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That's really weird. Aren't there ASCAP fees or something? You can't use full songs on YouTube in your videos without potentially being dinged for copyright violations.Quote
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keefriff99Yes, I get that...but he didn't pay the Stones directly. It's a licensing fee.Quote
RokyfanQuote
keefriff99Because he's a piece of shit.Quote
scottkeef
The thing about it (regardless of which political side you fall) Trump is STILL using YCAGWYW at the conclusion of his "rallys" after the band has repeatedly asked that none of their songs be used.
He may be, but the reason he can use those songs is that he paid for the rights as per normal procedure,. They took his money, thats why they cant do anything
That’s not true, either.
[www.thedailybeast.com]
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keefriff99That's really weird. Aren't there ASCAP fees or something? You can't use full songs on YouTube in your videos without potentially being dinged for copyright violations.Quote
MelBelliQuote
keefriff99Yes, I get that...but he didn't pay the Stones directly. It's a licensing fee.Quote
RokyfanQuote
keefriff99Because he's a piece of shit.Quote
scottkeef
The thing about it (regardless of which political side you fall) Trump is STILL using YCAGWYW at the conclusion of his "rallys" after the band has repeatedly asked that none of their songs be used.
He may be, but the reason he can use those songs is that he paid for the rights as per normal procedure,. They took his money, thats why they cant do anything
That’s not true, either.
[www.thedailybeast.com]
Cool...thanks for the clarification. Any chance you have to link to where you explained it? I'm curious.Quote
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1) there are fees paid to ascap by restaurants, political campaigns, etc to be
allowed to play ANY recordings they want
2) there is no record kept of what is actually played
3) ascap fees are distributed based on a calculated average probability, in
other words, elton john will get a relatively large little piece of ALL
ascap fees versus a less popular artist, say, cat stevens
so yeah, if your bar plays all cat stevens, elton still gets more of
your ascap fees than cat does
(there's a very big proviso here, that we shouldnt get into, because it
is a touchy subject. there is a legal strategy that can be employed to
discourage a perhaps disagreeable fellow from playing your music in
his establishment. this strategy was indeed employed by elton and bruce
to successfully discourage trump. on other sites i have explained why
the stones did not use this strategy, but i cant explain it here, but
it is not because they were pro trump)
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rev20
BIG FOOTNOTE:
while the public performance license for recordings at campaign rallies is
at least somewhat clear, there is something else that Trump did that was
BLATANTLY ILLEGAL. I pointed it out at the time on shidoobee, jumping
up and down with shock...
trump sent out a 1-minute filmed campaign advertisement to 30 MIILION of his
followers on social media that contained no spoken words, just kinda-cool
populist images backed with an also-cool live call-and-response version of YCAGWYW.
very leni riefenstahl-ish
30 million! undoubtedly the largest one-shot release of a stones song in history.
and completely illegal!
nobody in stonesworld seemed to notice. nobody in the media. just me.
it was subsequently scrubbed from the net and for all i know i have the
only copy. you can see it below. please, scholars and collectors, copy
it for posterity. it is an important footnote to the strange and sinister
times we are living thru (remember, people, besides everything else that
is great about IORR, these pages will be an important resource for the cultural
historians of the future)
[vimeo.com]
(if you know where this live version of YCAGWYW comes from, please let us know)
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rev20
(there's a very big proviso here, that we shouldnt get into, because it
is a touchy subject. there is a legal strategy that can be employed to
discourage a perhaps disagreeable fellow from playing your music in
his establishment. this strategy was indeed employed by elton and bruce
to successfully discourage trump. on other sites i have explained why
the stones did not use this strategy, but i cant explain it here, but
it is not because they were pro trump)
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Kurt
He still plays Elton
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rev20
so i think besides bruce, it was adele that was more forceful and succeeded
in getting trump to stop
He stopped Reagan from using Born in the USA. Bruce doesn't @#$%& around.Quote
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rev20
so i think besides bruce, it was adele that was more forceful and succeeded
in getting trump to stop
He still plays Adele.
You are right, though, no Bruce...
Maybe Trump just doesn’t like him!
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buttons67
trumps a clever guy. his big mouth just might have cost the usa from staging the 2026 world cup.
its canada and mexico im sorry for as they would have been co hosts.
bullying people rarely works, he should learn this.
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buttons67
trumps a clever guy. his big mouth just might have cost the usa from staging the 2026 world cup.
its canada and mexico im sorry for as they would have been co hosts.
bullying people rarely works, he should learn this.