Sure I've heard 'em all - many times. I quite like about 8 of 'em. RFD is one of my favorites. ONNYA's the only "rocker" that interests me.

And IWTL?

sounds like a warmed over version of Lowdown, which wasn't all that inspired. sorry, it's not gonna make my "better bang" version of the album.

thats the beauty of it

Maybe it will grow on you.
And shrink to others.
Myself, I feel too pumped up to make sober judgements over the album.
I listen to more and more other stuff these days.
I felt almost weary of ABB long before it came out;
thanks to modern IT... ... At times it feels like you´ve
done the album yourself; can imagine artists dont wanna listen to their
work for looong times after its release
IWTL, though, I cant stop listening to.
My enthusiasm for RJ is goin down at the moment.

thats the beauty of it hated exile for ten liked it for ten loved it ever since one of those desert island records

Hey T&A didn't you say that SSMC was the best song by them in 22 years, or was that another T&A?

Myself I wish they released a shorter album and cut some of the slower stuff. Maybe just LIND and BOMH as breaks from the rockers, but that is just me and you would never have heard Rain Fall Down. And SOL would not be a hit in Europe.

>......sounds like a warmed over version of Lowdown, which wasn't all that inspired. sorry, it's not gonna make my "better bang" version of the album.

Listen again. The only simularity to lowdwn is the intro chords which do not repeat thru the whole song. Too me it sounds like keith "winged it" on the intro but it is nothing like the rest of it.

This doesn't mean every sub-standard sounding album will turn out to be a masterpiece.The people who underrated Exile were people looking to hear songs that would be pop-like hits.

there's nothing wrong with an album to so-called "grow" on you....if it does great....if it doesnt....oh well

uz2bstoned Wrote:
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> Hey T&A didn't you say that SSMC was the best
> song by them in 22 years, or was that another
> T&A?
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And SOL would not be a hit in Europe.


SOl is #5 in Sweden, seemingly rising,

Baboon Bro Wrote:
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> But I dont agree. This is as good as ER; Better
> than TY.
> In my ears is far better than SG.

Better than TY? No disrespect intended, but are you sure this is not just wishful thinking? IMHO, there is nothing on the album in the same league as Slave, Worried About You, Tops, Waiting On A Friend etc.

This album has hit me in the face. I keep listening & can't stop.......

It's so very lonely, you're 2,000 Light Years from home

I kind of don't follow. You end by disproving your theory, methinks.

Anyway, you may be right, but there is such as thing as so accessible (surface sheen) that on repeated playings (like, the second one) you're done. For me, that was Bridges to Babylon. I can't stand that CD. Half baked overproduced and lame songs. Immediately accessible, and then - holy crap, what... crap.

This one's going to live on, I can feel it. Like VL. Like Steel Wheels. Like Some Girls. Probably the best since Some Girls, is my first impression.

The only song I feel needs to "grow" is Neocon. But it just might.

Albums and songs shouldn't "have to" grow on you.

They just do, like it or not, and you never know when it's going to happen.

It just does.

CreedenceLives Wrote:
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>The problem really is that these albums are
> released with TOO MANY SONGS... I mean who thinks
> that even a great songwriting team is going to be
> able to put down more than about 10 or 12 ORIGINAL
> songs and have them all hit you in the face ???
>
> And the 4 or 5 yawners they put on these CD's
> really detract from the great music.
>
> I'm thinking of "By THe Way" by The Chili
> Peppers... with 7 or 8 STUPENDOUS songs and 4 or 5
> ridiculous fillers that really detract...
>
> We see it in artist after artist, and the reason
> is always the same: TOO MANY SONGS!

I remember Roger McGuinn once saying something like he'd never put more than 20 minutes of music on an LP side even though it was technically possible (with reduced sound quality) to put on 30 or more. He knew that 20 minutes of music is all most people can absorb and digest without taking a break for at least the few seconds it takes to flip the record over. CDs changed all that. Now we expect albums to contain 75 minutes of uninterrupted greatness. No one can do that. And even if they could, it's too much to listen to all at once. 20-minute LP sides. That's really the best way to listen to music that anyone has ever come up with. Maybe I'll try listening to ABB four tracks at a time, like it was a double vinyl LP. See if that helps ....



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Tatters you make some good points, but, I'm not sure they apply to Stones fans! LOL At least not this one. God, just got through listening to SOL, what a masrterpiece! And then BOMH! Lower the boom baby!

I ain't stupid, I'm just guitarded.

>> "Albums Shouldn't Have To "Grow On You""

Says who and who cares?
If you like it you like it.

Some songs or albums that grab you immediately are usually full of poppy hooks that grow tiresome very quickly.

"Rough justice" did ph uk all for me the first few listens, but then I got the proverbial 'smack in the face' and I thought "this song kicks arse!".

"Biggest mistake" and "Look what the cat dragged in" grabbed me straight away, but it makes no difference cos I'm sure they would have got hold of me eventually anyway.

Who cares how you get to liking an album so long as you do?
And even then if you don't get to liking it, it's no biggie.

Dirty Work is still growing on me! hahaha.

kyle m

Have you ever lent somebody $20 and never seen them again? It was probably worth it.

I share Mick's opinion about Exile, not Keith's (According to the Rollong Stones, 2004). I think that's not a good album at all, bad studio work, many fillers, but of course some great tracks. Sticky fingers is the absolute highlight of stones-history.

tatters Wrote:
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> I'm inclined to think there is something
> inherently wrong with any album that has to "grow
> on you". It should hit you right in the face the
> first time you hear it, and then, moment it's
> over, you should want to hear it again and again
> and again. You should not be able to get it out of
> your head. You should want to hear it over and
> over.
>
> Sticky Fingers was like that. ABB is not. But
> then, neither was EOMS, at least, not at first.


Bollocks dude.

No record ever has hit me right on the spot, and that includes Stones. And there will never be one.

JumpingKentFlash

<I'm inclined to think there is something inherently wrong with any album that has to "grow on you".>

The best example of an album that had to grow on me is Exile On Main Street. That says it all

uz2bstoned Wrote:
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> Hey T&A didn't you say that SSMC was the best
> song by them in 22 years, or was that another
> T&A?
>

yes - I did say that and I still say that....

One of the problems with a new Stones album is that
it comes out in the shadow of so many other
greats by the boys. We have so many
expectations, that we can't always
judge, or appreciate it, in its
own right. In that sense we
often have to just let it
grow on us before we
jump to any conclusions...........

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