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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: May 21, 2017 04:44

but they're all so sacred to me .....



ROCKMAN

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: May 21, 2017 05:21

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Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Maybe it will be interviews with some of the celebrities that attended the show.

Yes, but I'd love to see the interviews with the fans on the bonus material. We have at least two IORR users that were interviewed for that.

A nice memory for them, but what have they've got to say that is of any interest for the general public? The same could be said about these "celebrities" interviews. Usually lots of words, but no interesting content.

Perhaps they have better stories to tell than the "celebrities" that appear on the "Stones in Exile" doc, for instance. winking smiley

I don't doubt that, but looking at the running time of this bonus footage I fear that the interviews are edited to the usual "Stones are great man...still the best...fantastic show...been a fan since...seen a million shows...bought all their records...Mick/Keith is my favourite...Charlie's so cool...love Ronnie...amazing that they're still out there touring..." small talk that would be a waste of time watching really.



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Ross ()
Date: May 21, 2017 06:50

I'm just frustrated that they didn't do the Sticky Fingers thing a few years ago when they had MT, Bobby Keys, and Bill Wyman all at the same show. That is 3 more essential players that helped shape the original album into the masterpiece that it was. I think anyone claiming that the Fonda version is better without those 3 is delusional. The versions of CYHMK with MT and Bobby Keys from that tour were sensational (imo), and now that can never happen again.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Father Ted ()
Date: May 21, 2017 13:00

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boogaloojef
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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Maybe it will be interviews with some of the celebrities that attended the show.

If their recent releases are anything to go by, the bonus material will be tracks from the same show that have been shamelessly edited out of the main film.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: May 21, 2017 13:06

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boogaloojef
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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Maybe it will be interviews with some of the celebrities that attended the show.

If their recent releases are anything to go by, the bonus material will be tracks from the same show that have been shamelessly edited out of the main film.

the length of the main part indicates that it shows the complete or nearly complete concert.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: May 21, 2017 13:38

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HMS
Limited Ronnie playing?
He´s marvelous and can easily make most fans forget Mick Taylor ever existed.
Great version of CYHMK! With the Stones, all live versions are different from the studio takes. This is not Supertramp, after all.
Fonda rocks!
I wonder what the 14 minutes of bonus material will be.

The bonus material will probably include some backstage scenes and interviews with fans: [iorr.org]

Maybe it will be interviews with some of the celebrities that attended the show.

If their recent releases are anything to go by, the bonus material will be tracks from the same show that have been shamelessly edited out of the main film.

the length of the main part indicates that it shows the complete or nearly complete concert.

The audio release of Sticky Fingers Live has little more than 50 minutes, so it really looks like we'll have the complete concert.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 21, 2017 16:00

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the length of the main part indicates that it shows the complete or nearly complete concert.

BV states 90 mins duration for the Fonda-Concert (8:42pm - 10:12pm) - [iorr.org] .

With 86m:35s length of the main part it could indeed be the complete concert.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 21, 2017 17:29

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I'm just frustrated that they didn't do the Sticky Fingers thing a few years ago when they had MT, Bobby Keys, and Bill Wyman all at the same show. That is 3 more essential players that helped shape the original album into the masterpiece that it was. I think anyone claiming that the Fonda version is better without those 3 is delusional. The versions of CYHMK with MT and Bobby Keys from that tour were sensational (imo), and now that can never happen again.

smileys with beer Amen brother!

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: May 21, 2017 18:04

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Ross
I'm just frustrated that they didn't do the Sticky Fingers thing a few years ago when they had MT, Bobby Keys, and Bill Wyman all at the same show. That is 3 more essential players that helped shape the original album into the masterpiece that it was. I think anyone claiming that the Fonda version is better without those 3 is delusional. The versions of CYHMK with MT and Bobby Keys from that tour were sensational (imo), and now that can never happen again.

thumbs up

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: TravelinMan ()
Date: May 21, 2017 19:45

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HMS
After Mick Taylor left the band, the Stones changed their musical direction. There was no room for delicate soloing anymore. So I never missed Taylor.

Recent tours showed a sober and focused Ron Wood playing better than before.
On the other hand... regarding MT´s guest spots... You don´t have to be Mick Taylor to play on MR, really. And listening to his very few renditions of CYHMK and Sway one might think Taylor is no longer the player he once used to be... So I doubt he would have lifted the live version of SF into incredible heights.

I don't know where you get this idea of Taylor only playing delicate solos. Sure he is versatile so he can play delicate when the song begs for it, but his solos and rhythm riffs on Gimme Shelter are apocalyptically raw with a gnarly tone.

You come across as bitter because you were first exposed to the Wood era band and refuse to allow the notion that you missed your favorite band in their prime. I venture to say I am much younger than you and I can admit that I will never see the Stones in their prime because I wasn't even born yet. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy the current line-up without diminishing the past. You put Taylor on that stage every song, every night, and I guarantee he blows everyone away.



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: May 21, 2017 20:46

I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 21, 2017 22:50

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StonedRambler
I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: May 21, 2017 23:12

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I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.
Right, but none of them are really dominant in the sticky fingers live album, so you mainly hear the core band. Chuck just adds some textures to the music as Ian Stuart did on the original album. Lisa sings just 4 songs out of 10. It would be a different thing if an extra guitarist had to be there since that would mean they are not able to do it alone. Maybe auxiliary musicians was the wrong word..

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: May 22, 2017 00:02

Chuck Leavell (have) will never add(ed) "some textures" to the music as Ian Stewart and Nicky Hopkins did on the original album and on stage.

They are not in the same category...

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Date: May 22, 2017 00:03

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I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.

9 people on stage in 1972. If I'm not mistaken there were 10 or 11 people on stage at the Fonda show.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 22, 2017 01:00

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I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.

9 people on stage in 1972. If I'm not mistaken there were 10 or 11 people on stage at the Fonda show.

They didn't use backing vocalists back then and had a smaller horn section.



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: 5strings ()
Date: May 22, 2017 02:18

So You are trying To say that the Stones were the same in 72 that now!
Awesome!!!

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 22, 2017 02:36

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5strings
So You are trying To say that the Stones were the same in 72 that now!
Awesome!!!

I'm not but I'm not sure if DandelionPowderman is. There is no comparison.



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: mpj200 ()
Date: May 22, 2017 06:31

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Your opinion.
Not mine.
After Jones and Taylor, Stones, the greatest, deserved a better guitarist than Wood.
Just simple as that.
I love this band... more less since some years...

Nice solos on records by Taylor, but live Ron is much better. I'd venture to say the band may we'll have retired by now if not for Ron hitting notes Keith can't hit anymore. The ancient form of weaving has really payed off these past few tours.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: HankM ()
Date: May 22, 2017 07:43

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the length of the main part indicates that it shows the complete or nearly complete concert.

BV states 90 mins duration for the Fonda-Concert (8:42pm - 10:12pm) - [iorr.org] .

With 86m:35s length of the main part it could indeed be the complete concert.
I hoping they got rid of the extra time between songs and it is complete.

I have been patiently waiting for this show... it is about time it came out... dang it.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: HankM ()
Date: May 22, 2017 07:59

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release date?
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No further information yet. You can expect the release date form 1 to 3 months from the date on the publication (guess it is May 12, 2017).

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Fantastic news , I can hardly wait (no I can't,) hurry up Eagle Rock

I wondered too... but this thread is mostly 6 pages Taylor cultist preaching/arguing.



Turns out roller99 had the one of the few posts of interest.

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Looks like speculation. This from sympathyforthedevils.com:

However, we will have other things to bring to our teeth, with the continuation of the series From The Vault which will probably deal with tours from Voodoo Lounge and Jagger's solo breakaway in Japan.

Also expected, the Fonda theater, which has so far only given a partial audio output, would finally be programmed for this year in DVD and Blu Ray. The sixties will also be honored, in audio and video. And finally, on the live CD side, Eagle offers us some very good surprises before the summer ...

Well, their speculation was pretty accurate. We have the standalone CDs from the combo packs, we have the Fonda coming on DVD/blu-ray, and we have the Fall European tour with the number of shows and multiple shows and no UK dates just as they indicated. Not sure why so many are hesitant to trust this site. Their track record over the years has been solid.

I'm hesitant because I review the DVDs that Eaglerock puts out. I asked them today and they denied it. My sources are usually pretty accurate too. I hope they're lying to me (see above post).

Thanks for the info roller99


Too bad... dang it...

It is beyond me why they would not just put this out.
wtf Jagger? Just do it already!

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Date: May 22, 2017 08:41

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I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.

9 people on stage in 1972. If I'm not mistaken there were 10 or 11 people on stage at the Fonda show.

They didn't use backing vocalists back then and had a smaller horn section.

Er, yes they did (but it was Keith).

Smaller horn section? Bobby and Jim back then. Tim and Karl on the Fonda show.

Not saying that any lineup is better than another, as that is pointless.

Fonda was a very good show anyhow.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Date: May 22, 2017 08:42

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So You are trying To say that the Stones were the same in 72 that now!
Awesome!!!

You forgot to quote. Who are you asking?

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: May 22, 2017 13:42

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powerage78
Your opinion.
Not mine.
After Jones and Taylor, Stones, the greatest, deserved a better guitarist than Wood.
Just simple as that.
I love this band... more less since some years...

Less love for about 42 years ?
Seems tough...


Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: Father Ted ()
Date: May 22, 2017 13:49

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Irix
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hockenheim95

the length of the main part indicates that it shows the complete or nearly complete concert.

BV states 90 mins duration for the Fonda-Concert (8:42pm - 10:12pm) - [iorr.org] .

With 86m:35s length of the main part it could indeed be the complete concert.

Good to know that we'll get the complete show.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 22, 2017 19:50

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I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.

9 people on stage in 1972. If I'm not mistaken there were 10 or 11 people on stage at the Fonda show.

They didn't use backing vocalists back then and had a smaller horn section.

Er, yes they did (but it was Keith).

Smaller horn section? Bobby and Jim back then. Tim and Karl on the Fonda show.

Not saying that any lineup is better than another, as that is pointless.

Fonda was a very good show anyhow.


The Stripped shows are better than the Sticky Fingers show in my opinion and I would actually rather hear Sticky Fingers.

So no trombonist at the Sticky Fingers show and no Matt Clifford?

Keith is a band member. I'm talking about auxiliary musicians that sing only backing vocals.

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 22, 2017 19:52

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Your opinion.
Not mine.
After Jones and Taylor, Stones, the greatest, deserved a better guitarist than Wood.
Just simple as that.
I love this band... more less since some years...

Nice solos on records by Taylor, but live Ron is much better. I'd venture to say the band may we'll have retired by now if not for Ron hitting notes Keith can't hit anymore. The ancient form of weaving has really payed off these past few tours.

Are you serious? Have you actually listened to any 1972-73 shows?



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Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Date: May 22, 2017 20:04

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I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.

9 people on stage in 1972. If I'm not mistaken there were 10 or 11 people on stage at the Fonda show.

They didn't use backing vocalists back then and had a smaller horn section.

Er, yes they did (but it was Keith).

Smaller horn section? Bobby and Jim back then. Tim and Karl on the Fonda show.

Not saying that any lineup is better than another, as that is pointless.

Fonda was a very good show anyhow.


The Stripped shows are better than the Sticky Fingers show in my opinion and I would actually rather hear Sticky Fingers.

So no trombonist at the Sticky Fingers show and no Matt Clifford?

Keith is a band member. I'm talking about auxiliary musicians that sing only backing vocals.

Matt only plays a flugelhorn on YCAGWYW. He's not in the horn duo. No trombone after the comeback in 2012.

Love the Stripped shows as well. They were 20 years younger, though..

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: May 22, 2017 20:13

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I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.

9 people on stage in 1972. If I'm not mistaken there were 10 or 11 people on stage at the Fonda show.

They didn't use backing vocalists back then and had a smaller horn section.

Er, yes they did (but it was Keith).

Smaller horn section? Bobby and Jim back then. Tim and Karl on the Fonda show.

Not saying that any lineup is better than another, as that is pointless.

Fonda was a very good show anyhow.


The Stripped shows are better than the Sticky Fingers show in my opinion and I would actually rather hear Sticky Fingers.

So no trombonist at the Sticky Fingers show and no Matt Clifford?

Keith is a band member. I'm talking about auxiliary musicians that sing only backing vocals.

Matt only plays a flugelhorn on YCAGWYW. He's not in the horn duo. No trombone after the comeback in 2012.

Love the Stripped shows as well. They were 20 years younger, though..

Does Matt Clifford play any synth at the Sticky Fingers show?

Re: Sticky Fingers Live At The Fonda to be released on DVD/Blu Ray
Date: May 22, 2017 20:46

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I am just amazed that the present-day Stones are able to play that good.
Sure, Mick Taylor would have done better Solos than Ronnie.
But that would have caused the impression that the Stones could not do it nowdays without the help of auxiliary musicans. But the fact that they can (except for the fact that they don't have a bassist) is great!

They have auxiliary musicians now with with all of the extra vocalists, horn players and keyboards. Since Darryl Jones is not an official member you could also say he is auxiliary.

9 people on stage in 1972. If I'm not mistaken there were 10 or 11 people on stage at the Fonda show.

They didn't use backing vocalists back then and had a smaller horn section.

Er, yes they did (but it was Keith).

Smaller horn section? Bobby and Jim back then. Tim and Karl on the Fonda show.

Not saying that any lineup is better than another, as that is pointless.

Fonda was a very good show anyhow.


The Stripped shows are better than the Sticky Fingers show in my opinion and I would actually rather hear Sticky Fingers.

So no trombonist at the Sticky Fingers show and no Matt Clifford?

Keith is a band member. I'm talking about auxiliary musicians that sing only backing vocals.

Matt only plays a flugelhorn on YCAGWYW. He's not in the horn duo. No trombone after the comeback in 2012.

Love the Stripped shows as well. They were 20 years younger, though..

Does Matt Clifford play any synth at the Sticky Fingers show?

Yes. The strings on Moonlight Mile.

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