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Lynd8
Robin should be forgiven - the video of the songs was awesome LOL
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I am an attorney, have dealt with copyright issues, and have a hard time understanding this decision. I haven't listened to the songs closely or studied the music but my initial reaction is that there isn't enough to support a copyright infringement claim.
I wonder if the jury was properly instructed. Appeal.
Do you know how they'd have to go about it?...
The legal process, that is, if they want to appeal the verdict?
Yes. If they believe that a mistake was made in the application of the law, they can appeal to an federal court of appeals. The problem that I have is that while the songs sound similar, most of the similarity is based on which I believe are "non-protected" elements. That is why the reports are that the jury was not allowed to listen to the whole track and spent most of its time with sheet music. But just casual listening tells me that the protectible elements aren't very similar. That said, I haven't studied the organ parts, the melody, the lyrics, etc., which are all protectible.
I'll wait for articles by legal professionals, but it's definitely an interesting case. The one thing I do know - it's clear that you can still make money in the music industry!
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woodyweaving
Forgive my ignorance but what was the reference about Bo Diddley estate?
Well, who hasn't ripped off the Bo Diddley beat?
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Didn't someone like Tom Petty (i forget exactly who), maybe John Fogerty get sued for stealing their own song ? That's a classic.
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Didn't someone like Tom Petty (i forget exactly who), maybe John Fogerty get sued for stealing their own song ? That's a classic.
Yes. John Fogerty stole his own song. Run Through the Jungle <--> The Old Man Down the Road. He won the case though.
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drbryant
I am an attorney, have dealt with copyright issues, and have a hard time understanding this decision. I haven't listened to the songs closely or studied the music but my initial reaction is that there isn't enough to support a copyright infringement claim.
I wonder if the jury was properly instructed. Appeal.
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jlowe
I thought there was no money go be had these days from record sales, only from performances?
7.2 million seems a lot of dosh.
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Didn't someone like Tom Petty (i forget exactly who), maybe John Fogerty get sued for stealing their own song ? That's a classic.
Yes. John Fogerty stole his own song. Run Through the Jungle <--> The Old Man Down the Road. He won the case though.
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woodyweaving
Forgive my ignorance but what was the reference about Bo Diddley estate?
Well, who hasn't ripped off the Bo Diddley beat?
I think The Beatles are in the clear on that one.
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Didn't someone like Tom Petty (i forget exactly who), maybe John Fogerty get sued for stealing their own song ? That's a classic.
Yes. John Fogerty stole his own song. Run Through the Jungle <--> The Old Man Down the Road. He won the case though.
and "Street Fighting Man" sure sounds like "Did Everyone Pay Their Dues" to me!
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Didn't someone like Tom Petty (i forget exactly who), maybe John Fogerty get sued for stealing their own song ? That's a classic.
Yes. John Fogerty stole his own song. Run Through the Jungle <--> The Old Man Down the Road. He won the case though.
I read somewhere that he lost!!
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Didn't someone like Tom Petty (i forget exactly who), maybe John Fogerty get sued for stealing their own song ? That's a classic.
Yes. John Fogerty stole his own song. Run Through the Jungle <--> The Old Man Down the Road. He won the case though.
I read somewhere that he lost!!
This is what I read:
Fogerty won over the jury by bringing his guitar to the witness stand and personally demonstrating why the two songs were different.
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gibsonman
Interesting video Wonder if you have to admit to have stolen from other songs or if it's just enough that a song is similar to another song/ melody to get you convicted? I mean if you make a song without knowing it has been done before, is it considered a crime?
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gibsonman
Interesting video Wonder if you have to admit to have stolen from other songs or if it's just enough that a song is similar to another song/ melody to get you convicted? I mean if you make a song without knowing it has been done before, is it considered a crime?
Still a copyright infringement, yes.
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gibsonman
being sued for stealing your own song? Epic!!
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being sued for stealing your own song? Epic!!
It could have happened to the Stones with "Must Be Hell" (1983) and "Soul Survivor" (1972).
Maybe we fans who bought "Undercover" should start a class action against the band? Is it too late to let justice prevail? ><
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GasLightStreet
[. Look What The Cat Dragged In is just Rock And A Hard Place (only much better).
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Didn't someone like Tom Petty (i forget exactly who), maybe John Fogerty get sued for stealing their own song ? That's a classic.
Yes. John Fogerty stole his own song. Run Through the Jungle <--> The Old Man Down the Road. He won the case though.
I read somewhere that he lost!!
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GasLightStreet
Nona Gaye, Marvin's daughter, told CBS, "I'm not going to lie. I do think they sound alike."
Did anyone ever imply she was going to lie? Was she accused of lying? Has she lied before? Why can't people simply SAY what they want to say instead of polluting it with garbage?