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DandelionPowderman
Er, Quadrophenia is light years better than It's Hard..
I sort of agree and at the same time I do not...
If you put Quads best songs on a single LP, you´d get an album better than It´s Hard. But as a double album containing the usual (unavoidable????) amount of fillers Quad has to step back. It´s Hard is all killers, no fillers, which not happens very often with Who-albums.
Face Dances is also a great but sadly underrated album. It may be a bit "smoother" than what people might expect from The Who, but the album has plenty of good songs - and Roger still sang "a razor line". I love both albums, but prefer It´s Hard because of it´s more rocking approach.
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LeonidP
To say Quad has filler shows an incredible ignorance on what it was ... one of the great concept albums of all time, and there is not a single musical note of filler.
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To say Quad has filler shows an incredible ignorance on what it was ... one of the great concept albums of all time, and there is not a single musical note of filler.
It was one of the great bloated concept albums of all time...would have been much better as a single disc.
Love Reign O'er Me? The Who were drifing pretty close to Prog-Rock on that one.
I'd rather hear Squeeze Box.
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LeonidP
To say Quad has filler shows an incredible ignorance on what it was ... one of the great concept albums of all time, and there is not a single musical note of filler.
It was one of the great bloated concept albums of all time...would have been much better as a single disc.
Love Reign O'er Me? The Who were drifing pretty close to Prog-Rock on that one.
I'd rather hear Squeeze Box.
Really? C'mon, Love Reign O'er Me is a brilliant, brilliant piece of music, both in terms of composition and execution. Such passion! Squeeze Box? Fun tune but filler compared to the bulk of Quadrophenia or Who's Next.
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loog droog
The Who By Numbers was Townshend pointedly making a record minus the synths that he used so brilliantly on Lifehouse/Who's Next and then went over the top with on Quadrophenia (where the band tried to tour playing along with tapes!) and then way, way over with the music for the Tommy soundtrack.
By '75 there was a pre-Punk synth backlash brewing. Look at the credits on those early Queen records where they boast about not using them.
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LeonidP
To say Quad has filler shows an incredible ignorance on what it was ... one of the great concept albums of all time, and there is not a single musical note of filler.
It was one of the great bloated concept albums of all time...would have been much better as a single disc...
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The Sicilian
So what is all the disdain for Kenney Jones? He certainly made his bones in the business with the Small Faces. He was always treated like the Chuck Leavell of the Stones. The one thing that kind of clashed with the Who was that he was a speed drummer. He always played like he was on Meth or something. He must of beat the hell out of those skins.
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LeonidP
Yeah, that wasn't just me stating an opinion, it basically a musical fact, agreed on by any credible critic, review, true musical fan, etc. Your ignorance of this looms large as well...
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LeonidP
Yeah, that wasn't just me stating an opinion, it basically a musical fact, agreed on by any credible critic, review, true musical fan, etc. Your ignorance of this looms large as well...
Good Lord.
Yes, I am not a "true musical fan."
It's clear to all my friends that I habitually lie...I just bring them down.
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HMS
I´ve always loved It´s Hard. I cannot detect one single bad song on the album. Most songs are even brilliant. This album is better than Face Dances and I admit to have much love for Face Dances, too.
Who Are You, Who By Numbers are not as good as It´s Hard, IMO. Endless Wire is awful bad. How can anyone listen to this and think of It´s Hard as bad?
Listening to Pete´s solo-albums I don´t feel he saved the better songs for his own albums. I´m not very much fond of his solo-work. Empty Glass & White City, never liked those albums... Face The Face is a good song, but I can´t imagine it as a Who-song. So Pete probably knew which songs to use for what project.
It´s Hard is their best studio album since Who´s Next.
For an album recorded in the 80s, It´s Hard is brilliant (just like DW).
It kicks off great with Athena and finishes brilliantly with Cry If You Want.
9.5 out of 10 for their last great album.
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A really awful record, as is Faces Dances. Between solo albums and the Who, It's Hard was Townshend's fourth album in less than 2 1/2 years. He was keeping his best stuff for his own records (Empty Glass and Chinese Eyes) and leaving the Who with scraps. He was overextended, and it showed. Eminence Front is aces, Cry If You Want ain't bad (though it borrows from Communication off of Chinese Eyes), but otherwise keep both albums.
I hadn't really thought about that before.
But yes.
I thnk Chinese Eyes in particular is a fantastic album...both lyrically & musically.
I'm now thnking further about what's on those albums and whether it was a case of him cynically saving his best stuff for his own albums...
...or whether the best stuff he was writing jsut didn't lend itself so well jto the style & sound of The Who.
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crholmstrom
Eminence Front is the proof that even the crappiest Who album has 1 good song...
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LeonidP
Yeah, that wasn't just me stating an opinion, it basically a musical fact, agreed on by any credible critic, review, true musical fan, etc. Your ignorance of this looms large as well...
Good Lord.
Yes, I am not a "true musical fan."
It's clear to all my friends that I habitually lie...I just bring them down.
Good start, the first step is admitting it.
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peoplewitheyes
by the way, Hairball, that was a fantastic outtake/demo of a great track.. Do you have any more of that?
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I´ve always loved It´s Hard. I cannot detect one single bad song on the album. Most songs are even brilliant. This album is better than Face Dances and I admit to have much love for Face Dances, too.
Who Are You, Who By Numbers are not as good as It´s Hard, IMO. Endless Wire is awful bad. How can anyone listen to this and think of It´s Hard as bad?
Listening to Pete´s solo-albums I don´t feel he saved the better songs for his own albums. I´m not very much fond of his solo-work. Empty Glass & White City, never liked those albums... Face The Face is a good song, but I can´t imagine it as a Who-song. So Pete probably knew which songs to use for what project.
It´s Hard is their best studio album since Who´s Next.
For an album recorded in the 80s, It´s Hard is brilliant (just like DW).
It kicks off great with Athena and finishes brilliantly with Cry If You Want.
9.5 out of 10 for their last great album.
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DandelionPowderman
Two albums I don't care a lot for. God knows I've tried, but...
ER is a bad example, Blueranger. There are lots of good stuff on that album. Try DW.
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HMS
Voodoo Lounge IS a killer album if you keep the best songs and add I´m Gonna Drive & Jump On Top Of Me Baby. You can do that also with B2B & VL and it will work fine. Shorten it, those albums are bloated. Only Steel Wheels is a hopeless case, anyway you look at it, all you can get is a 5-track-EP.(and only if you´re in good mood)
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HonkeyTonkFlash
Steel Wheels is not a bad album but it's not really special either.
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HonkeyTonkFlash
Steel Wheels is not a bad album but it's not really special either.
Most of it is just boring. Most songs are useless crap. Who would listen to it if it wasn´t a Stones-record? Nobody. Songs worth listening to are
Break The Spell---great
Sad Sad Sad----good
Hearts For Sale----good
Hold On To Your Hat----great
Mixed Emotions---ok
...only two great songs, that´s even less than GHS has.
The rest of SW is boring, boring, boring. Especially Keith´s tracks are disappointing. Just crap, IMO. He can and always could do better than that.
The best song they have recorded during the SW-sessions is Fancy Man Blues.
The Who´s It´s Hard is 10 miles above Steel Wheels.
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HonkeyTonkFlash
Steel Wheels is not a bad album but it's not really special either.
Most of it is just boring. Most songs are useless crap. Who would listen to it if it wasn´t a Stones-record? Nobody. Songs worth listening to are
Break The Spell---great
Sad Sad Sad----good
Hearts For Sale----good
Hold On To Your Hat----great
Mixed Emotions---ok
...only two great songs, that´s even less than GHS has.
The rest of SW is boring, boring, boring. Especially Keith´s tracks are disappointing. Just crap, IMO. He can and always could do better than that.
The best song they have recorded during the SW-sessions is Fancy Man Blues.
The Who´s It´s Hard is 10 miles above Steel Wheels.
Sad Sad Sad - great
Mixed Emotions - very good
Terrifying - excellent
Hearts For Sale - great
Almost Hear You Sigh - great
Continental Drift - excellent
Break The Spell - great
Slipping Away - excellent
Not too shabby, I'd say..