For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
1962
I really hope an early (1963-1967) outtakes, demos, covers, lives box-release!
Quote
HMS
Most outtakes/demo versions/alternate takes stay in the archives for good reason. May they never see the light of day.
Quote
spunky
What about Beggars Banquet?
Would be nice withsongs as Pay your dues, Family, Hamburger to go, Highway Child and the making of Sympathy For The Devil
Quote
HMS
Most outtakes/demo versions/alternate takes stay in the archives for good reason. May they never see the light of day.
Quote
DoctorFreddieQuote
1962
I really hope an early (1963-1967) outtakes, demos, covers, lives box-release!
Quote
Thrylan
On the latest, the live stuff is really cool, but I was somewhat disappointed in the "bonus" outtakes disc. I like it, but they left some really good,(better IMO) material off. Will there be a LIB bonus I wonder? The timeline is very close, and we know they've blurred it before- Title 5 comes to mind immediately. I thought for sure we'd get Travelin' Man, Still a Fool, and "Goin' Down the Line"......we didn't. These would have been more interesting to me, maybe I'm wrong.
Quote
TheGreek
emotional rescue should get the deluxe treatment .there should be many leftover tracks from Pathe Marconi sessions and i think from Montserate (if i am correcet about that location )and i also think they laid down tracks in Paris also
Quote
BeforeTheyMakeMeRunQuote
Thrylan
On the latest, the live stuff is really cool, but I was somewhat disappointed in the "bonus" outtakes disc. I like it, but they left some really good,(better IMO) material off. Will there be a LIB bonus I wonder? The timeline is very close, and we know they've blurred it before- Title 5 comes to mind immediately. I thought for sure we'd get Travelin' Man, Still a Fool, and "Goin' Down the Line"......we didn't. These would have been more interesting to me, maybe I'm wrong.
It mystifies me as to the amount of peoplecomplaining aboutdissatisfied with the Sticky Fingers bonus disc(s). Sure, we've received the Clapton version of 'Brown Sugar' and a version of 'Wild Horses' minus the electric instruments, but look at the NEW material there is...A 3:24 version of 'Can't You Hear Me Knocking', a nearly six(!) minute version of 'B!tch', and a version of 'Dead Flowers' that may or may not be the one on bootlegs already (I'll admit, I usually keep relaying the last two I mentioned. ) What's more? The 'lost' two Leeds tracks were finally released, as were a few tracks from the Roadhouse gigs.
I doubt there will be any pre-Sticky Fingers releases, due to the simple fact that those are Decca recordings. If Decca would like to release their own Archive series, fantastic (I'd love to be proven wrong), but if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath. The last remasters they released for those were in 2002, right? And they seem to sell fairly well without any trimmings.
Quote
pepganzo
Hasn't got the ABKCO Music & Records, Inc.the rights/copyrights on Let It Bleed and BB (and the older albums)?. I think that they'll release a deluxe edition of Tattoo You or SW.
But I'd like to listen to some live concerts from 1970 or 1972 in good quality not an outtakes disc with the original one.
Anyway I think that their best deluxe edition is Some Girls.
Quote
dandelion1967Quote
DoctorFreddieQuote
1962
I really hope an early (1963-1967) outtakes, demos, covers, lives box-release!
Quote
TheGreek
emotional rescue should get the deluxe treatment .there should be many leftover tracks from Pathe Marconi sessions and i think from Montserate (if i am correcet about that location )and i also think they laid down tracks in Paris also
Quote
ThrylanQuote
BeforeTheyMakeMeRunQuote
Thrylan
On the latest, the live stuff is really cool, but I was somewhat disappointed in the "bonus" outtakes disc. I like it, but they left some really good,(better IMO) material off. Will there be a LIB bonus I wonder? The timeline is very close, and we know they've blurred it before- Title 5 comes to mind immediately. I thought for sure we'd get Travelin' Man, Still a Fool, and "Goin' Down the Line"......we didn't. These would have been more interesting to me, maybe I'm wrong.
It mystifies me as to the amount of peoplecomplaining aboutdissatisfied with the Sticky Fingers bonus disc(s). Sure, we've received the Clapton version of 'Brown Sugar' and a version of 'Wild Horses' minus the electric instruments, but look at the NEW material there is...A 3:24 version of 'Can't You Hear Me Knocking', a nearly six(!) minute version of 'B!tch', and a version of 'Dead Flowers' that may or may not be the one on bootlegs already (I'll admit, I usually keep relaying the last two I mentioned. ) What's more? The 'lost' two Leeds tracks were finally released, as were a few tracks from the Roadhouse gigs.
I doubt there will be any pre-Sticky Fingers releases, due to the simple fact that those are Decca recordings. If Decca would like to release their own Archive series, fantastic (I'd love to be proven wrong), but if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath. The last remasters they released for those were in 2002, right? And they seem to sell fairly well without any trimmings.
I think its due to the specific selections. Not only have we heard most of them, (in decent quality), but there was nothing "new". Most of us are yearning for new material. Or, to put it another way, I don't ever need another BS or DF, I need more Plundered or Yellow Cab, at least they feel new.
Quote
pepganzo
Hasn't got the ABKCO Music & Records, Inc.the rights/copyrights on Let It Bleed and BB (and the older albums)?. I think that they'll release a deluxe edition of Tattoo You or SW.
But I'd like to listen to some live concerts from 1970 or 1972 in good quality not an outtakes disc with the original one.
Anyway I think that their best deluxe edition is Some Girls.
Quote
dcba
Don't laugh (yet) but DW would be a good candidate : there's a bunch of good songs that sound nothing the album we know and which would make a nice 3-cd set : "Crushed Pearl" the sublime "What Am I Gonna Do With Your Love" etc etc.
I can live without an alt version of "Fight" or "Winning Ugly" but "Invitation" or "Talk Is Cheap" deserve a legit release...
Quote
BluerangerQuote
pepganzo
Hasn't got the ABKCO Music & Records, Inc.the rights/copyrights on Let It Bleed and BB (and the older albums)?. I think that they'll release a deluxe edition of Tattoo You or SW.
But I'd like to listen to some live concerts from 1970 or 1972 in good quality not an outtakes disc with the original one.
Anyway I think that their best deluxe edition is Some Girls.
For the zillionth time:
ABKCO vs. Stones is not an issue anymore and hasn't been for years.
ABKCO published material was used on Exile Deluxe as well, without any issues.
Quote
NaturalustQuote
BluerangerQuote
pepganzo
Hasn't got the ABKCO Music & Records, Inc.the rights/copyrights on Let It Bleed and BB (and the older albums)?. I think that they'll release a deluxe edition of Tattoo You or SW.
But I'd like to listen to some live concerts from 1970 or 1972 in good quality not an outtakes disc with the original one.
Anyway I think that their best deluxe edition is Some Girls.
For the zillionth time:
ABKCO vs. Stones is not an issue anymore and hasn't been for years.
ABKCO published material was used on Exile Deluxe as well, without any issues.
While they are obviously sharing a cooperative spirit with ABKCO, releasing a record with a majority of or all ABKCO owned songs isn't probably going to happen when other releases they could do would put more money it their pockets. They aren't releasing this stuff to please the fanbase, it's all about business, imo, and it doesn't make as good business sense to promote songs you don't own vs. ones you do. That is the issue and it's unfortunate because I'd love nothing more than to hear outtakes and alternates from the BB/LIB sessions.
Quote
ThrylanQuote
dcba
Don't laugh (yet) but DW would be a good candidate : there's a bunch of good songs that sound nothing the album we know and which would make a nice 3-cd set : "Crushed Pearl" the sublime "What Am I Gonna Do With Your Love" etc etc.
I can live without an alt version of "Fight" or "Winning Ugly" but "Invitation" or "Talk Is Cheap" deserve a legit release...
I'll walk down this road with you. I would also assert there is a logic to it. Pathe Marconi, and forward are post Toronto bust. We all know Mick had gradually taken over, and Keith was ready to help steer again. From 77', at least through 94', more was left nearly finished on the floor than was ever released. I wonder if this was part of the struggle? Keith would bring a rocker and push it until it was obvious Mick wasn't in, and rather than compromise, just bull headedly start over, and vice versa. It's fair to say, on SG, they picked well, on ER, pretty well, TY, drew from everywhere very well, UC, not as well and on DW they couldn't have been much worse at picking. You touch on something that always puzzled me- Claudine, Yellow Cab, We Had it All and Let's go Steady are better than 90% of what they put out from UC forward- How could they not releases them?!? Puzzling
Quote
BeforeTheyMakeMeRunQuote
ThrylanQuote
dcba
Don't laugh (yet) but DW would be a good candidate : there's a bunch of good songs that sound nothing the album we know and which would make a nice 3-cd set : "Crushed Pearl" the sublime "What Am I Gonna Do With Your Love" etc etc.
I can live without an alt version of "Fight" or "Winning Ugly" but "Invitation" or "Talk Is Cheap" deserve a legit release...
I'll walk down this road with you. I would also assert there is a logic to it. Pathe Marconi, and forward are post Toronto bust. We all know Mick had gradually taken over, and Keith was ready to help steer again. From 77', at least through 94', more was left nearly finished on the floor than was ever released. I wonder if this was part of the struggle? Keith would bring a rocker and push it until it was obvious Mick wasn't in, and rather than compromise, just bull headedly start over, and vice versa. It's fair to say, on SG, they picked well, on ER, pretty well, TY, drew from everywhere very well, UC, not as well and on DW they couldn't have been much worse at picking. You touch on something that always puzzled me- Claudine, Yellow Cab, We Had it All and Let's go Steady are better than 90% of what they put out from UC forward- How could they not releases them?!? Puzzling
If the Stones do reissue Dirty Work with bonuses, then it truly will be a new day, and hopefully a sight of things to come.
Quote
BluerangerQuote
NaturalustQuote
BluerangerQuote
pepganzo
Hasn't got the ABKCO Music & Records, Inc.the rights/copyrights on Let It Bleed and BB (and the older albums)?. I think that they'll release a deluxe edition of Tattoo You or SW.
But I'd like to listen to some live concerts from 1970 or 1972 in good quality not an outtakes disc with the original one.
Anyway I think that their best deluxe edition is Some Girls.
For the zillionth time:
ABKCO vs. Stones is not an issue anymore and hasn't been for years.
ABKCO published material was used on Exile Deluxe as well, without any issues.
While they are obviously sharing a cooperative spirit with ABKCO, releasing a record with a majority of or all ABKCO owned songs isn't probably going to happen when other releases they could do would put more money it their pockets. They aren't releasing this stuff to please the fanbase, it's all about business, imo, and it doesn't make as good business sense to promote songs you don't own vs. ones you do. That is the issue and it's unfortunate because I'd love nothing more than to hear outtakes and alternates from the BB/LIB sessions.
You do know that every ABKCO release these days are blessed by The Stones themselves, right? ABKCO can't just release what they want and a new ABKCO release will have to be signed off by them. The Stones may not own the songs, but they are getting a big royality percent from every new release. It is without doubt, also a way to get get money.