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"Through his series at International House, Chaiken met famed documentary filmmaker, Albert Maysles (“Gimme Shelter,” “Grey Gardens”), who spoke at a retrospective of his work that Chaiken organized.
Maysles’ production company, Maysles Films, was in the midst of moving from Manhattan to Harlem, and Chaiken soon jumped on board to help with the transition.
“As an independent film company, they were always looking for revenue to make the next film,” Chaiken said. “So I helped them a little with their DVDs that Criterion put out—worked the contracts and stuff like that—but the one thing that I said to Al was, ‘Where are your outtakes to Gimme Shelter?’”
Chaiken plowed into the archives and found 30 hours of Rolling Stones footage that no one had ever seen"
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Father Ted
What's the point of hoarding this classic material if you never plan to release it? Some of these films are now 40 to 50 years old and still languish in a locked filing cabinet.
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LOL - did my post not show up?
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swiss
LOL - did my post not show up?
What post?
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Father Ted
What's the point of hoarding this classic material if you never plan to release it? Some of these films are now 40 to 50 years old and still languish in a locked filing cabinet.
Exactly. I'm sure if you looked at a demographic of who's interested in buying archive material it will generally be fans who have grown up with that band - not today's younger generation. And the longer they leave it the more it becomes a case of diminishing returns.
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What's the point of hoarding this classic material if you never plan to release it? Some of these films are now 40 to 50 years old and still languish in a locked filing cabinet.
Exactly. I'm sure if you looked at a demographic of who's interested in buying archive material it will generally be fans who have grown up with that band - not today's younger generation. And the longer they leave it the more it becomes a case of diminishing returns.
If they don't want to release it, give it to someone who will.
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Father Ted
What's the point of hoarding this classic material if you never plan to release it? Some of these films are now 40 to 50 years old and still languish in a locked filing cabinet.
Exactly. I'm sure if you looked at a demographic of who's interested in buying archive material it will generally be fans who have grown up with that band - not today's younger generation. And the longer they leave it the more it becomes a case of diminishing returns.
If they don't want to release it, give it to someone who will.
I already have shared what is up with this above....
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midimannz
Yeah, what about a whole 1969 concert while I'm still here! If I ever get dementia I'm screwed
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midimannz
Yeah, what about a whole 1969 concert while I'm still here! If I ever get dimentia I'm screwed
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Father Ted
What's the point of hoarding this classic material if you never plan to release it? Some of these films are now 40 to 50 years old and still languish in a locked filing cabinet.
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The Stones have such a wealth of archive material they have the luxury of releasing only that which they are completely comfortable with.
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midimannz
Yeah, what about a whole 1969 concert while I'm still here! If I ever get dimentia I'm screwed
you already are ... it's not dimentia but dementia
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I have a feeling that many classic bands such as Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, The Who and The Stones are now holding on to whatever archive material they have for the barren years ahead when bands cease to be.
The golden years of record sales have long been in decline and to keep interest up for endless re-releases they will need archive material.
Take Led Zeppelin for instance. Jimmy Page could have drawn on so much better material for the latest round of Zepp re-re-re-releases. He has, in the cam complete concerts for Earls Court (two nights), Knebworth (two nights) and Seattle Kingdom 1977 plus better outtakes than the ones offered up on those CDs.
The Beatles are still sitting on hours of footage from Twickenham during the making of Let It Be plus gigs in Japan and other footage from around the world.
The Who also have complete videos from Monterey 67, Woodstock in 69 (admittedly in poor quality), Isle of Wight 69, Holland in 73, Charlton in 74, Hammersmith Odeon Kampuchea gig in 79.
And the Stones still have Paris 76, Knebworth 76, and their pick from many shows since 89 which have all been filmed. There's also hours of unreleased studio outtakes from Between The Buttons, Satanic Majestys, Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile, Goats Head Soup, Black & Blue all the way throguh to the present day.
Unfortunately I think many of us will be lucky to see all of this material released in our lifetimes.
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On today the anniversary of Altamont! December 6 let me give you some info...
I am sure there are many hours of footage that the public has not seen-But the Maysles, cameramen, editors, etc. have seen and probably gone over every inch of film dozens of times. (I thought I saw the Hells Angels being asked up on the stage after a guy jumped the stage and crashed thru a drum kit in some of the footage I saw..but the Maysles said they couldn't find it, when I asked them later)
-The only tour concert the Maysles filmed was Madison Square Garden. (I hired the Maysles the day before the Madison Square Garden show, to only shoot that show!
-They filmed in Muscle Shoals.
-Gimme Shelter was an edited compiling of the Maysles and the other camera people that shot Altamont--footage that they bought.
-I did the deal for a film (original title for Gimme Shelter was Let It Bleed) with the Maysles, two weeks after Altamont
-December 4,1970 a year later was when we did the distribution deal for Gimme Shelter
The documents backing up the facts are in my book--thinking of releasing it on Valentines Day... for the fans.. Out of Our Heads, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles and Me