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Re: OT - RIP John Glenn
Posted by: MileHigh ()
Date: December 10, 2016 11:40

Thank you Mr. Glenn.

Hey! I remember the moon landing, and based on previous comments there are many many people on this web site that remember the moon landing.

The physics are pretty straightforward, it's all doable. I visited the Kennedy Space Center in the 1990s, it was fun and interesting. It pains me that there are people that believe in a flat Earth and that we did not go to the moon.

Re: OT - RIP John Glenn
Posted by: Woody24 ()
Date: December 10, 2016 15:52

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The Sicilian

WWII vet...astronaut...senator...astronaut again...HEROthumbs upthumbs up

Agreed. Especially on his war service alone.

Off topic but space related, is there anyone here that is skeptical about the moon landing, that it never really happened? I'm very very skeptical about it. I just find it very hard to believe that the technology existed to accomplish it with such crude machinery, and has not even been remotely considered since.

With telescopes that can see millions of miles away, how come no current pictures exist of the flag or any other machinery left on the moon?

As a famous talk show host on air in Cincinnati always says..."Remember, these things are harder to FAKE, than they are to DO."

I had the honor to meet John Glenn at hotel in Dayton. A distinguished and humble gentleman.

"Take all the pain...It's yours anyway"

Re: OT - RIP John Glenn
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: December 10, 2016 16:24

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CaptainCorella


If the US faked the moon landings (how many? all of them?) did the Russians also fake theirs?

If that's a test.... I passed. The USSR (not "Russia") never had any moon landings. To date only 24 humans have stood on the moon - all of them Americans.

[Headsmack] Well, that's just damn embarrassing. I was sure they had... Going back to bed, this has all the signs of A Bad Day. [Grumble]


Re: OT - RIP John Glenn
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: March 8, 2017 19:40

Godspeed, John Glenn


Use your imagination ...

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Posting photoshop faked pictures on IORR might be fun but in general I will not allow it.

Re: OT - RIP John Glenn
Posted by: buttons67 ()
Date: March 8, 2017 21:35

rip john glenn,

on the subject of did we fake a moon landing, if we did, it was the biggest lie ever, its difficult to conceal a big lie and landing on the moon was big, and it would have been faked 6 times. Why fake it 6 times if faking it once was a challenge.

Many people were on the mercury, gemini and apollo missions, if something wasnt going to do what it pretended it was designed to do, wouldnt engineers have known, it would come to the point where thousands of engineers would have guessed a fake landing was on the menu, and only taken just 1 or 2 to reveal the truth.

It would be impossible to fake a moon landing, so much easier just to go, with the plans that the engineers designed.

Re: OT - RIP John Glenn
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: March 8, 2017 21:42

No fakery
Sisters twenty feet from stardom ...





The Story of NASA’s Real “Hidden Figures”
African-American women working behind the scenes as “human computers” were vital to the Space Race

In the 1960s, Mercury astronauts Alan Shepard, Gus Grissom, John Glenn and others absorbed the accolades of being the first men in space. Behind the scenes, they were supported by hundreds of unheralded NASA workers, including "human computers" who did the calculations for their orbital trajectories. "Hidden Figures," a 2016 book by Margot Lee Shetterly and a movie based on the book, celebrates the contributions of some of those workers.
Beginning in 1935, the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA), a precursor of NASA, hired hundreds of women as computers. The job title designated someone who performed mathematical equations and calculations by hand, according to a NASA history. The computers worked at the Langley Memorial Aeronautical Laboratory in Virginia.
Human computers were not a new concept. In the late 19th and early 20thcentury, female “computers” at Harvard University analyzed star photos to learn more about their basic properties. These women made discoveries still fundamental to astronomy today. For example: Williamina Fleming is best known for classifying stars based on their temperature, and Annie Jump Cannon developed a stellar classification system still used today (from coolest to hottest stars: O, B, A, F, G, K, M.)
During World War II, the computer pool was expanded. Langley began recruiting African-American women with college degrees to work as computers, according to NASA. However, segregation policies required that these women work in a separate section, called the West Area Computers—although computing sections became more integrated after the first several years. 
As the years passed and the center evolved, the West Computers became engineers, (electronic) computer programmers, the first black managers at Langley and trajectory whizzes whose work propelled the first American, John Glenn, into orbit in 1962. 
"Hidden Figures" focuses on three computers, Mary Jackson, Katherine Johnson and Dorothy Vaughan. Here are brief biographies of these women:



MARY JACKSON (1921-2005)

Jackson hailed from Hampton, Virginia. She graduated with high marks from high school and received a bachelor of science degree from the Hampton Institute in Mathematics and Physical Science, according to a biography posted on NASA's website. She began her career as a schoolteacher, and took on several other jobs before joining NACA.
As a computer with the all-black West Area Computing section, she was involved with wind tunnels and flight experiments. Her job was to extract the relevant data from experiments and flight tests. She also tried to help other women advance in their career, according to the biography, by advising them on what educational opportunities to pursue. 
"She discovered that occasionally it was something as simple as a lack of a couple of courses, or perhaps the location of the individual, or perhaps the assignments given them, and of course, the ever present glass ceiling that most women seemed to encounter," stated the biography.
After 30 years with NACA and NASA (at which point she was an engineer), Jackson decided to become an equal opportunity specialist to help women and minorities. Although described as a behind-the-scenes sort of worker, she helped many people get promoted or become supervisors. She retired from NASA in 1985.




DOROTHY VAUGHAN (1910-2008)

Vaughan joined the Langley Memorial Aeronautical Laboratory in 1943 after beginning her career as a math teacher in Farmville, Virginia. Her job during World War II was a temporary position, but (in part thanks to a new executive order prohibiting discrimination in the defense industry) she was hired on permanently because the laboratory had a wealth of data to process. 
Still, the law required that she and her black colleagues needed to work separately from white female computers, and the first supervisors were white. Vaughan became the first black NACA supervisor in 1949 and made sure that her employees received promotions or pay raises if merited.
Her segregation was ended in 1958 when NACA became NASA, at which point NASA created an analysis and computation division. Vaughan was an expert programmer in FORTRAN, a prominent computer language of the day, and also contributed to a satellite-launching rocket called Scout (Solid Controlled Orbital Utility Test). She retired from NASA in 1971.




KATHERINE JOHNSON (BORN 1918)

Johnson showed early brilliance in West Virginia schools by being promoted several years ahead of her age, according to NASA. She attended a high school on the campus of West Virginia State College by age 13, and began attending the college at age 18. After graduating with highest honors, she started work as a schoolteacher in 1937. 
Two years later, when the college chose to integrate its graduate schools, Johnson and two male students were offered spots. She quickly enrolled, but left to have children. In 1953, when she was back in the workforce, Johnson joined the West Area Computing section at Langley. 
She began her career working with data from flight tests, but her life quickly changed after the Soviet Union launched the first satellite in 1957. For example, some of her math equations were used in a lecture series compendium called Notes on Space Technology. These lectures were given by engineers that later formed the Space Task Group, NACA's section on space travel. 
For the Mercury missions, Johnson did trajectory analysis for Shepard's Freedom 7 mission in 1961, and (at John Glenn's request) did the same job for his orbital mission in 1962. Despite Glenn's trajectory being planned by computers, Glenn reportedly wanted Johnson herself to run through the equations to make sure they were safe.
"When asked to name her greatest contribution to space exploration, Katherine Johnson talks about the calculations that helped synch Project Apollo's Lunar Lander with the moon-orbiting Command and Service Module," NASA wrote. "She also worked on the space shuttle and the Earth Resources Satellite, and authored or coauthored 26 research reports." 
Johnson retired from NASA In 1986. At age 97, in 2015, she received the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honor in the United States.



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Re: OT - RIP John Glenn
Posted by: HankM ()
Date: March 8, 2017 23:07


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