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Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: HighwireC ()
Date: November 13, 2015 13:39

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I'd personally be interested in the Stones doing their own "tribute album."
INXS did something similar in 2011 with Original Sin. They re-recorded their tracks with different singers.

Keith always claims their songs are "babies" once they record them. They then see how the songs "grow up" on tour. I don't want tribute singers. I want the band to re-cut some classic tracks.
Instead of another forgettable album of the odd decent track- I'd like to see how they'd record HTW, Start Me Up, JJF- anything to see how these tracks have evolved.
It'd certainly be better than 60 licks.
Anybody remember Stripped? I still play it often.
Thoughts?
That's a great idea!

Love that idea.

Really? An entire album of re-recorded old hits? That taking expoiting nostalgia/artistic laziness to a whole new level.




Sticky Fingers Live ..........

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: MacLaurens ()
Date: November 13, 2015 14:10

A also think that is a cool idea to re-record old songs. I have thought about that for a long time actually. KISS made a similar thing with their Sonic Boom record in 2009. I would love to hear how they would record JJF, Sympathy, Gimme Shelter, Paint it Black, SFM, etc. - songs that have they have developed and changed a lot during the years, just like dennycranium says.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GetYerAngie ()
Date: November 13, 2015 14:12

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I'd personally be interested in the Stones doing their own "tribute album."
INXS did something similar in 2011 with Original Sin. They re-recorded their tracks with different singers.

Keith always claims their songs are "babies" once they record them. They then see how the songs "grow up" on tour. I don't want tribute singers. I want the band to re-cut some classic tracks.
Instead of another forgettable album of the odd decent track- I'd like to see how they'd record HTW, Start Me Up, JJF- anything to see how these tracks have evolved.
It'd certainly be better than 60 licks.
Anybody remember Stripped? I still play it often.
Thoughts?
That's a great idea!

Love that idea.

Really? An entire album of re-recorded old hits? That taking expoiting nostalgia/artistic laziness to a whole new level.




Sticky Fingers Live ..........

but that's live

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: mr edward ()
Date: November 13, 2015 14:20

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dennycranium
I'd personally be interested in the Stones doing their own "tribute album."
INXS did something similar in 2011 with Original Sin. They re-recorded their tracks with different singers.

Keith always claims their songs are "babies" once they record them. They then see how the songs "grow up" on tour. I don't want tribute singers. I want the band to re-cut some classic tracks.
Instead of another forgettable album of the odd decent track- I'd like to see how they'd record HTW, Start Me Up, JJF- anything to see how these tracks have evolved.
It'd certainly be better than 60 licks.
Anybody remember Stripped? I still play it often.
Thoughts?
That's a great idea!

Love that idea.

Really? An entire album of re-recorded old hits? That taking expoiting nostalgia/artistic laziness to a whole new level.




Sticky Fingers Live ..........

but that's live

Exactly.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: November 13, 2015 15:06

I would take a batch of newly-composed, collaborative efforts over this any day, but a re-recording of their U.K. debut LP would bmise good fun, I think. If they were to ever rework any old studio-cuts or so-called 'classics', a bluesy, rhythm-and-blues effort would be more enticing for me than, say, 'Paint It, Black 2015' These mid-to-late 60's tracks are too ingrained on our consciousness to work. If they covered their earliest-recorded material, it could be a success of sorts. Essentially, they're the standard-fare of the day and open to re-investigation.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:00

Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: mailexile67 ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:03

+1 thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GetYerAngie ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:05

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Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

Agree!

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:10

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Even Dirty Work had a particular feel.

Ha ha ha ha! Not a good one!!!

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:12

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Nice write-up Rocky (and I'd never heard of the 2001 concepts being thrown around we were in the internet age though! I remember everyone on RO being quite surprised by the sudden appearance of Goddess), you forgot the 2002 Paris Sessions though and that's another possible scenario for the likely upcoming sessions. They spend time in the studio, record an album's worth of decent songs...and don't release it but just pick 4 for a compilation album. Well this won't happen this time as they have no "landmark" to celebrate in 2016 but whatever they do might stay in the can.

I'm going to guess that is precisely why Rocky left that one out: it didn't amount to anything.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:14

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I might have missed some news but isn't this all just a guess so far in
that the band may just record a couple of new tunes and the rest will
merly be leftovers from previous sessions?

Sounds like it's your guess and it's now thrown in with the rest of the guesses.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:18

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I'd personally be interested in the Stones doing their own "tribute album."
INXS did something similar in 2011 with Original Sin. They re-recorded their tracks with different singers.

Keith always claims their songs are "babies" once they record them. They then see how the songs "grow up" on tour. I don't want tribute singers. I want the band to re-cut some classic tracks.
Instead of another forgettable album of the odd decent track- I'd like to see how they'd record HTW, Start Me Up, JJF- anything to see how these tracks have evolved.
It'd certainly be better than 60 licks.
Anybody remember Stripped? I still play it often.
Thoughts?
That's a great idea!

Ouch.

That's a horrible idea. Not only have they been imitating themselves over the past 5 albums, why suggest that they devolve even further in the "being a band" concept and have them hurdle over The Beach Boys by recording their own songs again?

Yes, let's not bother with writing new material and still be "relevant", let's cover ourselves!

Hell no.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:23

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dennycranium
I'd personally be interested in the Stones doing their own "tribute album."
INXS did something similar in 2011 with Original Sin. They re-recorded their tracks with different singers.

Keith always claims their songs are "babies" once they record them. They then see how the songs "grow up" on tour. I don't want tribute singers. I want the band to re-cut some classic tracks.
Instead of another forgettable album of the odd decent track- I'd like to see how they'd record HTW, Start Me Up, JJF- anything to see how these tracks have evolved.
It'd certainly be better than 60 licks.
Anybody remember Stripped? I still play it often.
Thoughts?

Absolute rubbish and bad idea.
Jeroen

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:32

You say this first...

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Dont Stop, Keys To Your Love, Stealing My Heart & Losing my touch are songs that are very enjoyable. If they had completet a full album back then, it would have been a very very good Stones-album.

... and then you say this?

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Regarding Voodoo-Lounge, I know these famous box-sets like "Stew" and "Brew" etc. Listened to it only once. Where are "great songs, better than on the album" on these bootlegs to find? Nowhere. It´s a bunch of sketches, halfbaked rhythmn tracks and nothing more. There is not one single good song to find. They released the best of what they had back then (and a little more). The VL-outtakes are just awful, except Honest Man.

Clearly you haven't listened to the tracks enough or at all, because you said you listened to "it" only once and out of all of it Honest Man, which is just Mick playing Sweet Thing really fast and doing his greatest Kenny Loggins impersonation, is the one that is not awful? Coming from someone that uses DIRTY WORK and the 4 LICKS tracks as the bar of excellence it's no wonder you can't hear anything in the VOODOO leftovers.

Those VOODOO leftovers are, just like the SOME GIRLS leftovers, unedited. They're also, like a lot of the SOME GIRLS leftovers, not finished.

Here is one example of something that, had they finished it, would've been a great track on VOODOO, just as with leftovers from SOME GIRLS.

It's Funny
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Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:33

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MingSubu
Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

So I take it you didn't like the re-recording of Sticky Fingers live at the Fonda...

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:35

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A also think that is a cool idea to re-record old songs. I have thought about that for a long time actually. KISS made a similar thing with their Sonic Boom record in 2009. I would love to hear how they would record JJF, Sympathy, Gimme Shelter, Paint it Black, SFM, etc. - songs that have they have developed and changed a lot during the years, just like dennycranium says.


Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:37

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Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

So I take it you didn't like the re-recording of Sticky Fingers live at the Fonda...

But... they never had STICKY FINGERS LIVE to begin with! How can they re-record STICKY FINGERS LIVE 1 and release STICKY FINGERS LIVE 2 if they didn't have 1?

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:41

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Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

So I take it you didn't like the re-recording of Sticky Fingers live at the Fonda...

That was a live album. I wouldn't mind them doing that for previous albums.



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Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:43

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Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

thumbs up

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: November 13, 2015 16:44

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Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

smileys with beersmoking smileyhot smileysmileys with beer
One Love !!
jeroen

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: November 13, 2015 17:25

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Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

So I take it you didn't like the re-recording of Sticky Fingers live at the Fonda...

That was a live album. I wouldn't mind them doing that for previous albums.

I agree that re-recording any of their albums LIVE wouldn't be bad - even if their playing isn't up to snuff.
More 'unplugged' or 'stripped' type stuff could be great.

But to re-record anything in the studio would be ridiculous for a variety of reasons imo.
Might as well throw in the towel and announce to the world "we got nothing".
And can't imagine them investing the time and energy to do that, it will never happen.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: November 13, 2015 17:30

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Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

So I take it you didn't like the re-recording of Sticky Fingers live at the Fonda...

That was a live album. I wouldn't mind them doing that for previous albums.

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Might as well throw in the towel and announce to the world "we got nothing".
...

This is how i interpreted 40 licks and Grrr.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 13, 2015 17:36

STRIPPED was nice because they were taking the essence of the songs and playing with it, recording them in a mild manner. They slowed down and funked up Not Fade Away like the way they were playing it on the tour, which is far better than their original recording back in 1964. Some tracks were cleaned up and given a bit more of a sheen, like Love In Vain or, for some reason, the dismal I'm Free and oddly flat Wild Horses.

Some of the tracks that didn't make the release are interesting. I suppose that's the purpose of the whole thing. Memory Motel turned out pretty good.

LSTNT
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No Expectations
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Memory Motel
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Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: RoughJusticeOnYa ()
Date: November 13, 2015 17:37

STRIPPED was a different concept - it was partly 'unplugged' (semi-/acoustic) studio work (remember this was the "MTV Unplugged" area in full rage), partly live club show (Paradiso, Brixton Academy).

It wan nót 'just' a re-recording of old hits/ forgotten songs/ complete or chunks of albums...

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: November 13, 2015 17:48

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Re-recording any of their albums would be @#$%& ridiculous.

New material please.

So I take it you didn't like the re-recording of Sticky Fingers live at the Fonda...

That was a live album. I wouldn't mind them doing that for previous albums.

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Might as well throw in the towel and announce to the world "we got nothing".
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This is how i interpreted 40 licks and Grrr.

Yes kind of true I suppose.
And to avoid confusion by the way you took that one sentence out of context from my original post... smiling smiley
I did agree that that re-recording/re-working any of their studio albums LIVE wouldn't be a bad idea ('stripped' or 'unplugged'), and I wouldn't really consider that 'throwing in the towel" so to speak.
Might show a lack of creativity in the songwriting department, but in a live setting might be somewhat enjoyable - again, even if the playing isn't up to snuff compared with original recordings.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......



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Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: MacLaurens ()
Date: November 13, 2015 22:39

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A also think that is a cool idea to re-record old songs. I have thought about that for a long time actually. KISS made a similar thing with their Sonic Boom record in 2009. I would love to hear how they would record JJF, Sympathy, Gimme Shelter, Paint it Black, SFM, etc. - songs that have they have developed and changed a lot during the years, just like dennycranium says.


I don't how you feel about it, but as far as I know the majority of the songs on Stripped are recorded live... I want a studio album.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: November 13, 2015 22:56

just randomly pick out a dozen classical blues songs, get in the studio, record them and put them out on a record! Where's the problem?
Bob Dylan's coving Sinatra with marvelous results (you have to see/hear him sing that stuff live)

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: Hound Dog ()
Date: November 13, 2015 23:10

If after 10 years all they came out with was an album of old songs re-recorded it would be embarrassing.

Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: November 13, 2015 23:19

Yes indeed pointless and embarrassing.
Leave that kind of stunt to bands like INXS -I think they even had a contest and the winning grand prize was to become the band's lead singer?

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......



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Re: Ronnie: Studio in December..
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: November 13, 2015 23:29

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If after 10 years all they came out with was an album of old songs re-recorded it would be embarrassing.

this is what the fonda theater album was?

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