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georgelicks
The last one of that kind was Voodoo Lounge, Bridges is 2 solo albums combined and ABB is a Mick solo album with Keith as main guitar player.
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stonehearted
<<Mick... should have stuck to his knitting>>
Keith has been known to do a bit of weaving, but Mick knitting? Georgia May has done some knitting though....
It isn't like in the days of Exile, when they would literally live together, jam for hours on end most every day and simply will songs into existence.
These days each writes on his own and when they show up for recording after years apart they pool their resources, and a solo song becomes a Stones song because it's recorded by the band.
Sure, Bridges had some filler but then so did a lot of early albums as well. You can't write a #1 hit or instant classic every time, but for what it is (a double album, technically speaking) Bridges is pretty good, the last album that really hooked in a new generation of fans.
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vudicus
The vinyl sucked too.
Same compressed audio on wafer thin vinyl.
Every copy I checked (probably around 25 copies) was either warped, smothered in non-fill spots or both.
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vudicus
The vinyl sucked too.
Same compressed audio on wafer thin vinyl.
Every copy I checked (probably around 25 copies) was either warped, smothered in non-fill spots or both.
OK, and I'm probably asking a neophyte question here, but I NEED TO KNOW!
What is a 'non-fill spot'?
I'd looked this term up last year as it came up often as a concern related to the Beatles Vinyl Box (stereo). Could never find the definition.
WHAT is 'non-fill spot'?!
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stonehearted
<<Mick... should have stuck to his knitting>>
Keith has been known to do a bit of weaving, but Mick knitting? Georgia May has done some knitting though....
It isn't like in the days of Exile, when they would literally live together, jam for hours on end most every day and simply will songs into existence.
These days each writes on his own and when they show up for recording after years apart they pool their resources, and a solo song becomes a Stones song because it's recorded by the band.
Sure, Bridges had some filler but then so did a lot of early albums as well. You can't write a #1 hit or instant classic every time, but for what it is (a double album, technically speaking) Bridges is pretty good, the last album that really hooked in a new generation of fans.
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vudicus
The vinyl sucked too.
Same compressed audio on wafer thin vinyl.
Every copy I checked (probably around 25 copies) was either warped, smothered in non-fill spots or both.
OK, and I'm probably asking a neophyte question here, but I NEED TO KNOW!
What is a 'non-fill spot'?
I'd looked this term up last year as it came up often as a concern related to the Beatles Vinyl Box (stereo). Could never find the definition.
WHAT is 'non-fill spot'?!
No problem, I always knew of this issue but only recently learnt the term.
Ever held a brand new record in the light and seen light almost white groove lines in places? Usually an inch or two long.
It kinda looks like the record been tracked badly by a mis-aligned stylus and worn away in places.
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That is non fill and usually gives off a short hissy scratchy sound when the stylus passes through.
If I remember correctly, the last track on certain sides of A Bigger Bang had these issues.
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vudicus
I think a Bigger Bang had many great songs on it, and a couple that were not so good.
The real problem with the album is the terrible brick walled mastering.
Everything is distorted and fighting for attention.
That kind of mastering should be illegal and punishable by Spanish Inquisition style comfy pillow torture.
The vinyl sucked too.
Same compressed audio on wafer thin vinyl.
Every copy I checked (probably around 25 copies) was either warped, smothered in non-fill spots or both.
As for Babylon, I love it.
If Don Was had produced all the tracks it would have been even better.
That raw sound he got down was superb. Like a nastier Voodoo Lounge.
Voodoo Lounge, I wouldn't change a thing.
I even love Suck on the Jugular and Blinded By Rainbows.
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Justin
I think Bridges is their last ambitious album. That's not saying they brought their songwriting to new heights that surpassed their earlier glory albums, but it doesn't come off as nostalgic as Voodoo Lounge or ABB does. Both those albums are still using the old Stones recipe across many tunes. Bridges doesn't really have to many "nods" to the Stones sound. It's the Stones with a new batch of songs that I think worked very very well for them at that point in their career. A little bit like "Time Out of Mind" did for Dylan during that period as well. Even though it comes across as two solo albums smashed together, each Glimmer twin contributes in a big way to each other's songs. More than I can hear on ABB.
PS. Can't there ever be a thread with a Georgia Jagger picture in it without a Bridgette Bardot picture to follow?? She looks like her...we get it. Everyone's made that connection for the last 10 years.
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RawIguanaCologne
...Okay, there were fillers like "Gun" or so, ...
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Rockman
....okay then lets switch BB for Drew Barrymore
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vudicus
The vinyl sucked too.
Same compressed audio on wafer thin vinyl.
Every copy I checked (probably around 25 copies) was either warped, smothered in non-fill spots or both.
OK, and I'm probably asking a neophyte question here, but I NEED TO KNOW!
What is a 'non-fill spot'?
I'd looked this term up last year as it came up often as a concern related to the Beatles Vinyl Box (stereo). Could never find the definition.
WHAT is 'non-fill spot'?!
No problem, I always knew of this issue but only recently learnt the term.
Ever held a brand new record in the light and seen light almost white groove lines in places? Usually an inch or two long.
It kinda looks like the record been tracked badly by a mis-aligned stylus and worn away in places.
.
That is non fill and usually gives off a short hissy scratchy sound when the stylus passes through.
If I remember correctly, the last track on certain sides of A Bigger Bang had these issues.
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Palace Revolution 2000
I bet 90% of ABB's songs have never eve been played as a band. For a band like the Stones, that is tragic. No wonder it didn't flow.
Rough Justice was an obvious "must play"; and we all saw how the hated "Streets of Love" flourished on stage.
The ABB tour could and should have been similar to the 78 Some Girls tour.
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vertigojoe
Having played and listened to way too much loud music over the last 30+ years I cannot listen to ABB without finding it an uncomfortable and painful experience. It's like being assaulted in an alleyway.
I was so excited when hearing that live version of ONNYA. I LOVED IT. Stripped to 9 or 10 songs, Why not B&B had only 8? And a Totally different approach to the mastering it would have been a great farewell LP.
I Honestly don't want another unless it's all old covers.
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vertigojoe
Having played and listened to way too much loud music over the last 30+ years I cannot listen to ABB without finding it an uncomfortable and painful experience. It's like being assaulted in an alleyway.
I was so excited when hearing that live version of ONNYA. I LOVED IT. Stripped to 9 or 10 songs, Why not B&B had only 8? And a Totally different approach to the mastering it would have been a great farewell LP.
I Honestly don't want another unless it's all old covers.
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vertigojoe
Having played and listened to way too much loud music over the last 30+ years I cannot listen to ABB without finding it an uncomfortable and painful experience. It's like being assaulted in an alleyway.
I was so excited when hearing that live version of ONNYA. I LOVED IT. Stripped to 9 or 10 songs, Why not B&B had only 8? And a Totally different approach to the mastering it would have been a great farewell LP.
I Honestly don't want another unless it's all old covers.
Again this proves the NON-involvement of Keith, or anyone tempered. One thong I have learned to appreciate in music is patience. Song like "YCAGWYW", or"Hot Stuff" or even "Jigsaw Puzzle" and "Stray Cat Blues" are built with grace and elegance. I see this: A Bigger Bang is not elegant. Songs slowed down. A bridge here or there. Some acoustic guitars FFS. Less cuts, and "Under the Radar" included.
Jagger on some level doesn't get the Stones vis-a-visthe new millenium. I hate saying something like that, because it comes off as preposterous. But the Rolling Stones myth and brand is something so big, that it isn't really the band's alone anymore.