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Re: My take on the Stones eras
Posted by: RoughJusticeOnYa ()
Date: May 15, 2016 14:28

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golden era. 1968-72
silver era. 1963-67
bronze era. 1973-83

or the brian, mick and ronnie era,s

Well, it remains debatable;
but I can relate to this, in a way.

Re: My take on the Stones eras
Posted by: Olly ()
Date: June 1, 2016 23:02

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Loosely speaking I think the eras look a bit like this:

1. Experimental (1962-68) Formative Stage
-- Significant imitation of influencers (Berry, Waters, Reed, Dylan etc.)
-- Working across numerous styles (blues, R&B, pop, folk, psychedelic)
-- inconsistent or limited signature elements (riff, weave, arrangement, etc)
-- Relative to later work naive, not overtly self-aware or self-referential

2. Classic (1968-72) At their Peak
-- Consistent use of supporting musicians and production (Hopkins, Keys, Miller)
-- Nearly singular focus on core genre or sui generis material (blues-based rock n'roll)
-- Authentic and vibrantly elevated themes and expression
-- Significant consistency of style identifiable by fans and non-fans alike

3. Revisionist(1973-78) Questioning Tradition
-- Playful, sometimes cynical, sometimes tired reinterpretation of style (Silver Train)
-- Increasingly self-reflexive, self-obsessed lyrical focus (StarF*kr)
-- Near exhaustion of classic genres (blues based rock 'n roll) leading to new genres attempted through their own style (reggae, new wave, punk, etc).
-- Potential for vital reinvention through new styles (Some Girls)

4. Baroque (1979-Present) Parody of the Past
-- Exaggerated forms, expression, and staging
-- Self-parody, self-importance, and some self-denigration
-- Nostalgia that combines legitimate feelings of loss, remembrance,and crass commercialism (never-ending tours)
-- Icon status ironically combined with has-been status (Sir Mick)


Interesting perspective, but a little too simplistic.

The Stones have been self-parodic and self-reflexive, to highlight two of the characteristics you mention, for much longer than you suggest.

.....

Olly.

Re: My take on the Stones eras
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: June 1, 2016 23:40

1962-1972 were years of growth and gradually more and more exciting.

Still, it is important to acknowledge that during 1970-1973 heroin raised its
ugly head causing various members of the band, families, friends, crew and studio personnel a certain amount of deep worry and concern.

When Keith and or Bobby Keys walked into a room, a certain tension was often
present. "How straight are they?" "Will we get kicked out of the restaurant?" etc. Real tears were shed and bad dreams were discussed among members of the "Touring Party" in the UK, Europe, the USA etc. Not to mention
the appearance of "new friends" carrying hard drugs.

Keith is intelligent and likable on a good day but I wish there had been one
chapter in his autobiography where he opened up a little more honestly. Perhaps he has with his children. God knows Marlon should be named a saint!

The Stones remain my favorite band and I still appreciate what they have meant to so many, and I treasure the best of their recordings and live performances.

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