Thinking of what a compilation album would look like (will never be issued, of course) for the much-derided era since Tattoo You. All together, would make a pretty great record, and a good career for most bands:

1. Undercover
2. One Hit to the Body
3. Mixed Emotions
4. Rock and a Hard Place
5. Slipping Away
6. Highwire
7. Love Is Strong
8. You Got Me Rocking
9. The Worst
10. Out of Control
11. Saint of Me
12. Don't Stop
13. Rough Justice
14. Oh No Not You Again

(Intentionally omitted: Anybody Seen My Baby? and Streets of Love - truly awful songs)

and what about
Laugh I Nearly Died,
Anybody seen my baby
SOL(wheather some of us like it or not it IS hit now)

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> (Intentionally omitted: Anybody Seen My Baby? and
> Streets of Love - truly awful songs)

If Virgin does such a compalition, take it for granted that it includes at least Anybody Seen My Baby (maybe also Streets Of Love). If Virgin Records could see your tracklist, they would probably ask you: "Where's Harlem Shuffle ? She Was Hot ? I Go Wild?" And also: "Slipping Away ? The Worst ? Oh No Not You Again ? Just album tracks, forget 'em !"

A compilation done by a record company always aims at the mass market. They would choose the most common songs from that era. If they're the best or not does not matter.

Look how the Stones compile their setlists nowadays - and why they do it like they do it: Stadium shows are aimed at the mass markets. That's why you get more than your fair share of warhorses.

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> Thinking of what a compilation album would look
> like (will never be issued, of course) for the
> much-derided era since Tattoo You. All together,
> would make a pretty great record, and a good
> career for most bands:
>
> 1. Undercover
> 2. One Hit to the Body
> 3. Mixed Emotions
> 4. Rock and a Hard Place
> 5. Slipping Away
> 6. Highwire
> 7. Love Is Strong
> 8. You Got Me Rocking
> 9. The Worst
> 10. Out of Control
> 11. Saint of Me
> 12. Don't Stop
> 13. Rough Justice
> 14. Oh No Not You Again
>
> (Intentionally omitted: Anybody Seen My Baby? and
> Streets of Love - truly awful songs)


Just looking at this list makes it more obvious why ABB songs like "It Won't Take Long" and "Laugh I Nearly Died" are among the best stuff the stones have done in 20 years.

The list ain't exactly Hot Rocks, but I still like those songs. The first decade and a half of the Stones they were superhuman creatively, like Beethoven. Since, they've been very, very good but have been slammed because the songs are not superhuman. No band should be expected to put out Let It Bleed everytime.

QUESTION: What artists have maintained their creativety into middle age and late middle age. Paul Simon comes to mind with Graceland and Rythm of the Saints, although he collaborated with African and South American musicians.

> QUESTION: What artists have maintained their
> creativety into middle age and late middle age.
> Paul Simon comes to mind with Graceland and Rythm
> of the Saints, although he collaborated with
> African and South American musicians.

Bob Dylan, I think he is genious like Shakespare or Bach.
he had several "comebacks"
first in 80 with 1983 Infidels and 1989 Oh Mercy
second 90-00 with 1997 Time Out Of Mind and 2001 Love and Theft
+ brilliant songs "Things have changed" and "Cross the green mountain"





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I think World Gone Wrong wasn't too shabby either. It was a cover album, but really good IMO. For some the voice might be to hard to go through, but for me it's one of the beauty's of recent dylan albums.

Aren't you jumping the gun on this? I think you are going to be surprised on which songs end up as hits from ABB like, Rain, Cat, yes SOL it is already in the top 20 on the European charts and in the top 5 in several of those countries.

I would say only Dylan. But even with Dylan his songs are not the mainstream type of radio friendly music the Stones once were. Yeah he had his hits but he was never one who cared about pleasing the masses. If the Stones took this sort of approach it would please fans like us but it would be interesting to see if they would still have crossed over to so many younger people like they have. And not that we care but they wouldn't be as rich as they are today.

I like a lot of latter-day Stones work, including A Bgr Bng. However, my point is that they haven't given us anything close to the work from '68-'72 since then and, doubtless, never will. Those waiting for another Let it Bleed will be disappointed - it will never happen. Those listening to the new stuff as a body of work unto itself are bound to enjoy it for what it is.

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> QUESTION: What artists have maintained their
> creativety into middle age and late middle age.
> Paul Simon comes to mind with Graceland and Rythm
> of the Saints, although he collaborated with
> African and South American musicians.

Lou Reed
Neil Young
Van Morrison
John Fogerty (few and far between releases - but they are still great)

No one seems to be able to match their prime years material. Fogerty, for instance, puts out nice songs now but nothing like "Bad Moon Rising".

Cut it down to 10 tracks and it may be some true kind of Greatest Hits:

Undercover of the night
She was hot
Harlem shuffle
Mixed emotions
Highwire
Love is strong
I go wild
Anybody seen my baby
Don't stop
Rough justice

Madness reducin Stones numberless gems these 22-23 years to 10 tracks.
Two cd´s is the least that´s reasonable to compound it into.
At least 30 tracks.

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> No one seems to be able to match their prime years
> material. Fogerty, for instance, puts out nice
> songs now but nothing like "Bad Moon Rising".

I might concede you the point on Fogerty. I would argue that both Van and Neil's latter era output is better than their respective early years, though.

I hope there's a hit on this album, I hope people haven't forgotten how to rock 'n' roll.

I ain't stupid, I'm just guitarded.

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> Madness reducin Stones numberless gems these 22-23
> years to 10 tracks.
> Two cd´s is the least that´s reasonable to
> compound it into.
> At least 30 tracks.

30 tracks is alright with me. But you'd have to call it "Sucking in the 80s 90s and 00s" since there is no greatest hit on it. I think of all the singles since 1983 "Harlem shuffle" did best and it wasn't even written by Jagger/Richards but the cover of a song first released in 1963...

Re: The Compilation

This one's a fantasy of mine, but since the singles don't chart the way they used to, why not skip the strict "Greatest Hits" concept altogether? Let's call it a "Best Of 1983-2005" and think of it along the eccentric lines of "Sucking In The Seventies?"

And why not two discs? With no overlap with "Forty Licks?"

1. "Sad Sad Sad"
2. "She Was Hot"
3. "Too Rude"
4. "Too Much Blood"
5. "Had It With You"
6. "Terrifying"
7. "Harlem Shuffle (12" remix)"
8. "Fancyman Blues"
9. "Moon Is Up"
10."Sex Drive"
11."Out of Tears"
12."Mean Disposition"
13."Continental Drift"
14."Slipping Away"


1. "Can't You Hear Me Knockin' (live)"
2. "Saint of Me"
3. "Back of my Hand"
4. "Might As Well Get Juiced (Keith's Revenge Mix)"
5. "Rip This Joint ("Stripped" outtake)"
6. "Lowdown"
7. "Laugh, I Nearly Died"
8. "No Expectations("Stripped" outtake)"
9. "Let Me Down Slow"
10."Get Up, Stand Up (live, 2005)"
11."Rough Justice"
12."Out of Control (live w/no edits)"
13."Thief In The Night/How Can I Stop"

I'm pretty sure that would rattle a few people who don't think the Stones have been worthwhile since '78...

Hey Rev

Great selection, would also add Gimmie Shelter from Stripped Companion.

rev i could go really good with yours!

mine would be

undercover
pretty beat up
too much blood
harlem shuffle
one hit
dirty work
fancyman blues
break the spell
slipping away (stripped)
love is strong
the storm
moon is up
mean disposition
so young
flip the switch
saint of me
thief in the night
rough justice
back of my hand
she saw me coming
laugh i nearly died

you forgot flip the switch and leave abb out theres too many great songs there

I like the '81-'97 material better than any period other than '68-'72.

In Two CDS:

1-Wanna Hold You
2-Sad,Sad,Sad
3-Slipping Away
4-Mixed Emotions
5-Rock And Hard Place
6-Baby Break it Down
7-Sparks Will Fly
8-The Worst
9-Love is Strong
10-Saint of Me
11-Out of Control
12-Anybody Seen My Baby?
13-You Don't Have To Mean It
14-Flip The Switch
15-Rough Justice
16-Dangerous Beauty
17-Oh No,Not You Again
18-Let Me Down Slow
19-Biggest Mistake