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EJM
He could still be cool in the 1980s drink or no drink

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This is my favorite image from that time drawn by Ron and Keith together

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I think the main thing about Keith is that when he became an incorrigible drunk around 1980, he developed (or revealed) a MASSIVE ego. He likes to give Jagger down the road about ego and it's utterly hypocritical of him to call ANYBODY else an egotist. From all the interviews we've seen and read since he crawled into a bottle, he has an ego and a sense of self-importance that DWARFS Jagger's. I disagree about his "maturing." One read-through of 'Life" is all the evidence you need to see that the man hasn't matured a lick since the Stones hit it big in 1964.He's a 70-year-old adolescent and I don't find it attractive. The junked-out Keith was cool, as was the Big Four era Keith before that. He was the strong silent type. Almost humble.That guy died a long time ago.It's not cool to run down your band mates in print. It's not cool to play up your role as the creative engine in the Stones when we've learned just in the past few years that he was hardly that at all. It's not cool to rip off tens of thousands of paying customers when he was too f**ked up to play well. I love the man for the great music he made consistently in the golden era, but the guy who wrote 'Life' is too often just a plain old jerk. Some of you will think I'm being too hard on him, but he's been so hard on Mick and Brian (among others) for so long, that he invites a big taste of his own medicine.

Man, that's a pretty scathing assessment! Then again, the operative word in the subject line is "IMAGE".

Damn straight it's a scathing assessment. And in my humble opinion Keith deserves it. Image? Being a jerk is an "image?" Not to me; it's being an ass. And hey, so I'm scathing? What does Keith care? I'm a nobody on a message board and he's a drunk pothead in a limousine. He can take it.

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I like his 1966 - 1967 experimental pop star image. Keith and Brian at Ready Steady Go in October 1966 image wise is just a whole lot of aceness for me.

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ANjb-yAVE


So what about the keith of around 2006 playing The blues ?

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ANjb-yAVE


So what about the keith of around 2006 playing The blues ?

Playing stuff like this is what reveals who a person really is. Keith sitting down and playing a blues number like this is proof positiive their's the "IMAGE" and then there's the man. Here's another example of how a persons "IMAGE" is in direct contradiction with reality.

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No Aquamarine that was not the reason, the reason was that I agreed with what your and mine fellow iorrian From4tilLate wrote in his/her post. That's all.

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I think the main thing about Keith is that when he became an incorrigible drunk around 1980, he developed (or revealed) a MASSIVE ego. He likes to give Jagger down the road about ego and it's utterly hypocritical of him to call ANYBODY else an egotist. From all the interviews we've seen and read since he crawled into a bottle, he has an ego and a sense of self-importance that DWARFS Jagger's. I disagree about his "maturing." One read-through of 'Life" is all the evidence you need to see that the man hasn't matured a lick since the Stones hit it big in 1964.He's a 70-year-old adolescent and I don't find it attractive. The junked-out Keith was cool, as was the Big Four era Keith before that. He was the strong silent type. Almost humble.That guy died a long time ago.It's not cool to run down your band mates in print. It's not cool to play up your role as the creative engine in the Stones when we've learned just in the past few years that he was hardly that at all. It's not cool to rip off tens of thousands of paying customers when he was too f**ked up to play well. I love the man for the great music he made consistently in the golden era, but the guy who wrote 'Life' is too often just a plain old jerk. Some of you will think I'm being too hard on him, but he's been so hard on Mick and Brian (among others) for so long, that he invites a big taste of his own medicine.

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I think the main thing about Keith is that when he became an incorrigible drunk around 1980, he developed (or revealed) a MASSIVE ego. He likes to give Jagger down the road about ego and it's utterly hypocritical of him to call ANYBODY else an egotist. From all the interviews we've seen and read since he crawled into a bottle, he has an ego and a sense of self-importance that DWARFS Jagger's. I disagree about his "maturing." One read-through of 'Life" is all the evidence you need to see that the man hasn't matured a lick since the Stones hit it big in 1964.He's a 70-year-old adolescent and I don't find it attractive. The junked-out Keith was cool, as was the Big Four era Keith before that. He was the strong silent type. Almost humble.That guy died a long time ago.It's not cool to run down your band mates in print. It's not cool to play up your role as the creative engine in the Stones when we've learned just in the past few years that he was hardly that at all. It's not cool to rip off tens of thousands of paying customers when he was too f**ked up to play well. I love the man for the great music he made consistently in the golden era, but the guy who wrote 'Life' is too often just a plain old jerk. Some of you will think I'm being too hard on him, but he's been so hard on Mick and Brian (among others) for so long, that he invites a big taste of his own medicine.

a bit harsh..and also 100% true.keith was always my favorite stone and my favorite guitar player and in alot of ways he still is.
a good portion of the music that i listen to to this day is because of things i learned from keith-raggae,blues,roots rock all stuff that he the real keith,the pre-1980 keith talked about.

i really think the drinking effected him in a really bad way.at some point he was just not the guy i grew up following.

he was always a f#ck-up who pretended the band came first and then of course ruined his relationship with brian over a girl and almost ended the band by bringing an ounce of smack into toronto but that could be put down to youth and recklessness.

the post-1980 keith was just an idiot.his playing changed,his onstage style changed,his interviews changed and none of it for the good.
i wish there was more footage of the late 60's and 70s keith onstage-he had this grace..a sort of sway where he would step back and bend his knees slightly,looking at his guitar-really concentrating.
when he talked he had that same cool-rarely lowering himself to trash-talking other people [let alone other stones]

fast forward to a guy who is onstage doing the splits,stopping playing to pose,flipping picks into the audience.keith would always say he couldnt play lead guitar-"i hold that rhythm down baby" and now he's walking around endlessly playing the same horrible leads,carrying on way too long and by the look on his face you'd think he sounded like jimmy page.

how his antics hurt the mordern day stones the most though was the jagger bashing.he probably ended the jagger/richards songwriting team right there.
in his drunken fantasy view of the world keith seemed to think mick had this"rhino skin" and in keiths mind he had to "keep mick in his place"
you could just see jaggers expression as if he were dealing with one of his children-

even if mick jagger had left the stones forever and began playing the stones catalogue with other players how would bashing him at every turn help put the band back together or help them write great songs again?
and it became like a bizarre obsession,on and on for years,the knighthood,the solo records,his friends,his attitude.at some point if you hate the dude that bad just leave..go back to playing with the winos.
a million times im left wondering "what in the hell are you doing man"-it was like that old beatles rumor that paul had died and they replaced him with someone else,i was starting to think that about keith.

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I have always had the notion that Keith was the one wanting to keep the band together while Mick was looking for opportunities to make it on his own. And that that was the source for the animosity and separation.

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Stoneage
I have always had the notion that Keith was the one wanting to keep the band together while Mick was looking for opportunities to make it on his own. And that that was the source for the animosity and separation.

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I think the main thing about Keith is that when he became an incorrigible drunk around 1980, he developed (or revealed) a MASSIVE ego. He likes to give Jagger down the road about ego and it's utterly hypocritical of him to call ANYBODY else an egotist. From all the interviews we've seen and read since he crawled into a bottle, he has an ego and a sense of self-importance that DWARFS Jagger's. I disagree about his "maturing." One read-through of 'Life" is all the evidence you need to see that the man hasn't matured a lick since the Stones hit it big in 1964.He's a 70-year-old adolescent and I don't find it attractive. The junked-out Keith was cool, as was the Big Four era Keith before that. He was the strong silent type. Almost humble.That guy died a long time ago.It's not cool to run down your band mates in print. It's not cool to play up your role as the creative engine in the Stones when we've learned just in the past few years that he was hardly that at all. It's not cool to rip off tens of thousands of paying customers when he was too f**ked up to play well. I love the man for the great music he made consistently in the golden era, but the guy who wrote 'Life' is too often just a plain old jerk. Some of you will think I'm being too hard on him, but he's been so hard on Mick and Brian (among others) for so long, that he invites a big taste of his own medicine.

a bit harsh..and also 100% true.keith was always my favorite stone and my favorite guitar player and in alot of ways he still is.
a good portion of the music that i listen to to this day is because of things i learned from keith-raggae,blues,roots rock all stuff that he the real keith,the pre-1980 keith talked about.

i really think the drinking effected him in a really bad way.at some point he was just not the guy i grew up following.

he was always a f#ck-up who pretended the band came first and then of course ruined his relationship with brian over a girl and almost ended the band by bringing an ounce of smack into toronto but that could be put down to youth and recklessness.

the post-1980 keith was just an idiot.his playing changed,his onstage style changed,his interviews changed and none of it for the good.
i wish there was more footage of the late 60's and 70s keith onstage-he had this grace..a sort of sway where he would step back and bend his knees slightly,looking at his guitar-really concentrating.
when he talked he had that same cool-rarely lowering himself to trash-talking other people [let alone other stones]

fast forward to a guy who is onstage doing the splits,stopping playing to pose,flipping picks into the audience.keith would always say he couldnt play lead guitar-"i hold that rhythm down baby" and now he's walking around endlessly playing the same horrible leads,carrying on way too long and by the look on his face you'd think he sounded like jimmy page.

how his antics hurt the mordern day stones the most though was the jagger bashing.he probably ended the jagger/richards songwriting team right there.
in his drunken fantasy view of the world keith seemed to think mick had this"rhino skin" and in keiths mind he had to "keep mick in his place"
you could just see jaggers expression as if he were dealing with one of his children-

even if mick jagger had left the stones forever and began playing the stones catalogue with other players how would bashing him at every turn help put the band back together or help them write great songs again?
and it became like a bizarre obsession,on and on for years,the knighthood,the solo records,his friends,his attitude.at some point if you hate the dude that bad just leave..go back to playing with the winos.
a million times im left wondering "what in the hell are you doing man"-it was like that old beatles rumor that paul had died and they replaced him with someone else,i was starting to think that about keith.