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GasLightStreet
I Go Wild of the 1970s!

That's cruel. I Go Wild is crap.

The "frills" @ 3:58 you mention sounding like sax are
triplets played by Ronnie, producing a galloping effect
ala William Tell Overtire Finale.

One of their greatest songs off one of their most underrated
albums, along w/ 'Undercover'

( Let the never ending debate being again! Ha!)

Can't wait for the day that 'Black 'n' Blue' gets the Deluxe treatment!

"Well my heavy throbbers itchin' just to lay a solid rhythm down"

brilliant Ronnie riff...he is amazing...as good as any guitarist they've had in his own right....so many signature moments...

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Delay.

The sleeve doesn't list Ronnie but he's listed everywhere else!

It does.

The ending motif reminds me of a similar flourish in the outro of Love You Too Much on the SG Deluxe re-issue.

I assume that's Ronnie too?

Yes I thought for a long time it was horns; not Saxes because it sounded like a typical trumpet part to me. But like others I had memorized the inside cover credits and knew it was Ronnie and Billy and Keith. There is an interview where Keith actually says that too; that it was all three of them. I think the lowest harmony in the part may be a hammered piano.
Someone mentioned a comparison to Rossini's William Tell parts - that is a great analogy.

One thing I just realized is that the two guitars are not playing the same line. Obviously they are different harmonically, but I think the lower one is also rhythmically different. My theory is that there's a piano at the bottom, and Keith in the middle, and Ronnie at the top in the dominating part. And maybe Keith reverted to his style of phrasing; where it is similar but simplified.



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Double-harmony guitars may create a horn-like effect.

Ronnie did motifs like this one with the Faces, and eventually on stuff like Some Girls (both the fast solo and the themes that are going with the groove), Send It To Me (intro), Highwire (solo, with layers of guitars), and Don't Stop (a more traditional theme-solo).

Especially the descending lines in the Crazy Mama-motif is classic Ronnie. Few guitarists do this, actually. One of the reasons he's so easy to recognise.

Very Ronnie-esque, yes. Actually a very cool figure, and not easy to replicate.

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I enjoyed reading that analysis, Palace.

You've got to love this site for details like those found in this thread!

Love You Too Much comparisons anyone?

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GasLightStreet
I Go Wild of the 1970s!

That's cruel. I Go Wild is crap.

Ah ha ha ha ha ha!

Well, obviously it's a joke. And you're right, I Go Wild is crap - but it does have a resemblance to the sleaziness of Crazy Mama.

I hold "Crazy Mama" in such high regard that I'm willing to forgive Mick confusing shackles and hackles.



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“Crazy Mama” (Munich, March 29th, 1975): “That’s a Rolling Stones track, right? Yeah, it’s gonna be quite good onstage. We wrote that in the studio, too. All of it, my words and everything. It just came to me.”

It sounds like there’s a female backup chorus.

“Oh, no. No girls on the record. Do you know, girls always say to me, ‘Don’t use girls on the record; we really don’t like it.’ I think that’s Billy singing high up there. He’s the stand-in girl there. Keith, Billy and Ron. Yeah, at the end, it does sound like girls.”

It's interesting that Mick is talking about BLACK AND BLUE and somehow - well, he comes off as it, anyway - isn't sure of the song! What he says about the LP is even better:

So, overall, are you happy with this “hearthrug”?

“Well, you know, it’s all right. I dunno. To me, you see, it’s just sort of another album. We’ve never had an album out that people say, ‘That’s the same as the last one.’ I don’t mean that’s necessarily good or bad. They usually say it’s different and then by the time it comes out they get used to it.”

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“Oh, no. No girls on the record" MJ

Whoa! No girls singing on CM? That is a shock.

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I used to pour over that inner sleeve for hours as a teenager in the 90s.

Thanks GLS

Me too...

... in the 70's [ and I still do ]

Never heard any phantom saxophones though.

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peoplewitheyes
I used to pour over that inner sleeve for hours as a teenager in the 90s.

Thanks GLS

Me too...

... in the 70's [ and I still do ]

Never heard any phantom saxophones though.

No saxophones, no girls

...just wishful listening!

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GasLightStreet
Delay.

The sleeve doesn't list Ronnie but he's listed everywhere else!

So off track, but Judge Cavanaugh just released today his calender notes from summer of '82. Took me to the Black and Blue production notes above......Seek for yourself or not.....lol almost same handwriting or what you'd find on Ron Wood's Gimme Some Neck



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