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Olly
can the whole period from 1979 until 2016 really come under one era?
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Olly
Interesting observations.
Alimente, are you suggesting the Stones reached perfection in 1978?
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Palace Revolution 2000
I'm still surprised that no one is giving the formative years way more importance,
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I'm still surprised that no one is giving the formative years way more importance, than just "Early Formative" and then right to "Pop Artists".
It is these early years that shape it all; everything that is to come. They are still playing and living off those songs.
learning the Blues, and playing them was one thing. But moving on to Soul, coinciding with the physical move to the USA, soaking up Motown, Stax, meeting the guys, and ALO making them write had to be crucial in their young years.
The 'Pop Artist" era,and the Aftermath/Buttons album,s are results of that.
IMO these groupings make way more sense than dividing up 2003 vs 2013
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Palace Revolution 2000
I'm still surprised that no one is giving the formative years way more importance, than just "Early Formative" and then right to "Pop Artists".
It is these early years that shape it all; everything that is to come. They are still playing and living off those songs.
learning the Blues, and playing them was one thing. But moving on to Soul, coinciding with the physical move to the USA, soaking up Motown, Stax, meeting the guys, and ALO making them write had to be crucial in their young years.
The 'Pop Artist" era,and the Aftermath/Buttons album,s are results of that.
IMO these groupings make way more sense than dividing up 2003 vs 2013
Exactly! Something happened indeed between The Rolling Stones and Out Of Our Heads.
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Palace Revolution 2000
I'm still surprised that no one is giving the formative years way more importance, than just "Early Formative" and then right to "Pop Artists".
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Stoneage
68-72 is it. Everything else is before or after.
1968-1974
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HonkeyTonkFlash
Stoneage - "In a way "Still Life" was the last tour and Start Me Up and Tattoo You their last hit single and album..."
Agree about the tour. As I've said ad nausea, it was the end of that reckless, no safety net era. Though they've toured extensively from 1989 to today, it's never been the same; a slick professional show. However, I don't know if you could really call TY and SMU their last hits. Maybe last huge hits but their albums did well, and at least where I live, the local rock station played a lot of their newer songs right up to Bridges To Babylon. By the time A Bigger Bang came out, classic rock radio was more interested is spinning Brown Sugar for the millionth time.
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Stoneage - "In a way "Still Life" was the last tour and Start Me Up and Tattoo You their last hit single and album..."
Agree about the tour. As I've said ad nausea, it was the end of that reckless, no safety net era. Though they've toured extensively from 1989 to today, it's never been the same; a slick professional show. However, I don't know if you could really call TY and SMU their last hits. Maybe last huge hits but their albums did well, and at least where I live, the local rock station played a lot of their newer songs right up to Bridges To Babylon. By the time A Bigger Bang came out, classic rock radio was more interested is spinning Brown Sugar for the millionth time.
Just look at their setlists. Start Me Up is the youngest "warhorse" = being played at every show. And it's not even an all-new 1981 composition... Nothing afterwards, be it Undercover Of The Night, Harlem Shuffle, Mixed Emotions, Love Is Strong, Anybody Seen My Baby or Streets Of Love as "hit singles" from their post-Tattoo You albums comes even close, not to even speak of Don't Stop or Doom And Gloom, which had left the building too recently. It just shows how the band members themselves see these things IMHO.
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MileHigh
Life is simply too short, you realize that as the clock ticks and there is more behind than ahead.
A supermodel at 24 is no longer a supermodel at 39. Same goes for musical artists and same goes for the Stones, no matter how much you hear, "Looking and playing as if they were 10 (20?) years younger." The "sweet spot" is too damn short.
At least the Stones have grown older pretty gracefully. I feel sorry for some artists where their image is locked into their youth. What does Joan Jet mean to me? Joan Jet is forever between 18 and 21 and "cannot age." A 50-year-old Joan Jet doesn't even make sense.
So by definition, 1981 was the "last hurrah" in many ways. Certainly it was the last hit album and the last big hit single. I remember being very happy and pleasantly surprised that "the Stones came back big" and they were in the contemporary consciousness.
What they are doing now is not "an amazing rock show experience with the Rolling Stones" like it would have been in 1973. But they do get my respect for what they are doing now. However, they are on the edge of losing it in the sense that they simply have to stop and it has to be quite soon. The "Last Hurrah Guitar Stones" era is ending soon and the "Twilight Years Retirement/Vault Stones" era will begin.
Nobody should complain when they stop. I view everything after 2003 as cream.
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MileHigh
Life is simply too short, you realize that as the clock ticks and there is more behind than ahead.
A supermodel at 24 is no longer a supermodel at 39. Same goes for musical artists and same goes for the Stones, no matter how much you hear, "Looking and playing as if they were 10 (20?) years younger." The "sweet spot" is too damn short.
At least the Stones have grown older pretty gracefully. I feel sorry for some artists where their image is locked into their youth. What does Joan Jet mean to me? Joan Jet is forever between 18 and 21 and "cannot age." A 50-year-old Joan Jet doesn't even make sense.
So by definition, 1981 was the "last hurrah" in many ways. Certainly it was the last hit album and the last big hit single. I remember being very happy and pleasantly surprised that "the Stones came back big" and they were in the contemporary consciousness.
What they are doing now is not "an amazing rock show experience with the Rolling Stones" like it would have been in 1973. But they do get my respect for what they are doing now. However, they are on the edge of losing it in the sense that they simply have to stop and it has to be quite soon. The "Last Hurrah Guitar Stones" era is ending soon and the "Twilight Years Retirement/Vault Stones" era will begin.
Nobody should complain when they stop. I view everything after 2003 as cream.
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MileHigh
Life is simply too short, you realize that as the clock ticks and there is more behind than ahead.
A supermodel at 24 is no longer a supermodel at 39.
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MileHigh
Life is simply too short, you realize that as the clock ticks and there is more behind than ahead.
A supermodel at 24 is no longer a supermodel at 39.
How about at 29 (on the left) and 62 (on the right)?
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So by definition, 1981 was the "last hurrah" in many ways. Certainly it was the last hit album and the last big hit single. I remember being very happy and pleasantly surprised that "the Stones came back big" and they were in the contemporary consciousness.
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MileHigh
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So by definition, 1981 was the "last hurrah" in many ways. Certainly it was the last hit album and the last big hit single. I remember being very happy and pleasantly surprised that "the Stones came back big" and they were in the contemporary consciousness.
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My experience, as one apparently belonging to a minority here, was quite different. Instead of your presented point of view, the album you referred to, was to me the sad moment, when all seemed to be over. And the first of the two concerts I was present at in 1982, was an unmotivated affair. However, the second concert on the following day was completely different, and I regained my hopes. Hopes, which were fulfilled, or rather surpassed, with the arrival of UNDERCOVER, their latest really great album.
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Hopes, which were fulfilled, or rather surpassed, with the arrival of UNDERCOVER, their latest really great album.
Important word (and correct, too)