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Bashlets
To be honest they could release a great album and we’d complain. Bottom line: we’re a lot older and responsibilities and priorities in life have changed like kids/ grand kids. I was 16 in 1978, partying and sex and probably literally wore 10 vinyl copies of Some Girls out. It was our youth and as much as we want to relive it we can’t. Was 10 when I saw the stones on Dick Cavett with my older brother and at the time my shocked mother and I was hooked. Went from the Partridge Family directly to the Stones and have had every studio/ live album the first day of release since GHS. Excited for new music absolutely. Will I have stories to reminisce like skipped school with some friends, got baked, and played the new stones album 10 times straight blaring out of large tower speakers and then we got caught for skipping school- most likely not. Stones album releases were like second comings in the Boston area. Radio stations like WBCN and WAAF which no longer exist would announce “ we just got the new Stones Album in and will be playing it in its entirety at midnight tonight” and you would spend the day cranking the radio dial back and forth with your cassette player ready to tape hoping to get some of the songs before midnight. It was truly like Santa had arrived. Want a great album but doubtful it would have the magic of our youth.
you basically just described my/our experience in Kenova, WV ...especially with the radio station,etc
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georgemcdonnell314
You forgot the part about camping out for tickets.
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GasLightStreet
They've had 18 years to write it. One generation basically.
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I agree.
Period.
The new album better be stellar. It should be. Why not? Mick's gone on about it having to be great - not like the previous... what, the last one in 2005? That's easy to say.
They've had 18 years to write it. One generation basically. Living In A Ghost Town was excellent. It better not be on the album.
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Christiaan
ROCKY DIJON can you tell me which song was Plundered My Soul as a bootleg? I never heard that song on a bootleg. I’m not saying I have or know all the recording, not at all. So I’m very curious if you can lead me to that (original) recordingI do think I heard most of the other songs before, Yes they added some new lyrics or overdubs.
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Christiaan
ROCKY DIJON can you tell me which song was Plundered My Soul as a bootleg? I never heard that song on a bootleg. I’m not saying I have or know all the recording, not at all. So I’m very curious if you can lead me to that (original) recordingI do think I heard most of the other songs before, Yes they added some new lyrics or overdubs.
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Hairball
(AB... I'd say close to half of the album is pretty darn good. Songs like Laugh I Nearly Died and Rain Fall Down...not bad at all. Even Rough Justice and Oh No Not You Again are half way decent tunes if you keep an open mind and ignore some of the lyrics and poor production. Yes Sweet Neocon, Streets of Love, and Infamy are terrible on almost every level, but in the context of the album are slightly more tolerable.
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doitywoik
As for me, none of the new/bonus tracks on Exile or SG or TY are such great songs that they make up for the lack of new stuff not even Plundered My Soul). In all cases I'm not surprised they did not make it onto the original releases. They are nowhere near the “quality” e.g. of the outtakes that Jethro Tull released on Nightcap. But that's only me...
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Rocky Dijon
Soldatti, mpj, or anyone else hear rumblings about an anthology package featuring several "new" songs with Charlie as bonus tracks while the studio album will only feature Steve Jordan? This was allegedly discussed by Universal.
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colonial
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I agree.
Period.
The new album better be stellar. It should be. Why not? Mick's gone on about it having to be great - not like the previous... what, the last one in 2005? That's easy to say.
They've had 18 years to write it. One generation basically. Living In A Ghost Town was excellent. It better not be on the album.
Referring to "the last one in 2005" is your own idea on how that one wasn't "great", right? Not that Mick said that, or so I wonder?
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doitywoik
Are you perhaps referring to the recent Ronnie interview where he said something about a collection (or so) of songs? (I can't recall the actual wording right now.) I understood this in such a way that he meant a collection of songs they recorded since 2016 (or whatever the year was when they did the first new album session) out of all the songs they recorded since then, and that some of them have Charlie on the drums.
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Doxa
I guess we should now conclude that the sessions for a new album in LA are over, since Mick was last night in London watching his brother's gig. The Christmas holiday season now I suppose.
- Doxa
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doitywoik
Are you perhaps referring to the recent Ronnie interview where he said something about a collection (or so) of songs? (I can't recall the actual wording right now.) I understood this in such a way that he meant a collection of songs they recorded since 2016 (or whatever the year was when they did the first new album session) out of all the songs they recorded since then, and that some of them have Charlie on the drums.
No, it wasn't from Ronnie. About a month ago, a "friend" on social media with ties to Universal told me there would be an anniversary package with a greatest hits disc and a second disc made up of newly finished/remixed outtakes from STEEL WHEELS forward. Half of the second disc would be "new" material recorded over the last several years with Charlie. Next year's studio album would then be all Steve and no Charlie. I haven't heard it from anyone else nor has anyone answered the question of whether the decision (if real) is as much about Don Was as it is Charlie.
Hits with newer material seems odd. If it was an anthology spanning the same era as the hits (broader range with stronger material) seems more credible. As it is, such a package seems like something that was more likely in the past and less likely in 2023.
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ROCKY DIJON can you tell me which song was Plundered My Soul as a bootleg? I never heard that song on a bootleg. I’m not saying I have or know all the recording, not at all. So I’m very curious if you can lead me to that (original) recordingI do think I heard most of the other songs before, Yes they added some new lyrics or overdubs.
As Doxa said, the backing track sans lead guitar did not circulate among bootleggers. I'm not aware of any collectors who had ever heard it. However, they didn't add "some new lyrics or overdubs," it was far more substantial. The outtake was an instrumental that had lyrics written for it in 2009. Mick created a melody line which Mick Taylor then cut a lead guitar track for in 2009. Half the song wasn't composed prior to 2009 and only the bottom existed as a recording since lead and backing vocals and lead guitar were 2009 additions.
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doitywoik
It they really plan to release yet another compilation now, only 3,5 years after Honk, they better pep it up with something sufficiently attractive to people who already have a shelfful of Stones compilations at home to make them buy yet another compilation. As long as other compilations are still in print or available online (which perhaps all of them are) and considering the fact that most people who prefer a compilation to buying umpteen albums already have one, the main target group is quite likely the seasoned, if not die-hard, fans. And what is interesting to the seasoned or die-hard Stones fan is unreleased material. Honk Deluxe has recent live tracks (that possibly wouldn’t have sold as a live album by themselves), so the live card cannot reasonably be played this time. This leaves us with remixes or alternative versions of familiar stuff or new or hitherto unreleased songs. Since remixes and alternative versions are only the poor man’s bonus tracks, new songs with Charlie would come in handy as bonus material.
If the plan is really a CD filled with remixes, alternative versions and Charlie tracks, this leads one to conclude that there are not enough useable tracks with Charlie for a full CD and only a handful of songs are in a publishable shape. If they don’t want to have the Charlie tracks together on the same album with the new Steve Jordan tracks this could mean two things: (i) there are so many great tracks with Steve that there is simply no space for the Charlie tracks on the new album, or (ii) the Charlie tracks aren’t that great songs, or even the useable tracks are rather advanced demos than ready-produced tracks and since Charlie isn’t available any more for overdubs they cannot be fully finished. Time will tell (or not).
What the Stones themselves say about all this is as cryptic as ever. Keith told us, we haven’t heard the last of Charlie yet - which is true irrespective of whether the last of Charlie is ever going to be released or not, or in which form. Ronnie said (more or less) that a bunch of new songs is going to be released - which (as we already saw) likewise leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Mick merely told us we shouldn’t hold our breath - which we didn’t anyway, otherwise we wouldn’t be around to discuss all this.
Depending on for how long we still have to not hold our breath we might push this thread to page 700 or even beyond ...