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georgelicks
The success of B&L will change the things in the near future of the Stones, there's a big market out there wanting this kind of stuff from them, more than 1 million albums sold in less than 3 weeks with minimal work in the studio, Universal will push them in this way, not many acts on today's market can sell 1 million albums so fast.
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black n blue
Bigger bang is outstanding guitar filled cd.
I bet...simplify the songs..give the people what they want...criminal they didn't promote some girls deluxe....that's what I want hear....Bigger Bang had no personality...and the best song Under The Radar wasn't even on it!Quote
georgelicks
The success of B&L will change the things in the near future of the Stones, there's a big market out there wanting this kind of stuff from them, more than 1 million albums sold in less than 3 weeks with minimal work in the studio, Universal will push them in this way, not many acts on today's market can sell 1 million albums so fast.
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laertisflash
"Bigger Bang had no personality..."
I have to disagree, Rip This. ABB was a really good album. With tracks which varied from decent to excellent. With the variety and balance between different tunes (R'n R, blues, funk, etc) that usually characterises the Stones albums. The advantage of B&L has to do with the fact that it's a NON USUAL Stones album. It's something different. In addition, B&L has a strong touching element because, how to say, the Stones playing the blues (and the blues only) again is, as I said on another thread, like the return of Odysseus to Ithaki...
BTW, it surprises me the fact that some fans here consider ABB as an unsuccessful commercially album. Once again, ABB sold more than 2.5 million worldwide. Good number for 2005 and 2006, era of massive downloading already. How could an album do bad sales, staying two weeks at #1 of the Global Chart (Media Traffic), five weeks on Top 15 and nine on Top 40? Just think about it.
B&L does sell clearly better, of course. But I don't think it's huge success means that the Stones have to prepare, now, one country - covers album, one reggae - covers, etc, etc...
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Hairball
It's opinion not 'hype' J.Kirk, and seemingly the consensus amongst many.
Granted there are some who like those and deem them worthy (like yourself), and they have every right to do so.
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Even the Stones don't give them any thought when playing live in concert...except maybe one or two songs?
They don't play a solid half of "Exile On Main St." live in concert either.
Neither do they play material from 1962-1967 (other than Satisfaction,Paint it Black just recently and once in a while Get Off of My Cloud) when they were "so much better" than they were in the '90's .
They don't play much from "Beggars' Banquet" nor "Black and Blue" nor "It's Only Rock 'n' Roll" nor "Emotional Rescue" not "Goats Head Soup" now that I think of it,they don't play most of their material on anything less than an occasional basis.
I take it you're a fan of alot of the 'recent' stuff, as well as Jagger solo going by your username - that's great!
To clarify for you, I wasn't saying they play whole sides of albums like Exile. They have so many great tunes spread out from their first 20 years that they're able to pick and choose from that era as they please. ALL the warhorses are from this period. I can only think of two songs that are sometimes played from the last 30 years (correct me if I'm wrong*)- Out of Control and You Got Me Rockin' - and by no means can they considered warhorses. They recently played Mixed Emotions, and have to say it was as bad as it was on the studio album - just my opinion. They have completely forgotten their most recent studio album of originals - A Bigger Bang - and rightfully/thankfully so. On the recent 'mini-tour', they weren't even playing Doom and Gloom or One More Shot from GRRRR anymore. Make of that what you will, but my opinion remains the same - the Stones were indeed so much better in their first 20 years.
*edit: Keith still plays Slipping Away occasionally?
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corriecas
Yeah, the succes of blue n lonesome will puzzle the Stones also. and it will put a lot of strain on the band. But i am sure they will put every effort into it, to make it a GREAT new album.
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Hairball
Thanks KRiffhard - that must be the one!
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laertisflash
"Bigger Bang had no personality..."
I have to disagree, Rip This. ABB was a really good album. With tracks which varied from decent to excellent. With the variety and balance between different tunes (R'n R, blues, funk, etc) that usually characterises the Stones albums. The advantage of B&L has to do with the fact that it's a NON USUAL Stones album. It's something different. In addition, B&L has a strong touching element because, how to say, the Stones playing the blues (and the blues only) again is, as I said on another thread, like the return of Odysseus to Ithaki...
BTW, it surprises me the fact that some fans here consider ABB as an unsuccessful commercially album. Once again, ABB sold more than 2.5 million worldwide. Good number for 2005 and 2006, era of massive downloading already. How could an album do bad sales, staying two weeks at #1 of the Global Chart (Media Traffic), five weeks on Top 15 and nine on Top 40? Just think about it.
B&L does sell clearly better, of course. But I don't think it's huge success means that the Stones have to prepare, now, one country - covers album, one reggae - covers, etc, etc...
Totally agree...but i'm afraid that Universal want other covers.
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georgelicks
The success of B&L will change the things in the near future of the Stones, there's a big market out there wanting this kind of stuff from them, more than 1 million albums sold in less than 3 weeks with minimal work in the studio, Universal will push them in this way, not many acts on today's market can sell 1 million albums so fast.
Indeed and it's hard to imagine them coming up with new material of "importance" (to quote "Lem Motlow") after nothing of great substance for decades...On the other hand they could probably find some interesting unknown "soul" songs to cover too, heck, "All Your Love" has some funkiness to it and it's one of the best surprises of B&L ;-)
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georgelicks
Maybe the last one is the song where they "hit the wall", B&L comes right behind it.
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HonkeyTonkFlash
I've been skeptical about what the Stones might produce these days but the performances on Blue and Lonesome and Havana Moon have renewed my hopes that these boys can still have some surprises in them. Fingers crossed for some good original material.
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Rocky Dijon
The title "Get Out of My Way" evokes ugly memories of "One Day, One Night" from SUPERHEAVY. I think it was Rolling Stone's review that claimed that song recalled "Sister Morphine." It was perhaps the only time in my life I contemplated harming a critic over a review.
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mpj200
Universal also owns Stones catalogue material. And sales for those records go up when they tour. I'm not so sure another blues cover would sell like B and L.
Time is not on their side if touring Europe becomes their priority this year. And Mick and Keith seem to be on different pages on these "new" songs.
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Saying that they pick tracks from their first 20 years is misleading. I could say that they pick tracks from their first 50 years and still be technically accurate.
In reality,they pick tracks mainly from '69 to '72 and also 1978. "Let it Bleed" , a majority of "Sticky Fingers" , maybe six regular tracks from the "Exile" double album , and also they love picking tracks from "Some Girls".
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Winning Ugly VXII
To call a spade a spade "Mixed Emotions" from Desert Trip was better than any live version of "Miss You" performed during the past 13 years.
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The core of the audience,in the vast majority,either grew up listening to older Rolling Stones material and / or has become familiar with it via the radio airplay.
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The reality is that if you take away "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" and maybe "Paint it Black" from the equation,material from 1989 and forward has appeared in their live concerts much more often than anything from the pre-1968 era.
You might not even need to take "Paint it Black" out of consideration. There have been plenty of concerts after 1990 without "Paint it Black" (and before 1989). There have been VERY FEW without anything from the 'Steel Wheels' and newer era.