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I didn't write it - just quoted and laughed at it.
But I must ask: what Stones music from mid to late 70s has girly sounding vocals (i.e. high-pitched squeaks and squeals ala Jack White)?
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Don't think Jack White will be any good.
Just a hyped musician that hasn't done any special lately....
Would like to know what he has done lately as a producer that is so excellent.....
Easy there Cooltoplady, that's just his style and it's original. Better that Mick's barking period and some of his more affected singing, imo. Fool to cry is a girly voice and I bet you like that one. lol
Besides, producer doesn't mean his going to play and sing on the record. My quick litmus test for a producer is the drum sound, I thought Jack did a pretty good job on the Blunderbuss record.
I realize you were replying to Cooltoplady, but as for 'singing' goes, I'd rather hear Mick bark than Jack Whine...
Mick singing falsetto is a talent, whereas J.White squeaking is a handicap.
With that said, Fool to Cry is one of my least favorite Stones tunes, and perhaps Mick's worst use of the falsetto technique imo.
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That's not a falsetto. He has the voice of a woman.
yeah he does sound like Mickey! Listen to this. Same voice!!
I must have misinterpreted Rip This' comment earlier, as I thought he was referring to Mick's falsetto...
Surely he can't be saying Jack White sings in falsetto - showing his strength and range of talent?!!!
I think it's more due to his limitations, and comes across as a freakish novelty.
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Just seeing if you guys were paying attention. I could do without Mick's falsetto and the Bee Gee's too. Aaron Neville's works for me though. Go figure.
I always loved how Chris Whitley could use falsetto as a tool in his singing. Here is an example. That whole Living With The Law record was fantastic, imo
[www.youtube.com]
I recall Mick saying he got the technique and inspiration from one particular singer, maybe it was Eddie Kendricks?
And I agree with KRiffhard that Jack White did a great job on Loretta Lynn's record. Some people just have a talent for bringing out the best in people and it has little to do with their ability to sing or play guitar. People suggesting that he couldn't do well with the Stones based on that are obviously missing the point, imo.
Ok Rockee tell me which mic you would use for Charlie's kick drum and which one for snare, if you can answer I will cast my vote for you! I think you just might be able to pick out the good songs from the bad! lol
And Hairball are you suggesting Mick and Keith are harder to work with than Loretta Lynn?
Everything about this statement is so . . wrong . . in so many ways . . .
OK, moving on.
Not being familiar with Loretta Lynn's attitude (are you saying she's a big bad meanie?),
I was just making the assumption that two giant egos would be more difficult to deal with than one.
Besides, Jack White may have sweet talked Loretta with his 'girly voice'.
As for any new potential producer, and someone who has serious Stones cred - I vote for Rockman!
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OK , How does Executive Production Assistant Sound? I don't think Charlie concerns himself much with those kind of technical details in the studio, here's a guy who doesn't even tune his drums. lol
No I don't know anything about Loretta Lynn's attitude, she's probably a total sweetheart.
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Date: November 27, 2015 21:33
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I do not see any producer with a big set telling the Glimmer Twins aka Mick Jagger or Keith Richards what to do much less the Glimmer Twins actually listening or putting up with that at all .Makes me laugh about Jack White who i actually like as a artist but telling the Stones how to make a album is gut splitting funny to me .Do i think the Glimmers have a new album coming out ? no of course not BUT if they wanted to they should ring up Chris Kimsey for his production skills .That is my two cents worth today !!!!!!!
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Date: November 28, 2015 00:43
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Do you prefer Don Was?!
jack white production is sub par. Nothing special at all. I asked earlier one good thing that he has done as far as production and people can't give me an answer to why. His song writing is childish and his vocals are girly sounding. yeah crappy producer.
Good points. I agree.
Yes completely agree.
I liked a few early White Stripes tunes for what they were, but they don't have very much in common with anything Stones related imo.
"His song writing is childish and his vocals are girly sounding".
Hahahaha
i take it your' not a fan of mid to late 70s stones music? ;-)
I didn't write it - just quoted and laughed at it.
But I must ask: what Stones music from mid to late 70s has girly sounding vocals (i.e. high-pitched squeaks and squeals ala Jack White)?
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Date: November 28, 2015 00:48
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i wish this thread would go away
Do you prefer Don Was?!
jack white production is sub par. Nothing special at all. I asked earlier one good thing that he has done as far as production and people can't give me an answer to why. His song writing is childish and his vocals are girly sounding. yeah crappy producer.
Good points. I agree.
Yes completely agree.
I liked a few early White Stripes tunes for what they were, but they don't have very much in common with anything Stones related imo.
"His song writing is childish and his vocals are girly sounding".
Hahahaha
i take it your' not a fan of mid to late 70s stones music? ;-)
I didn't write it - just quoted and laughed at it.
But I must ask: what Stones music from mid to late 70s has girly sounding vocals (i.e. high-pitched squeaks and squeals ala Jack White)?
Don't think Jack White will be any good.
Just a hyped musician that hasn't done any special lately....
Would like to know what he has done lately as a producer that is so excellent.....
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
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Date: November 28, 2015 01:39
A key role for any Stones producer will be to act as a go-between for Jagger and Richards. That role requires tact, diplomacy and a thick skin. If White's recent petty whining about Dan Auerbach is any indication, he's not up to the task.
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Date: November 28, 2015 01:56
Bring on Jack Douglas!
Although his credits are drool-worthy by any stretch, the producer does admit that a few choice acts have eluded him, chief among them The Rolling Stones.
"I know all of the guys, Mick is a friend, and I’ve worked with Ronnie Wood," Douglas says.
"There was a chance to get in there, but that’s when they started working with Don Was – and he does a great job with them, so there’s no reason to try to upset that cart."
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Although his credits are drool-worthy by any stretch, the producer does admit that a few choice acts have eluded him, chief among them The Rolling Stones.
"I know all of the guys, Mick is a friend, and I’ve worked with Ronnie Wood," Douglas says.
"There was a chance to get in there, but that’s when they started working with Don Was – and he does a great job with them, so there’s no reason to try to upset that cart."
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
Cooltoplady
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Date: November 28, 2015 03:48
Yes he does have a girly voice. He not even qualified to change to be in the same room with them.
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Naturalust
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Date: November 28, 2015 04:22
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Yes he does have a girly voice. He not even qualified to change to be in the same room with them.
Easy there Cooltoplady, that's just his style and it's original. Better that Mick's barking period and some of his more affected singing, imo. Fool to cry is a girly voice and I bet you like that one. lol
Besides, producer doesn't mean his going to play and sing on the record. My quick litmus test for a producer is the drum sound, I thought Jack did a pretty good job on the Blunderbuss record.
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Date: November 28, 2015 04:58
there is nothing "girly" about a falsetto...that's a wrong statement on so many levels...in and of itself...but to the point...a falsetto...it has more to do with a singers strength of range and talent...
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Hairball
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Date: November 28, 2015 04:59
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Better that Mick's barking period and some of his more affected singing, imo. Fool to cry is a girly voice and I bet you like that one.
I realize you were replying to Cooltoplady, but as for 'singing' goes, I'd rather hear Mick bark than Jack Whine...
Mick singing falsetto is a talent, whereas J.White squeaking is a handicap.
With that said, Fool to Cry is one of my least favorite Stones tunes, and perhaps Mick's worst use of the falsetto technique imo.
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Date: November 28, 2015 05:52
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there is nothing "girly" about a falsetto...that's a wrong statement on so many levels...in and of itself...but to the point...a falsetto...it has more to do with a singers strength of range and talent...
That's not a falsetto. He has the voice of a woman.
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Date: November 28, 2015 05:56
Yeah his women voice matches that white pan makeup he wares. He doesn't sing in falsetto he just has a girly voice.
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Cooltoplady
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Date: November 28, 2015 06:00
When I first heard this song I thought it was Mickey Mouse singing. Can you imagine this guy telling the Stones what to do?
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Date: November 28, 2015 06:04
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When I first heard this song I thought it was Mickey Mouse singing. Can you imagine this guy telling the Stones what to do?
yeah he does sound like Mickey! Listen to this. Same voice!!
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Date: November 28, 2015 06:45
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there is nothing "girly" about a falsetto...that's a wrong statement on so many levels...in and of itself...but to the point...a falsetto...it has more to do with a singers strength of range and talent...
That's not a falsetto. He has the voice of a woman.
I must have misinterpreted Rip This' comment earlier, as I thought he was referring to Mick's falsetto...
Surely he can't be saying Jack White sings in falsetto - showing his strength and range of talent?!!!
I think it's more due to his limitations, and comes across as a freakish novelty.
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Date: November 28, 2015 07:18
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there is nothing "girly" about a falsetto...that's a wrong statement on so many levels...in and of itself...but to the point...a falsetto...it has more to do with a singers strength of range and talent...
Just seeing if you guys were paying attention. I could do without Mick's falsetto and the Bee Gee's too. Aaron Neville's works for me though. Go figure.
I always loved how Chris Whitley could use falsetto as a tool in his singing. Here is an example. That whole Living With The Law record was fantastic, imo
[www.youtube.com]
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Hairball
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Date: November 28, 2015 07:36
Great falsetto singers:
Curtis Mayfield
Smokey Robinson
Marvin Gaye
Al Green
Eddie Kendricks
Mick is alright on Worried About You and great on Heaven, but horrible on Emtional Rescue and Fool to Cry.
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Curtis Mayfield
Smokey Robinson
Marvin Gaye
Al Green
Eddie Kendricks
Mick is alright on Worried About You and great on Heaven, but horrible on Emtional Rescue and Fool to Cry.
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Date: November 28, 2015 07:43
Jack White did a great job on Loretta Lynn's 'Van Lear Rose'.
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: November 28, 2015 08:04
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Great falsetto singers:
Curtis Mayfield
Smokey Robinson
Marvin Gaye
Al Green
Eddie Kendricks
Mick is alright on Worried About You and great on Heaven, but horrible on Emotional Rescue and Fool to Cry.
I recall Mick saying he got the technique and inspiration from one particular singer, maybe it was Eddie Kendricks?
And I agree with KRiffhard that Jack White did a great job on Loretta Lynn's record. Some people just have a talent for bringing out the best in people and it has little to do with their ability to sing or play guitar. People suggesting that he couldn't do well with the Stones based on that are obviously missing the point, imo.
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Hairball
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Date: November 28, 2015 08:47
Producing Loretta Lynn is a bit of a different animal than it would be producing the Stones, especially when having to deal with and answer to/obey Mick and Keith imo.
Not sure if anyone has suggested he wouldn't do a decent job based on his singing and guitar ability (maybe they have?), although those traits are being criticized here. I think it's the fact that there's not much common ground or compatibility between them, but I suppose the same could be said for him and Loretta Lynne, so go figure.
At any rate, doubt it will happen...Mick would probably rather have someone like Will I.Am, Danger Mouse or Don Was again, while Keith would be happy with himself and Steve Jordan being in charge.
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Not sure if anyone has suggested he wouldn't do a decent job based on his singing and guitar ability (maybe they have?), although those traits are being criticized here. I think it's the fact that there's not much common ground or compatibility between them, but I suppose the same could be said for him and Loretta Lynne, so go figure.
At any rate, doubt it will happen...Mick would probably rather have someone like Will I.Am, Danger Mouse or Don Was again, while Keith would be happy with himself and Steve Jordan being in charge.
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
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Date: November 28, 2015 08:51
Me and the Glimmer Twins would be a better choice ....
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
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Date: November 28, 2015 09:02
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Me and the Glimmer Twins would be a better choice ....
Ok Rockee tell me which mic you would use for Charlie's kick drum and which one for snare, if you can answer I will cast my vote for you! I think you just might be able to pick out the good songs from the bad! lol
And Hairball are you suggesting Mick and Keith are harder to work with than Loretta Lynn?
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
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Date: November 28, 2015 10:43
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Yeah his women voice matches that white pan makeup he wares. He doesn't sing in falsetto he just has a girly voice.
Everything about this statement is so . . wrong . . in so many ways . . .
OK, moving on.
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
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Date: November 28, 2015 10:50
Awwww Charlie will help me that ...
I'll be just goin' by which playback sounds the best ... And Keith likes me too that'll help
ROCKMAN
I'll be just goin' by which playback sounds the best ... And Keith likes me too that'll help
ROCKMAN
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Date: November 28, 2015 10:50
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Great falsetto singers:
Curtis Mayfield
Smokey Robinson
Marvin Gaye
Al Green
Eddie Kendricks
Mick is alright on Worried About You and great on Heaven, but horrible on Emotional Rescue and Fool to Cry.
I recall Mick saying he got the technique and inspiration from one particular singer, maybe it was Eddie Kendricks?
And I agree with KRiffhard that Jack White did a great job on Loretta Lynn's record. Some people just have a talent for bringing out the best in people and it has little to do with their ability to sing or play guitar. People suggesting that he couldn't do well with the Stones based on that are obviously missing the point, imo.
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: November 28, 2015 10:52
I recall Mick saying he got the technique and inspiration from one particular singer, maybe it was Eddie Kendricks?
Luther Vandross
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: November 28, 2015 11:04
Ok Rockee tell me which mic you would use for Charlie's kick drum and which one for snare,
Gimmie ya phone number Natualusteee and we can give ya a ring if we get stuck with a mic problem ...
ROCKMAN
Gimmie ya phone number Natualusteee and we can give ya a ring if we get stuck with a mic problem ...
ROCKMAN
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Date: November 28, 2015 17:50
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Rockman
Me and the Glimmer Twins would be a better choice ....
Ok Rockee tell me which mic you would use for Charlie's kick drum and which one for snare, if you can answer I will cast my vote for you! I think you just might be able to pick out the good songs from the bad! lol
And Hairball are you suggesting Mick and Keith are harder to work with than Loretta Lynn?
Not being familiar with Loretta Lynn's attitude (are you saying she's a big bad meanie?),
I was just making the assumption that two giant egos would be more difficult to deal with than one.
Besides, Jack White may have sweet talked Loretta with his 'girly voice'.
As for any new potential producer, and someone who has serious Stones cred - I vote for Rockman!
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Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: November 28, 2015 19:55
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Rockman
Awwww Charlie will help me that ...
I'll be just goin' by which playback sounds the best ... And Keith likes me too that'll help
OK , How does Executive Production Assistant Sound? I don't think Charlie concerns himself much with those kind of technical details in the studio, here's a guy who doesn't even tune his drums. lol
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Date: November 28, 2015 19:58
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And Hairball are you suggesting Mick and Keith are harder to work with than Loretta Lynn?
Not being familiar with Loretta Lynn's attitude (are you saying she's a big bad meanie?),
I was just making the assumption that two giant egos would be more difficult to deal with than one.
Besides, Jack White may have sweet talked Loretta with his 'girly voice'.
As for any new potential producer, and someone who has serious Stones cred - I vote for Rockman!
No I don't know anything about Loretta Lynn's attitude, she's probably a total sweetheart.
Re: Jack White as Stones Producer
Posted by:
24FPS
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Date: November 29, 2015 09:44
Hell I'd just love to hear Jack White play WITH the Stones on a new album. Anybody who thinks he doesn't have the chops or producing expertise don't know what they're talking about. And Jack White sure as hell has some more interesting piano players on his albums than the Stones do.
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