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MisterDDDD
Paul ending his concerts in London seems a little like the Stones ending theirs in NYC though...
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If you're friends with Lorne Michaels you can see Paul play in his living room whenever you'd like.
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jlowe
I suspect that rather like Eric Clapton he is in the last lap regarding tours, but I can still see him doing small gigs and charity shows in the US for some time, health permitting.
Main thing (for me) is that, unlike Mick, he hasn't lost his creative muse.His last albums have all been excellent and (surprisingly perhaps) produced very healthy sales.Cannot imagine him not being active in the studio for many years to come.
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I suspect that rather like Eric Clapton he is in the last lap regarding tours, but I can still see him doing small gigs and charity shows in the US for some time, health permitting.
Main thing (for me) is that, unlike Mick, he hasn't lost his creative muse.His last albums have all been excellent and (surprisingly perhaps) produced very healthy sales.Cannot imagine him not being active in the studio for many years to come.
You may be creative, even though you won't (for different reasons) release your material.
There are no indications of Mick losing his creative muse. On the contrary, we know that he has written a lot of songs. We just don't know the quality of those songs, or how he will present them...
It could be as simple as Mick refusing to release albums, which won't be prosperous for him. He might be piling them up for a huuuge release - we just don't know
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I suspect that rather like Eric Clapton he is in the last lap regarding tours, but I can still see him doing small gigs and charity shows in the US for some time, health permitting.
Main thing (for me) is that, unlike Mick, he hasn't lost his creative muse.His last albums have all been excellent and (surprisingly perhaps) produced very healthy sales.Cannot imagine him not being active in the studio for many years to come.
You may be creative, even though you won't (for different reasons) release your material.
There are no indications of Mick losing his creative muse. On the contrary, we know that he has written a lot of songs. We just don't know the quality of those songs, or how he will present them...
It could be as simple as Mick refusing to release albums, which won't be prosperous for him. He might be piling them up for a huuuge release - we just don't know
Paul is more in it for the craft than the Stones and his ego/stature could weather poor sales. The Stones are too trapped by being "the Stones" and are overly concerned (imo) with putting out something that doesn't sell or goes unnoticed. They should just let it rip, man.
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I suspect that rather like Eric Clapton he is in the last lap regarding tours, but I can still see him doing small gigs and charity shows in the US for some time, health permitting.
Main thing (for me) is that, unlike Mick, he hasn't lost his creative muse.His last albums have all been excellent and (surprisingly perhaps) produced very healthy sales.Cannot imagine him not being active in the studio for many years to come.
You may be creative, even though you won't (for different reasons) release your material.
There are no indications of Mick losing his creative muse. On the contrary, we know that he has written a lot of songs. We just don't know the quality of those songs, or how he will present them...
It could be as simple as Mick refusing to release albums, which won't be prosperous for him. He might be piling them up for a huuuge release - we just don't know
Paul is more in it for the craft than the Stones and his ego/stature could weather poor sales. The Stones are too trapped by being "the Stones" and are overly concerned (imo) with putting out something that doesn't sell or goes unnoticed. They should just let it rip, man.
And then there was lackluster reception to Getta Grip/England Lost which might have stung Mick's ego. They weren't the worst tunes in the world, but they certainly weren't anything groundbreaking or even memorable. The problem is when you barely release anything, when you finally do it's under total scrutiny by those who have anticipated for so long. And if those two songs are any indication of what he's been writing which I assume they are as they were written and recorded very recently, maybe best he hoards everything and keeps them to himself. But in a positive light, maybe the failure to sell and the overall poor reception will do him (and Stones fans) some good. Nothing like some good old constructive criticism, and when your latest work is almost completely ignored, might be a hint that you're doing somethings wrong.
In contrast, you have Paul Simon, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, et al doing what they do - some of it good, some of it not so good, but at least they're doing it.
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If anybody want to hear a great Paul Simon album listen to So Beautiful Or So What from 2011.
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I suspect that rather like Eric Clapton he is in the last lap regarding tours, but I can still see him doing small gigs and charity shows in the US for some time, health permitting.
Main thing (for me) is that, unlike Mick, he hasn't lost his creative muse.His last albums have all been excellent and (surprisingly perhaps) produced very healthy sales.Cannot imagine him not being active in the studio for many years to come.
You may be creative, even though you won't (for different reasons) release your material.
There are no indications of Mick losing his creative muse. On the contrary, we know that he has written a lot of songs. We just don't know the quality of those songs, or how he will present them...
It could be as simple as Mick refusing to release albums, which won't be prosperous for him. He might be piling them up for a huuuge release - we just don't know
Paul is more in it for the craft than the Stones and his ego/stature could weather poor sales. The Stones are too trapped by being "the Stones" and are overly concerned (imo) with putting out something that doesn't sell or goes unnoticed. They should just let it rip, man.
And then there was lackluster reception to Getta Grip/England Lost which might have stung Mick's ego. They weren't the worst tunes in the world, but they certainly weren't anything groundbreaking or even memorable. The problem is when you barely release anything, when you finally do it's under total scrutiny by those who have anticipated for so long. And if those two songs are any indication of what he's been writing which I assume they are as they were written and recorded very recently, maybe best he hoards everything and keeps them to himself. But in a positive light, maybe the failure to sell and the overall poor reception will do him (and Stones fans) some good. Nothing like some good old constructive criticism, and when your latest work is almost completely ignored, might be a hint that you're doing somethings wrong.
In contrast, you have Paul Simon, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, et al doing what they do - some of it good, some of it not so good, but at least they're doing it.
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I suspect that rather like Eric Clapton he is in the last lap regarding tours, but I can still see him doing small gigs and charity shows in the US for some time, health permitting.
Main thing (for me) is that, unlike Mick, he hasn't lost his creative muse.His last albums have all been excellent and (surprisingly perhaps) produced very healthy sales.Cannot imagine him not being active in the studio for many years to come.
You may be creative, even though you won't (for different reasons) release your material.
There are no indications of Mick losing his creative muse. On the contrary, we know that he has written a lot of songs. We just don't know the quality of those songs, or how he will present them...
It could be as simple as Mick refusing to release albums, which won't be prosperous for him. He might be piling them up for a huuuge release - we just don't know
Paul is more in it for the craft than the Stones and his ego/stature could weather poor sales. The Stones are too trapped by being "the Stones" and are overly concerned (imo) with putting out something that doesn't sell or goes unnoticed. They should just let it rip, man.
And then there was lackluster reception to Getta Grip/England Lost which might have stung Mick's ego. They weren't the worst tunes in the world, but they certainly weren't anything groundbreaking or even memorable. The problem is when you barely release anything, when you finally do it's under total scrutiny by those who have anticipated for so long. And if those two songs are any indication of what he's been writing which I assume they are as they were written and recorded very recently, maybe best he hoards everything and keeps them to himself. But in a positive light, maybe the failure to sell and the overall poor reception will do him (and Stones fans) some good. Nothing like some good old constructive criticism, and when your latest work is almost completely ignored, might be a hint that you're doing somethings wrong.
In contrast, you have Paul Simon, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, et al doing what they do - some of it good, some of it not so good, but at least they're doing it.
Well, in theory fine, but....
I think both Mick and Keith lead such insulated lives that the lack of commercial success or critics praise will go over their heads.
One assumes they largely surround themselves with yes men and have done for a long time. Keith still talks about the group having potential to 'do more' (whatever that means).
Contrast that with Eric Clapton's own personal analysis of his guitar playing: 'nowhere near the same level of his 1960s work'.
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So maybe in Mick's mind, he still might think his latest singles were hugely successful and even Grammy worthy?
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So maybe in Mick's mind, he still might think his latest singles were hugely successful and even Grammy worthy?
So maybe in Mick's mind, he still might think "wtf did I ever do to pi$$ this HB guy off.. I mean to take even an unrelated Paul Simon concert thread and unleash the usual bash Mick rhetoric.. I mean, Come On!"
I think that's more likely.
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I suspect that rather like Eric Clapton he is in the last lap regarding tours, but I can still see him doing small gigs and charity shows in the US for some time, health permitting.
Main thing (for me) is that, unlike Mick, he hasn't lost his creative muse.His last albums have all been excellent and (surprisingly perhaps) produced very healthy sales.Cannot imagine him not being active in the studio for many years to come.
You may be creative, even though you won't (for different reasons) release your material.
There are no indications of Mick losing his creative muse. On the contrary, we know that he has written a lot of songs. We just don't know the quality of those songs, or how he will present them...
It could be as simple as Mick refusing to release albums, which won't be prosperous for him. He might be piling them up for a huuuge release - we just don't know
Paul is more in it for the craft than the Stones and his ego/stature could weather poor sales. The Stones are too trapped by being "the Stones" and are overly concerned (imo) with putting out something that doesn't sell or goes unnoticed. They should just let it rip, man.
And then there was lackluster reception to Getta Grip/England Lost which might have stung Mick's ego. They weren't the worst tunes in the world, but they certainly weren't anything groundbreaking or even memorable. The problem is when you barely release anything, when you finally do it's under total scrutiny by those who have anticipated for so long. And if those two songs are any indication of what he's been writing which I assume they are as they were written and recorded very recently, maybe best he hoards everything and keeps them to himself. But in a positive light, maybe the failure to sell and the overall poor reception will do him (and Stones fans) some good. Nothing like some good old constructive criticism, and when your latest work is almost completely ignored, might be a hint that you're doing somethings wrong.
In contrast, you have Paul Simon, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, et al doing what they do - some of it good, some of it not so good, but at least they're doing it.
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gotdablouse
RIP Vincent N'Guini, great and pretty unique guitar player in the "world of pop".