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Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: MILKYWAY ()
Date: May 17, 2014 04:03

I just purchased a reel to reel tape player from a neighbor. I have been planning on buying one for some time. I have read a number of articles from audiophile magazines and websites that claim the best sound one can get at home is via reel tape. The reel tape player I purchased is a four-channel deck. I don't know if the Stones did anything quadraphonic.

Does anyone know of Stones releases on reel tape? Where can one find them for sale (maybe eBay)? Does anyone own any Stones albums on reel? How do they sound?

Thank you.


Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: May 17, 2014 04:22

Reel-to-reel was a consumer high-end format in the 50s and 60s. It was deemed to have better sound than audio. I do not know if any Stones albums were released on reel-to-reel. However, the Stones did record on reel-to-reel tape, first mono, then multi-track (4,8,16,24). Those tapes would not be playable on a consumer reel-to-reel deck. What kind of deck (make, model) did you get?

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: Rollin' Stoner ()
Date: May 17, 2014 04:38

there are different stones recordings on reel to reel.. from the '60s and early 70s...they pop up on ebay...don't know how they sound



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-05-17 04:47 by Rollin' Stoner.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: Rollin' Stoner ()
Date: May 17, 2014 04:39


Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: MILKYWAY ()
Date: May 17, 2014 04:54

Quote
71Tele
What kind of deck (make, model) did you get?


A TEAC A-3340S:




Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: flacnvinyl ()
Date: May 17, 2014 05:12

If you have the right equipment and a clean reel, they sound amazing. Lots of pieces to that puzzle. Remember that tape doesn't deal with the same physical issues as vinyl.. example being that vinyl mastering has to notch certain frequencies to not make the needle jump off the groove. Eq is re applied in playback. Tape is straight, just like the original masters.

I don't collect reel but know several who do.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: DoomandGloom ()
Date: May 17, 2014 05:16

Quote
flacnvinyl
If you have the right equipment and a clean reel, they sound amazing. Lots of pieces to that puzzle. Remember that tape doesn't deal with the same physical issues as vinyl.. example being that vinyl mastering has to notch certain frequencies to not make the needle jump off the groove. Eq is re applied in playback. Tape is straight, just like the original masters.

I don't collect reel but know several who do.
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Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: May 17, 2014 05:42

I used to have a good working reel-to-reel (not as good at the TEAC in this thread though) and although I collected some excellent Beatles reel-to-reel commercial releases I never once saw a Stones' one. Maybe because I was in the UK at the time.

I am though pretty sure that there are unique versions of Stones' recordings on 8-Track. From memory there's something unique about "Some Girls" on 8-Track.

Sadly, although I have some 8-tracks I've not got a working player!

--
Captain Corella
60 Years a Fan

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: May 17, 2014 06:39

I remember seeing Ya Yas on reel to reel.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: May 17, 2014 07:09







.......................... picked this one up recently ....



ROCKMAN

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: May 17, 2014 07:26

Quote
MILKYWAY
Quote
71Tele
What kind of deck (make, model) did you get?


A TEAC A-3340S:




I have the same one! These are not consumer decks for listening. These were considered "semi-professional" decks for multi-track recording. It uses both directions of 1/4" tape (two sides of stereo) to record four tracks. You can overdub. This would not have been a deck to listen to pre-recorded albums on, though I think you can use it for that....I am working on moving the recordings I made with my bands in the early 80s from this deck to digital. Fun project!

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: boston2006 ()
Date: May 17, 2014 10:06

Stones on Reel to Reel

England's Newest Hitmakers
Aftermath
Now !
Out Of Our Heads
Flowers
Decembers Children
Between The Buttons
12 x 5
Got Live If You Want It
Big Hits ( HTAGG )
Through The Past Darkly
Their Satanic Majesties Request
Beggers Banquet
Let Lt Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Hot Rocks
Get Yer Ya Yas Out

These do pop up on ebay once in a while but not very often .

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 17, 2014 11:17

The faster the speed the better the quality, so it's best if you can track down the releases intended to play back at ips with faster speed.

Not sure what speed they usually sre for stones reel to reel album releases, but I think there were atleast 2 speeds for reel to reel releases.

3 3/4 and 7 1/2ips.



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Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: May 17, 2014 11:18

Those commercial tapes were made to play on something like this;

[www.youtube.com]

I used to own one of these - very nice for off-air taping from TV or radio (the illegal downloading technique of the early 1960s) - but I did own a Beach Boys tape and can vouch for the sound being very pleasant to my teenage ears.

Google for EL3541 and you'll find more.

Edit: This machine used 3 3/4 ips - some of the smaller stuff that came later ran at half the speed and didn't sound half as good.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-23 00:09 by Green Lady.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: emilio ()
Date: May 17, 2014 13:06

This is my collection of reel to reel Rolling Stones

[stonesworldcollection.blogspot.it]

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: May 17, 2014 13:22

I guess the tapes will sound even better on the big semiprofessional decks (which may also have survived in better condition than the cheaper mass market machines).

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: May 17, 2014 14:52

Quote
emilio
This is my collection of reel to reel Rolling Stones

[stonesworldcollection.blogspot.it]

Sweet!

Do you know if any of the tapes have tracks on them that are not the usual takes/versions/releases?

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: connection91 ()
Date: May 17, 2014 15:10

I think "It's only rock'n'roll" was the last one.
I got all reel to reel except:
- Exile on main street
- Goat head soup
- It's only rock'n'roll
They are really more expensive and hard to find than the others.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 17, 2014 15:12

Quote
emilio
This is my collection of reel to reel Rolling Stones

[stonesworldcollection.blogspot.it]

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Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: May 17, 2014 18:33

Always tough that the quality of tapes (magnetic field) weakens through the years especially if you don't preserve theme the right way....
Don't know the quality of tapes they use back in the 60's early 70's...... iron chrome metal......

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Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: May 17, 2014 21:08

There once was a fellow here on board registered as stone-relics,
a big collector of vinyl and tapes;
was a big fan of the tape releases.
Just one post here:
[www.iorr.org]

you may search for more.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: boston2006 ()
Date: May 17, 2014 22:32

Quote
connection91
I think "It's only rock'n'roll" was the last one.
I got all reel to reel except:
- Exile on main street
- Goat head soup
- It's only rock'n'roll
They are really more expensive and hard to find than the others.

These must be very scarce as I've never seen any of these .

I have all the same ones as His Majesty

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: May 17, 2014 23:02

Quote
boston2006
Quote
connection91
I think "It's only rock'n'roll" was the last one.
I got all reel to reel except:
- Exile on main street
- Goat head soup
- It's only rock'n'roll
They are really more expensive and hard to find than the others.

These must be very scarce as I've never seen any of these .

I have all the same ones as His Majesty

I've seen Exile and Goats Head on ebay. Both were 7.5 IPS and had blue labels on a black reel.

Exile sold for something like $200.

I've never seen a copy of IORR.
Can anybody confirm that this definitely exists? I thought GHS was the last one released.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: MILKYWAY ()
Date: May 18, 2014 04:31

Quote
71Tele

I have the same one! These are not consumer decks for listening. These were considered "semi-professional" decks for multi-track recording. It uses both directions of 1/4" tape (two sides of stereo) to record four tracks. You can overdub. This would not have been a deck to listen to pre-recorded albums on, though I think you can use it for that....I am working on moving the recordings I made with my bands in the early 80s from this deck to digital. Fun project!

It was a deal I really couldn't pass. The seller of the TEAC A-3340S was the original owner and in the last 20 years rarely used it. In addition to the deck, the seller threw in two TEAC AX-10 sound-on-sound echo units, a TEAC AX-20 mixer, a large roll of splice tape, two empty 10.5" metal reels, two 10.5" blank reels, and some other items.

I have read good things about using a modified TEAC A-3340S to play prerecorded reel tapes, especially quadraphonic reels. I own a tube buffer that I hope to modify and use as a preamp for the TEAC A-3340S.

Good luck on your project. The TEAC A-3340S supposedly is an excellent tool for such recordings.


Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: May 18, 2014 04:46

Milkyway: I would love to find some of those echo units. Of course, I can use digital echo now, but there's something about those original TEAC ones. We did a lot of bouncing down (to free up tracks) in those days, so we got a Fostex 4-channel Dolby C noise reduction unit. When I started working on these tapes I had to find another Fostex, as some of the tapes were encoded with Dolby C. Are you doing multi-track recording?

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: connection91 ()
Date: May 18, 2014 10:12

Quote
vudicus
Quote
boston2006
Quote
connection91
I think "It's only rock'n'roll" was the last one.
I got all reel to reel except:
- Exile on main street
- Goat head soup
- It's only rock'n'roll
They are really more expensive and hard to find than the others.

These must be very scarce as I've never seen any of these .

I have all the same ones as His Majesty

I've seen Exile and Goats Head on ebay. Both were 7.5 IPS and had blue labels on a black reel.

Exile sold for something like $200.

I've never seen a copy of IORR.
Can anybody confirm that this definitely exists? I thought GHS was the last one released.

I think you're right, Goats head should be the last one to be released.

Link to watch Exile and Goats.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: donvis ()
Date: May 18, 2014 20:04

The point is for completists, are there any alternative mixes????

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: May 18, 2014 20:37

Quote
71Tele
Reel-to-reel was a consumer high-end format in the 50s and 60s. It was deemed to have better sound than audio.

That would be an amazing sound indeed.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: May 18, 2014 20:39

Quote
boston2006
Stones on Reel to Reel

England's Newest Hitmakers
Aftermath
Now !
Out Of Our Heads
Flowers
Decembers Children
Between The Buttons
12 x 5
Got Live If You Want It
Big Hits ( HTAGG )
Through The Past Darkly
Their Satanic Majesties Request
Beggers Banquet
Let Lt Bleed
Sticky Fingers
Hot Rocks
Get Yer Ya Yas Out

These do pop up on ebay once in a while but not very often .

yeah, very rare...I've only seen the two bolded ones in my ebay travels.

Re: Rolling Stones reel to reel tapes?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: May 18, 2014 21:04

Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
71Tele
Reel-to-reel was a consumer high-end format in the 50s and 60s. It was deemed to have better sound than audio.

That would be an amazing sound indeed.

Hah! I meant better than vinyl. Not enough coffee.

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