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Hairball
I'd think it would be worth the "risk" to put out a new album - when every single live show receives a glowing 5 star review, certainly a new album will do similar as far as the critics go.
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Hairball
I'd think it would be worth the "risk" to put out a new album - when every single live show receives a glowing 5 star review, certainly a new album will do similar as far as the critics go.
I would agree with you, however we're not looking at it from their eyes, and we have nothing to lose.
Still, I hope they see fit to put out that great final release.
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Hairball
I'd think it would be worth the "risk" to put out a new album - when every single live show receives a glowing 5 star review, certainly a new album will do similar as far as the critics go.
I would agree with you, however we're not looking at it from their eyes, and we have nothing to lose.
Still, I hope they see fit to put out that great final release.
I don't think they have for ages cared what the critics say. They are way beyond that stage when opinions of some random critic matter to them. Their only criterion is the response from their audiences. They know what success is, and that's not reading a five-star review of "best since EXILE", like about each of their albums have been hailed since the 80's. If we are to believe the critics, them or none of their contemporaries who have released new albums recently have released nothing but masterpieces or close, no matter selling next to nothing, and even the biggest die-hard fans struggling to remember most of the song titles a half year later (show me a classic rock artist that that got less than four stars for 20 years). Typically the media in question picks up the 'specialist' (a fan really), the oldest one in staff in any case, and he or she uses the opportunity to praise and defend the hero in question.
The real value and significance of an album lies elsewhere. Their career has build on selling albums, making songs with a huge impact. They understand what releasing new music can really mean, the real function of it. For them, if taking the money and the listeners out of it, would be like wanking, instead of having a proper sex. No money there, no one actually interested in listening it, and in concert if you play them, people just got bored or go to a toilet.
Whatever the Stones are, they are not w ankers. Surely some of us would like to see them as 'pure artists', who release new music for the sake of releasing new music since their inner muse is forcing them to do that, but I don' t think this romantic and naive idea has ever applied to them. They've always been way more pragmatic and professional.
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NilsHolgersson
How can you be one day able to write Gimme Shelter, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses and Paint It Black, and later be able to write nothing for 20 years?
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How can you be one day able to write Gimme Shelter, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses and Paint It Black, and later be able to write nothing for 20 years?
By getting older? When you're 20 years old it's probably easier to earn a gold medal at the Olympics than with 50 years (or older) ....
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jahisnotdead
I disagree.
They may have started by doing covers, but in my opinion the Rolling Stones did not become the band people love by only doing covers. Once they started writing their own songs they really became The Rolling Stones. To me it's the difference between the Stones covering a song and a "Rolling Stones song."
I feel that once any band stops creating original music, they're little more than a cover band. I resisted the urge to call anything past 1989 "the Vegas years", but there's truth in that. The Stones are now their own cover band. A band sells merchandise, but the original music is the "merchandise" that made the band marketable in the first place. It's what made us fall in love with them and made them so special. Now the Stones are happy to sell us concert tickets and shirts, but it seems actual new music is at the bottom of the priority list.
If done right, a new album can still generate money. Lots of artists young and old still put out albums. Jack White is putting out two albums this year. Paul McCartney did well with his last album; two albums if you count the remixed version. Records still sell. But way, way beyond that, the music enriches our lives in ways that are priceless. Every Stones album has some music that means something to me. The Fully Finished bootlegs were fantastic but bittersweet. I would have been more than happy to pay the Stones for the real thing. It's sad to get new Stones music via bootleg.
Ah well, it's all academic at this point. I've lost hope that there will be any new album. Maybe for 2062 they'll have it done. I hope I'm wrong,
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treaclefingers
For whatever reason, they're not satisfied with it, or at least can't come to agreement and just push it off to 'later'.
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NilsHolgersson
How can you be one day able to write Gimme Shelter, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses and Paint It Black, and later be able to write nothing for 20 years?
By getting older? When you're 20 years old it's probably easier to earn a gold medal at the Olympics than with 50 years (or older) ....
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NilsHolgersson
How can you be one day able to write Gimme Shelter, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses and Paint It Black, and later be able to write nothing for 20 years?
By getting older? When you're 20 years old it's probably easier to earn a gold medal at the Olympics than with 50 years (or older) ....
Didn't realize there was physical fitness involved or was a requirement in order to complete a new album.
If that's the case, Dylan, the Who, Neil, Bob, Springsteen, et al are still in fighting shape and are contenders for winning medals.
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How can you be one day able to write Gimme Shelter, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses and Paint It Black, and later be able to write nothing for 20 years?
By getting older? When you're 20 years old it's probably easier to earn a gold medal at the Olympics than with 50 years (or older) ....
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Drugs really do some marvellous things........
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Hairball
Didn't realize there was physical fitness involved or was a requirement in order to complete a new album. If that's the case, Dylan, the Who, Neil, Bob, Springsteen, et al are still in fighting shape and are contenders for winning medals.
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VoodooLounge13
Drugs really do some marvellous things........
Different topic & intentionally left out ....
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a lot of their classic stuff was written under the influence of one substance or another
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How can you be one day able to write Gimme Shelter, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses and Paint It Black, and later be able to write nothing for 20 years?
By getting older? When you're 20 years old it's probably easier to earn a gold medal at the Olympics than with 50 years (or older) ....
Didn't realize there was physical fitness involved or was a requirement in order to complete a new album.
If that's the case, Dylan, the Who, Neil, Bob, Springsteen, et al are still in fighting shape and are contenders for winning medals.
I think Mick would beat them all in a track and field match, so why are we only getting new songs from the others
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Stoneage
People actually want a new boring blues cover album?
No we already have a good one with Blue & Lonesome. What I would like to see though, is a version two of that concept. The blues was obviously important in the Stones, but what about an album of old soul, country and reggae covers? That rendition of You Win Again on SG Deluxe was masterful.
And I want the new album too.
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Big Al
Just release a new album already, dammit. How difficult can it be?? Jesus! 530 pages of shite!
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NilsHolgersson
How can you be one day able to write Gimme Shelter, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses and Paint It Black, and later be able to write nothing for 20 years?
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GJV
I bet that if anyone of us would ever have the chance to listen to all they have recorded the last 17 years, we could compile an decent album with 10-12 songs on it, maybe even a good to great album.
Charlie asked what happened with the new album, he thought they had already finished it. And even that was years ago.
In the worst case if there are not enough finished tracks, than just use a couple of the best outtakes, for example from the fully finished tracks, or from the Dirty Work album, which a lot of the outtakes are better than most of the songs on the actual album.