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Brstonesfan
I think it's only naturally to want the band to be on top when it comes to gross. Recall the pride we had when VL became the highest grossing tour of all time. Sadly, we have lost the gross to U2 and I believe we only have approximately 4 of the top 10 grossing concerts of all time.........
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drbryant
Not sure if it's the promotion or the economy or what, but these are incredible numbers. No wonder they don't spend time recording new albums. It makes no economic sense.
But does it make artistic sense?
Sure it does... Spend a month or more locked in a studio to produce 10-14 songs which (relatively) few people will ever hear and many of your long-time fans will spend endless effort telling anyone who will listen how crappy the "fake" new stuff is compared to the "real" old stuff.
OR
Spend a month or more doing some traveling, playing some of the greatest rock & roll songs in history for 10's & 100's of thousands of people who consistently have a wonderful time listening to you do so.
While many here and world-wide may not currently be thrilled by the Rolling Stones as RECORDING artists, apparently there are still apparently many people world-wide who are still thrilled by the Rolling Stones as PERFORMING artists.
As a return on the investment of TIME alone, I'd say the Stones have realized that there is far more reward for their artistic excellence in performing than recording.
What's the old saying about letting your light shine as opposed to keeping it hidden? While they may no longer be the recording or performing artists they were in their early years, they are STILL one of the top performing artists willing to walk on stage. They may have lost the willingness to burn the midnight oil in the studio, but as long as they're willing to walk on stage and let their light shine there, why complain and try to stop them? I seem to also remember an old saying about the greatest good for the greatest number of people. I'd have to say that their current touring is bringing a greater good to more people than their current recording most likely ever will again.
I may be wrong.
Peace,
Mr DJA
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Beast
<<We have lost generations of new fans
because of the crap we have put out since 89>>
It would appear from the reports etc. that they (as opposed to this mysterious "we" ) have in fact *WON* generations of new fans through their recent performances.
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Beast
<<We have lost generations of new fans
because of the crap we have put out since 89>>
It would appear from the reports etc. that they (as opposed to this mysterious "we" ) have in fact *WON* generations of new fans through their recent performances.
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Beast
<<We have lost generations of new fans
because of the crap we have put out since 89>>
It would appear from the reports etc. that they (as opposed to this mysterious "we" ) have in fact *WON* generations of new fans through their recent performances.
Spot on. I'm 30 and I felt bloody old at the shows! Brilliant to have so many ages at the European gigs!
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Brstonesfan
I think it's only naturally to want the band to be on top when it comes to gross. Recall the pride we had when VL became the highest grossing tour of all time. Sadly, we have lost the gross to U2 and I believe we only have approximately 4 of the top 10 grossing concerts of all time.........
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Brstonesfan
just be proud to be a dedicated follower of The Greatest Rock'nRoll Band In The World for so and so long.
no Bieber or U2 can take that away from you.
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Brstonesfan
I think it's only naturally to want the band to be on top when it comes to gross. Recall the pride we had when VL became the highest grossing tour of all time. Sadly, we have lost the gross to U2 and I believe we only have approximately 4 of the top 10 grossing concerts of all time.........
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Beast
<<We have lost generations of new fans
because of the crap we have put out since 89>>
It would appear from the reports etc. that they (as opposed to this mysterious "we" ) have in fact *WON* generations of new fans through their recent performances.
Spot on. I'm 30 and I felt bloody old at the shows! Brilliant to have so many ages at the European gigs!
c watts " we are a PLAYING band - that's what we do" they have realised that it's the playing, using the platform of their iconic catalogue, is what they do. The risk of a minor car crash ( particularly in keiths set) keeps the thing interesting and alive for the older fans and the catalogue for the newQuote
Brstonesfan
They need to record a album that is credible to regain their legacy
as the greatest rock band ever. We have lost generations of new fans
because of the crap we have put out since 89. MT must be included as
he was singularly responsible for the best work the band ever recorded.
This will enable us to win not only the touring gross, but to be once again
taken seriously as a creative band.
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Brstonesfan
They need to record a album that is credible to regain their legacy
as the greatest rock band ever. We have lost generations of new fans
because of the crap we have put out since 89. MT must be included as
he was singularly responsible for the best work the band ever recorded.
This will enable us to win not only the touring gross, but to be once again
taken seriously as a creative band.
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Harm
Vasco Rossi is The Rolling Stones of Italy...single-handed.....voglio una vita spericolata
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Beast
<<We have lost generations of new fans
because of the crap we have put out since 89>>
it would appear from the reports etc. that they (as opposed to this mysterious "we" )
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Harm
Vasco Rossi is The Rolling Stones of Italy...single-handed.....voglio una vita spericolata
Harm no offense, but Vasco Rossi is a lot of garbage
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buffalo7478
Unless something has changed since the 80s when I promoted a number of shows, the Billboard numbers are self-reported by the promoter and unverified. I produced shows by a couple of acts whose managers insisted we inflate attendance on our submission to Billboard to report a sellout.
It also used to happen with record companies shipping massive amounts of records upfront so that week one sales figures could be huge..whether the records sold or not.
Lots of people with lots of egos and a desire to be on top in the industry...and possibly no one independently verifying can lead to some iffy numbers. Not saying it is the case here, but beware taking self reported numbers as factual in an industry where egos sometimes trump everything else.
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LongBeachArena72
Coudn't care less about box office. Am more interested in legacies, artistic and otherwise.
The three rock artists I have cared most about over the years are Bowie, Dylan, and The Stones. All have taken very different paths in their "twilight" years.
Bowie disappears for a decade, then releases a magnificent album, then ... who knows?
Dylan tours constantly and has released some of the best records of his career since 1997.
The Stones haven't recorded anything of any merit since (arguably) the 70's and yet are fresh off what has apparently been one of their most successful—and possibly rejuevnating—tours of their career.
So who's doing it right? Who's playing for posterity? How will history judge their outputs and how they managed their careers in their latter stages?
My preference is for new music, always. I regard all of these men as artists and look forward to what they have to say, musically, about the changing times we live in. By that measure, The Stones have fallen flat. It's been decades since they had anything relevant to say, in my opinion, about what it's like to be alive today. Whereas new records by Dylan, and THE NEXT DAY, are fascinating portraits of modern times, are chronicles by great men looking at what the world has become.
But The Stones keep touring and touring and touring and playing the same old songs ... and millions of people around the world continue to pony up the cash to sustain the juggernaut. In 50 years, will the view be that they sullied their glorious legacy by the endless repetition of what are known here as "The Vegas Years"? Probably not. Their catalog will be remembered and revered.
I just miss them. Miss hearing what they have to say about growing old. About still playing together after all these years. About women, and children, and grandchildren, and fame, and money, and love, and sex. They wrote some great songs about all those things.
Bowie and Dylan still do.
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LongBeachArena72
Coudn't care less about box office. Am more interested in legacies, artistic and otherwise.
The three rock artists I have cared most about over the years are Bowie, Dylan, and The Stones. All have taken very different paths in their "twilight" years.
Bowie disappears for a decade, then releases a magnificent album, then ... who knows?
Dylan tours constantly and has released some of the best records of his career since 1997.
The Stones haven't recorded anything of any merit since (arguably) the 70's and yet are fresh off what has apparently been one of their most successful—and possibly rejuevnating—tours of their career.
So who's doing it right? Who's playing for posterity? How will history judge their outputs and how they managed their careers in their latter stages?
My preference is for new music, always. I regard all of these men as artists and look forward to what they have to say, musically, about the changing times we live in. By that measure, The Stones have fallen flat. It's been decades since they had anything relevant to say, in my opinion, about what it's like to be alive today. Whereas new records by Dylan, and THE NEXT DAY, are fascinating portraits of modern times, are chronicles by great men looking at what the world has become.
But The Stones keep touring and touring and touring and playing the same old songs ... and millions of people around the world continue to pony up the cash to sustain the juggernaut. In 50 years, will the view be that they sullied their glorious legacy by the endless repetition of what are known here as "The Vegas Years"? Probably not. Their catalog will be remembered and revered.
I just miss them. Miss hearing what they have to say about growing old. About still playing together after all these years. About women, and children, and grandchildren, and fame, and money, and love, and sex. They wrote some great songs about all those things.
Bowie and Dylan still do.