what he does in open E and you'll see what I mean. It's most certainly open G.

This is open E though, all the way.

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I play YGAGWYW not in open g but in standard like Keith does on rock and roll circus, but also I think it sounds better if you capo at 5th fret and play.