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When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: Tops ()
Date: December 29, 2015 00:56

Midnight Rambler (GYYYO)
Brown Sugar (Brussels)
@#$%& (LYL)
Time is on my side (Hampton 81)
Just My Imagination (Hampton 81)

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Date: December 29, 2015 01:02

With a live band like the Stones there will always be lots of songs that are better than the studio versions:

Star Star (LYL and Live In Texas)
Let's Spend The Night Together (Hampton)
Shattered (Hampton)
Mona (Camden)
Live With Me (Roundhouse and Ya-Ya's)
Happy (LYL)
Around And Around (LYL)
Cracking Up (LYL)
Little Red Rooster (LYL)
Dancing With Mr. D (Brussels)
Imagination (Leeds, Live In Texas and Hampton)

However, they were/are never able to improve their classics live, imo:

JJF
Satisfaction
Gimmie Shelter
YCAGWYW
GOOMC
Brown Sugar
Stray Cat Blues
Miss You
She's So Cold
Start Me Up
Moonlight Mile
Dead Flowers
Angie
Wild Horses
Sympathy For The Devil
Tumbling Dice
Honky Tonk Women
Under My Thumb
The Last Time
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Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: December 29, 2015 02:17

I think there might only be two blatant examples as far as I'm concerned. Generally speaking I prefer the studio takes as the perfect example of a song. The two exceptions are:


Midnight Rambler and Just My Imagination

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: TheBlockbuster ()
Date: December 29, 2015 03:45

Honky Tonk Women (Love You Live)
Hot Stuff (Love You Live)
Just My Imagination (Still Life)
Respectable (No Security)
Beast Of Burden (Live Licks)

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: December 29, 2015 03:48

Love In Vain

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: December 29, 2015 04:43

You Got Me Rockin' - No Security
Time Is On My Side - Still Life
Ruby Tuesday - Flashpoint
If You Can't Rock Me - Live Licks
Live With Me - Shine A Light

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: winter ()
Date: December 29, 2015 05:41

Midnight Rambler - Ya-Ya's
Around and Around - Love You Live
Time Is On My Side - Still Life
Saint of Me - No Security
Out of Control - No Security

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: goinhome ()
Date: December 29, 2015 06:00

Some of my favorite Live Cuts that I may pick over the studio versions...

Sympathy - Ya Ya's (KR and MT Kill those solos)
SFM - Brussels Affair Official Release
Stray Cat Blues - Ya Ya's
Midnight Rambler - Ya Ya's (Love '72 versions 2, but this one's embedded for life)
Fingerprint File - LA '75 Official Release (Great Wyman Bass)

SMU from Flashpoint or Tokyo '90 Boots may get honorable mention, but it may be more from fond, faded memories of the spectacle of that opener with Continental Drift / Explosion / Keith...



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Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: December 29, 2015 06:00

Rambler (all)
Imagination (all)
Let's spend the night together (81)
Around and around (lyl)
Love in vain (69)

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: Jimmer ()
Date: December 29, 2015 08:01

Street Fighting Man (Ya Yas, Stripped, All)
Midnight Rambler (Brussels, All)
Dancing with Mr. D. (Brussels)
Route 66 (December's Children)
Just My Imagination (Still Life)
Angie (Brussels)

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: December 29, 2015 08:36

Every song from Altamont...

2 1 2 0

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: December 29, 2015 09:31

Just My Imagination - Still Life
Time Is On My Side - Still Life/ Hampton
Route 66 - Camden
Love In Vain - Ya Ya's
Parachute Woman - Circus

honorable mentions:
Factory Girl - various singles from Flashpoint
Waiting On A Friend - Hampton
Mona - Camden
Carol - Ya Ya's

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: saltoftheearth ()
Date: December 29, 2015 10:13

Quote
winter
Around and Around - Love You Live

No! I miss Ian Stewart's boogie piano on that track. It's the perfect studio Version which can't be improved. Of course, the song is fun to hear in concert but it can't match the original.

IMO the studio Version of Love in vain is rather stiff and boring (as is Midnight rambler). Both songs came to life on stage, and I would rate the GYYO Version (no overdubs!) and the Leeds 1971 recording as definitive. There were great Versions on the 1972 tour too, though.

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: LieB ()
Date: December 29, 2015 11:01

Love In Vain
Midnight Rambler
Live With Me
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo
I'm Free
Angie

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Date: December 29, 2015 11:11

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Turner68
Rambler (all)
Imagination (all)
Let's spend the night together (81)
Around and around (lyl)
Love in vain (69)

You're saying that the Brixton 95 version of MR is better than the studio version? winking smiley

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: flairville ()
Date: December 29, 2015 11:16

Let It Bleed- Hampton.
Beast Of Burden- Texas 78.

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: KeithNacho ()
Date: December 29, 2015 11:40

Quote
goinhome
Some of my favorite Live Cuts that I may pick over the studio versions...

Sympathy - Ya Ya's (KR and MT Kill those solos)
SFM - Brussels Affair Official Release
Stray Cat Blues - Ya Ya's
Midnight Rambler - Ya Ya's (Love '72 versions 2, but this one's embedded for life)
Fingerprint File - LA '75 Official Release (Great Wyman Bass)

SMU from Flashpoint or Tokyo '90 Boots may get honorable mention, but it may be more from fond, faded memories of the spectacle of that opener with Continental Drift / Explosion / Keith...

The bass on these live song is played by Mr Wood. Both guitars are played by MJ and KR, and Bill played synthesizer

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Date: December 29, 2015 11:43

Quote
KeithNacho
Quote
goinhome
Some of my favorite Live Cuts that I may pick over the studio versions...

Sympathy - Ya Ya's (KR and MT Kill those solos)
SFM - Brussels Affair Official Release
Stray Cat Blues - Ya Ya's
Midnight Rambler - Ya Ya's (Love '72 versions 2, but this one's embedded for life)
Fingerprint File - LA '75 Official Release (Great Wyman Bass)

SMU from Flashpoint or Tokyo '90 Boots may get honorable mention, but it may be more from fond, faded memories of the spectacle of that opener with Continental Drift / Explosion / Keith...

The bass on these live song is played by Mr Wood. Both guitars are played by MJ and KR, and Bill played synthesizer

And dancing... winking smiley

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: December 29, 2015 13:31

In general, I always prefer studio versions, and in fact there are not a lot of live albums I listen to. Anyway, my 5 cnts:

Midnight Rambler (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out or Brussels)
Little Queenie (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out)
Love in Vain (Get Yer Ya's Out)
Going to a Go-Go (Still Life)
Time Is On My Side (Still Life)

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: December 29, 2015 13:44

Quote
matxil
In general, I always prefer studio versions, and in fact there are not a lot of live albums I listen to. Anyway, my 5 cnts:

Midnight Rambler (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out or Brussels)
Little Queenie (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out)
Love in Vain (Get Yer Ya's Out)
Going to a Go-Go (Still Life)
Time Is On My Side (Still Life)

Queenie is a Live-killer but which studio-album is it on?

2 1 2 0

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Date: December 29, 2015 13:51

Quote
Come On
Quote
matxil
In general, I always prefer studio versions, and in fact there are not a lot of live albums I listen to. Anyway, my 5 cnts:

Midnight Rambler (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out or Brussels)
Little Queenie (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out)
Love in Vain (Get Yer Ya's Out)
Going to a Go-Go (Still Life)
Time Is On My Side (Still Life)

Queenie is a Live-killer but which studio-album is it on?

The Little Boy Blue And The Blue Boys tape:

[www.youtube.com]




Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: December 29, 2015 13:56

Quote
Come On
Quote
matxil
In general, I always prefer studio versions, and in fact there are not a lot of live albums I listen to. Anyway, my 5 cnts:

Midnight Rambler (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out or Brussels)
Little Queenie (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out)
Love in Vain (Get Yer Ya's Out)
Going to a Go-Go (Still Life)
Time Is On My Side (Still Life)

Queenie is a Live-killer but which studio-album is it on?

Yes, I wasn't sure whether my choices would count. I only know the Chuck Berry studio version. I also don't know if there's any Stones studio version of Going To A Go-Go?

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Date: December 29, 2015 13:58

No, there isn't.

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: December 29, 2015 14:03

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Come On
Quote
matxil
In general, I always prefer studio versions, and in fact there are not a lot of live albums I listen to. Anyway, my 5 cnts:

Midnight Rambler (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out or Brussels)
Little Queenie (Get Yer Ya Ya's Out)
Love in Vain (Get Yer Ya's Out)
Going to a Go-Go (Still Life)
Time Is On My Side (Still Life)

Queenie is a Live-killer but which studio-album is it on?

The Little Boy Blue And The Blue Boys tape:

[www.youtube.com]



Wow, that's cool. Thanks for posting!

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: December 29, 2015 15:20

Quote
saltoftheearth
Quote
winter
Around and Around - Love You Live

No! I miss Ian Stewart's boogie piano on that track. It's the perfect studio Version which can't be improved. Of course, the song is fun to hear in concert but it can't match the original.

IMO the studio Version of Love in vain is rather stiff and boring (as is Midnight rambler). Both songs came to life on stage, and I would rate the GYYO Version (no overdubs!) and the Leeds 1971 recording as definitive. There were great Versions on the 1972 tour too, though.

Absolutely agree with you!

The studio Around And Around is so perfect that any other version can only be different, but not better. While the mid-seventies live versions (Knebworth and El Mocambo) match, but do not surpass the 60's live version, I must say that I was pretty disappointed that they weren't even able to do this song justice in 2012 when it was more or less a mess.

Concerning Love In Vain and Midnight Rambler - yes, absolutely, those were two instances of songs that really came to life on stage compared to their rather pale studio counterparts.

Oh, and while the studio When The Whip Comes Down is great as it is, I think the 1978 (Detroit?) live version that can be found on Sucking In The 70's rocks even more. Four minutes of sheer madness, especially in the guitar department!



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Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Date: December 29, 2015 15:21

<I was pretty disappointed that they weren't even able to do the song justice in 2012 when it was more or less a mess.>

How was it a mess? I loved that version.

I totally agree about Whip and Detroit (indeed), though!

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: December 29, 2015 15:34

Quote
DandelionPowderman
<I was pretty disappointed that they weren't even able to do the song justice in 2012 when it was more or less a mess.>

How was it a mess? I loved that version.

I totally agree about Whip and Detroit (indeed), though!

Of course it's all a matter of personal taste, but imho in 2012 Around And Around did not rock, not to even speak of roll... It sounded like a tentative rehearsal, not a fully-fledged stage performance. And there was a lack of coordination between the guitars.

Dandy, btw, you mentioned Cracking Up earlier in this thread. What we have is a BBC recording (more or less live in the studio), but no officially released fully produced studio recording. Don't want to sound teacherous, but...

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: December 29, 2015 15:35

Midnight Rambler (especially from the 69-73 tours)
Sympathy for the Devil 69
Love in Vain (69-78)
Saint of Me
No Control
I'm Free
Dancing with Mr. D (73 live versions smoke!)
Street Fighting Man (69-73)



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Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Date: December 29, 2015 16:09

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alimente
Quote
DandelionPowderman
<I was pretty disappointed that they weren't even able to do the song justice in 2012 when it was more or less a mess.>

How was it a mess? I loved that version.

I totally agree about Whip and Detroit (indeed), though!

Of course it's all a matter of personal taste, but imho in 2012 Around And Around did not rock, not to even speak of roll... It sounded like a tentative rehearsal, not a fully-fledged stage performance. And there was a lack of coordination between the guitars.

Dandy, btw, you mentioned Cracking Up earlier in this thread. What we have is a BBC recording (more or less live in the studio), but no officially released fully produced studio recording. Don't want to sound teacherous, but...

That's correct. It was the closest we got to a studio version, so I included it smiling smiley

Re: When a live version (officially released) beats the original - your 5 picks!
Posted by: pepganzo ()
Date: December 29, 2015 18:03

The Rolling Stones

SFTD (Live from Get Yer Ya Ya's Out, 1970)
Dancing with Mr D (Live from Bruxelles)
Tumbling Dice (Live from LA Friday, 1975)
Little Red Rooster (Live from Love you Live, 1977)
Under My Thumb (Live from Hampton, 1981)


Non Stones

Little Feat - Sailin' Shoes/Day or night (Live from Waiting for Columbus, 1978)
Aerosmith - Love in an elevator (Live from You Gotta Move, 2004)
Traffic - Tragic Magic (Live from On the road, 1973)
Lou Reed - Sweet Jane (Live from RN'R Animal, 1974)
Allman Brothers Band - Trouble no More (Live from Fillmore East, 1971)



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