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Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: RockR ()
Date: September 18, 2005 10:00

Seriously. He did it on "Sympathy for the Devil", "Gimme Shelter", "Stray Cat Blues"....a number of Stones tracks. But since Mick Taylor left the band, has Keith EVER played a decent guitar solo on a Stones track, either in the studio or live ? I haven't heard it ....

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Bärs ()
Date: September 18, 2005 10:36

Sympathy on Live at the Max. Fantastic solo work.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: bartman ()
Date: September 18, 2005 10:45

@#$%& 1976. Check out love you live

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: September 18, 2005 10:53

He is the r-h-y-t-h-m guitarist.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 18, 2005 11:09

Keith really isn't INTO "playin' solos"... he's the ultimate "team" guitarist. Sometimes he's the core rhythm, sometimes he's the high notes over the rhythm...

He's almost always the "edge" to the song... the danger, the extreme sounds, perhaps most importantly, he's the "punctuation" of the stones... the dot on the i, the cross on the t... and it's the punctuation that puts these songs "over the top"...

... there's a great wmv floating around here of a 72-ish gig with Keith & Mick Taylor on a guitar at a live venue... the thread was something like "where was this gig" ? A great example of Keiths contribution to the sound, IMO.

It's interesting that U2's guitarist is named "The Edge"... in every respect, Keith Richards is "The Edge"...

He's not a "soloist" in the sense of Eric Clapton or Stevie Ray Vaughan or Jimi Hendrix, or Jimmy Page or countless other stupendous soloists...

But then again... THEY AREN'T KEITH RICHARDS EITHER !!!!!!

Here's the link that I think illustrates what Keith has been contributing to the Stones sound for going on 40 years... Go to the first message and hit the link for a great wmv:

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2005-09-18 11:38 by CreedenceLives.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 18, 2005 12:00

Keith is rhythm, ba-by, rhythm

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: September 18, 2005 12:01

He should do more Chuck Berry style solo's(and he did! Oh No Not You Again! Thanks for that one, Keith!).

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: billwebster ()
Date: September 18, 2005 13:27

Great songs don't need solos to work out, especially not blues songs - just listen to Bob Dylan's Lonesome Day Blues. It's the same 12 bars all over and that makes it hit hard. Strong songs don't need solos, though instrumental grandeur is very much appreciated, but then a great solo in a boring song doesn't help the song much.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: billwebster ()
Date: September 18, 2005 13:30

To clarify my point: What I meant is if he decides not to play a solo then it's his artistic freedom to do so, and the song benefits from it in the way he intends it to.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: September 18, 2005 13:35

I think Keith does fine for a 62 year old ex-heroine addict who's spent more time on stage then sleeping. I like his solo's.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-09-18 13:35 by Reptile.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Rosto ()
Date: September 18, 2005 13:58

I hope that in ten years time Keith will NOT end up strumming chords after loosing his ability to play single notes in the right tempo.
Let's face it: he lost some speed last years, but he's still able to entertain us at a high level!

Let it rock!

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: September 18, 2005 15:14

CreedenceLives Wrote:
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> Here's the link that I think illustrates what
> Keith has been contributing to the Stones sound
> for going on 40 years... Go to the first message
> and hit the link for a great wmv:

That's a great video to watch, thanks for posting the link. And in my opinion a lot of MT notes are out of place too grinning smiley

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: camper88 ()
Date: September 18, 2005 16:08

For me the question is just a few shades away from "why doesn't Charlie do more drum solos?"
There's no good answer to that, except that that's not what the Stones are about: solos. They are the masters of interplay, counterpoint, and complementarity. They truly are a band, not a collection of individuals (Cream is closer to the latter than the former, to me).
The strongest thing to be said about some of my favorite Stones "solos" is that you can't tell where Taylor begins and Richards ends, or which guitar's Woody and which one's Keef. To hear and see him play some solos, just look at the Chuck Berry inspired tunes on Flicks: IORR, @#$%&, etc. He's great, it still works with the rest of the band. On the other hand, I think Streets of Love could've been much better with a Mick Taylor solo in place of what's there.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Buddha66 ()
Date: September 18, 2005 16:45

Hey RockR...why don't you just @#$%& right off!

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: heyheymymyitb ()
Date: September 18, 2005 18:07

I love the solo on Dangerous Beauty. His tone is phenominal.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: nmaillot ()
Date: September 18, 2005 19:09

That's right, Streets Of Love could have been saved by a real guitar solo
(Something like Harvey Mandel did on Worried about You)
Btw, who plays the notes that stands for the solo ?

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: SpanishTony ()
Date: September 18, 2005 19:34

I was watching U2's Rattle and Hum yesterday and BB King says that he needs someone to do the chords because he is a terrible chord player. I thought it was interesting that someone as highly regarded as BB King cant play rhythm. Pretty much the opposite of Keith.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: RockR ()
Date: September 18, 2005 19:37

Buddha66 Wrote:
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> Hey RockR...why don't you just @#$%& right off!


NOW THERE'S an intelligent response !



Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: country honk ()
Date: September 18, 2005 20:40

Keith's solo on around and around (LYL).... great

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: September 18, 2005 20:42

I don't know what you're talking about. I don't think there's anything wrong with Keith's soloing.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Date: September 19, 2005 10:49

<Seriously. He did it on "Sympathy for the Devil", "Gimme Shelter", "Stray Cat Blues"....a number of Stones tracks. But since Mick Taylor left the band, has Keith EVER played a decent guitar solo on a Stones track, either in the studio or live ? I haven't heard it ....>

Whaat? Listen to:

Let Me Go (Live 81)
Tie You Up (83)
SFTD (Live 75! + 89/90)
Sad Sad Sad (Live 89/90)
Time Is On My Side (Live 81)
Hang Fire (81)
Slave (81)
Star Star (Live 75/76)
You Gotta Move (Live 75/76)
Respectable (78 + Live 78)
Beast Of Burden (78 + Live 78, 81/82)
Where The Boys Go (80)
Down In The Hole (80)
Melody (76)

This must be a joke smiling smiley

BTW, Taylor played the solo on Stray Cat Blues live. The licks on the studio version is Keith, but that's not a solo, is it?





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-09-19 11:12 by DandelionPowderman.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: jss ()
Date: September 19, 2005 12:16

some pretty decent work on hold on to your hat...

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: billwebster ()
Date: September 19, 2005 14:16

Paying the Cost To Be the Boss - BB King & the Rolling Stones

I can hear BB's Lucille, I think I hear Ronnie play the 2nd solo but I'm actually not sure who it is, I hear lots of horns, and Mick plays a harp solo in the end. Somehow the rhythm is just bass, drums and a piano. But where is Keith?

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: RockR ()
Date: September 19, 2005 14:22

DandelionPowderman Wrote:
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> Whaat? Listen to:
>
> Let Me Go (Live 81)
> Tie You Up (83)
> SFTD (Live 75! + 89/90)
> Sad Sad Sad (Live 89/90)
> Time Is On My Side (Live 81)
> Hang Fire (81)
> Slave (81)
> Star Star (Live 75/76)
> You Gotta Move (Live 75/76)
> Respectable (78 + Live 78)
> Beast Of Burden (78 + Live 78, 81/82)
> Where The Boys Go (80)
> Down In The Hole (80)
> Melody (76)
>
> This must be a joke
>
> BTW, Taylor played the solo on Stray Cat Blues
> live. The licks on the studio version is Keith,
> but that's not a solo, is it?
>
>
>
>
>
>

Those are great solos ???!!! OK, if you say so....

By the way, I was referring to the studio version of "Stray Cat Blues", which IS a tremendous solo by Keith in the mid-section break after Jagger yells out "OH, YEAHHHHHHH!!!!".

This is my point....the man has or had it in him to do great solos, but what's happened over the years ? In my opinion, Ronnie has had a detrimental effect on Keith's guitar playing overall.



Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Date: September 19, 2005 14:24

<Those are great solos ???!!! OK, if you say so....>

The Let Me Go-solo from Still Life (1981) is IMO the best solo Keith has ever done. If you like fast playing, Tie You Up includes the fastest runs ever by Keith.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: J-J-Flash ()
Date: September 19, 2005 16:28

Baboon Bro Wrote:
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> He is the r-h-y-t-h-m guitarist.


As a fellow Stones fan and understanding the dynamic of the band I hope you were joking with your post here.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 19, 2005 16:37

@#$%& all the solos in the whole wide world. There is no decent Stones song which really needs a solo. Soloing is something for jerks. Real @#$%& enjoy the rhythm!

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Date: September 19, 2005 16:46

Yeah - All Down The Line would have been terrific without the solo. Same goes for Time Waits For No One and Winter smiling smiley

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Posted by: Apt. #9 ()
Date: September 19, 2005 16:47

I am a guitar player myself. I like to think that I can play Keith riffs very well, but I do not fool myslef by even thinking that I can do it like the man himself.

First of all, Kieth gets lost in the ,usic, and for those of you out there that play and perform, you know exactly what I mean. If you don't feel it, forget about it.

In my opinion, Keith puts more emotion into one slow blues bend on songs like "Angie" and "Beast of Burden" than Eddie Van Halen had put into some albums.

This, however, is coming from a musician, so it may be a bit biased.

Re: Why can't Keith play a decent guitar solo ?
Date: September 19, 2005 16:50

<In my opinion, Keith puts more emotion into one slow blues bend on songs like "Angie" and "Beast of Burden" than Eddie Van Halen had put into some albums.>

Well said. But that also goes for Mr. Wood.


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