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Oh for sure it’s hard to tell when what was done etc. I can’t believe his remaster vocal is new though, it doesn’t sound like any of the other new vocals.
I don't know. I mean, you read something like this...
I got the boxes out. Universal said, We've got a fan helping us who's a walking encyclopedia of the Stones. Can he send you bootlegs from the period? He sent me loads of things, but when I listened to them I kept thinking, Wait a minute, this isn't from Exile, this is much later. I was listening to them with Keith, and Keith's going, Mick Taylor sounds fantastic on this one. And I said, Yeah! Doesn't he? And I looked at the list. And it wasn't Mick Taylor, it was B. B. King, and we only recorded it five years ago.
- Mick Jagger, 2009
... and it makes you wonder. As in, apparently the fan had other ideas or didn't know diddly shit about what was going on.
Mick is still lost. To this day he's lost about what the EXILE time was. Because if you go by what came out on the deluxe album, and read what he said, The first recording was Loving Cup in 1969, and then the last sessions for Exile were done in 1972. So that was my time period. then you know that's not true.
All of that aside, Mick said None of them had vocals... so there you go. And he means, obviously, finished, because the Keith vox tracks are obviously different.
Charlie sums up the whole ball of shit, though: My only criticism of the new ones is that the voice sounds like it was done yesterday. That's inevitable. But Mick likes them. He was rather pleased when he gave them to me. He must've got into this.
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Oh for sure it’s hard to tell when what was done etc. I can’t believe his remaster vocal is new though, it doesn’t sound like any of the other new vocals.
I don't know. I mean, you read something like this...
I got the boxes out. Universal said, We've got a fan helping us who's a walking encyclopedia of the Stones. Can he send you bootlegs from the period? He sent me loads of things, but when I listened to them I kept thinking, Wait a minute, this isn't from Exile, this is much later. I was listening to them with Keith, and Keith's going, Mick Taylor sounds fantastic on this one. And I said, Yeah! Doesn't he? And I looked at the list. And it wasn't Mick Taylor, it was B. B. King, and we only recorded it five years ago.
- Mick Jagger, 2009
... and it makes you wonder. As in, apparently the fan had other ideas or didn't know diddly shit about what was going on.
Mick is still lost. To this day he's lost about what the EXILE time was. Because if you go by what came out on the deluxe album, and read what he said, The first recording was Loving Cup in 1969, and then the last sessions for Exile were done in 1972. So that was my time period. then you know that's not true.
All of that aside, Mick said None of them had vocals... so there you go. And he means, obviously, finished, because the Keith vox tracks are obviously different.
Charlie sums up the whole ball of shit, though: My only criticism of the new ones is that the voice sounds like it was done yesterday. That's inevitable. But Mick likes them. He was rather pleased when he gave them to me. He must've got into this.
Well we know “none of them” is wrong: “Good Time Women” and “Loving Cup”*. He probably meant the songs he tracked vocals to didn’t have any vocals on them. I think “Signifying” was pretty much ready for Exile and they shelved it. I think they wiped the rhythm guitars and re-recorded a lame rhythm part and overdubbed harmonica.
*Also the Japanese-only release of an alternate “All Down The Line”.
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Oh for sure it’s hard to tell when what was done etc. I can’t believe his remaster vocal is new though, it doesn’t sound like any of the other new vocals.
I don't know. I mean, you read something like this...
I got the boxes out. Universal said, We've got a fan helping us who's a walking encyclopedia of the Stones. Can he send you bootlegs from the period? He sent me loads of things, but when I listened to them I kept thinking, Wait a minute, this isn't from Exile, this is much later. I was listening to them with Keith, and Keith's going, Mick Taylor sounds fantastic on this one. And I said, Yeah! Doesn't he? And I looked at the list. And it wasn't Mick Taylor, it was B. B. King, and we only recorded it five years ago.
- Mick Jagger, 2009
... and it makes you wonder. As in, apparently the fan had other ideas or didn't know diddly shit about what was going on.
Mick is still lost. To this day he's lost about what the EXILE time was. Because if you go by what came out on the deluxe album, and read what he said, The first recording was Loving Cup in 1969, and then the last sessions for Exile were done in 1972. So that was my time period. then you know that's not true.
All of that aside, Mick said None of them had vocals... so there you go. And he means, obviously, finished, because the Keith vox tracks are obviously different.
Charlie sums up the whole ball of shit, though: My only criticism of the new ones is that the voice sounds like it was done yesterday. That's inevitable. But Mick likes them. He was rather pleased when he gave them to me. He must've got into this.
Well we know “none of them” is wrong: “Good Time Women” and “Loving Cup”*. He probably meant the songs he tracked vocals to didn’t have any vocals on them. I think “Signifying” was pretty much ready for Exile and they shelved it. I think they wiped the rhythm guitars and re-recorded a lame rhythm part and overdubbed harmonica.
*Also the Japanese-only release of an alternate “All Down The Line”.
Of course, just the truly unreleased tracks.
Lame rhythm part? Ya lost me. On I Ain't Lying/Ain't Gonna Lie or I'm Not Signifying?
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There's an acoustic on the official track!? I just thought it was Taylor. I'll have to have a listen again.
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There's an acoustic on the official track!? I just thought it was Taylor. I'll have to have a listen again.
I’ve heard three versions:
1) The outtake posted here on original post, where it’s a different structure/arrangement. Taylor does not play slide. Possibly one of the Hopkins mixes.
2) The version I posted with three guitars (one is an acoustic). Same structure as the official version, but purportedly one of the Hopkins mixes.
3) The official version which may or may not be the same take as #2, albeit with a different slide part and rhythm guitar part. No acoustic on this version.
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There's an acoustic on the official track!? I just thought it was Taylor. I'll have to have a listen again.
I’ve heard three versions:
1) The outtake posted here on original post, where it’s a different structure/arrangement. Taylor does not play slide. Possibly one of the Hopkins mixes.
2) The version I posted with three guitars (one is an acoustic). Same structure as the official version, but purportedly one of the Hopkins mixes.
3) The official version which may or may not be the same take as #2, albeit with a different slide part and rhythm guitar part. No acoustic on this version.
Got it.
Based on some focused listening of the Nicky Hopkins (sped up) mix and the official version, there is no 'may' or, worse yet, 'may not' - it is the same take. It's just a working mix, obviously, and was before they finished it, as far as they did, which is what is on the official other than the new recordings of the harmonica and the vocal. And based on what's on the Nicky Hopkins mix, the new vocals Jagger did in 2009 sound fantastic and perhaps the best of all the new vocals he did - they sound the closest to how he dragged his singing on the live take 2 and the previous take.
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I’m not going to debate either but he did say: “There's a track called I'm Not Signifying and all I did was play harmonica on it. It's quite an early track. It sounds early. It could fit onto the Beggars' Banquet album.“
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Didn't remember that Jagger quote, it's too bad we never heard from that "super fan" who dug out that stuff for them...I can't make sense of that reference to BBKing ?!